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Harry’s litigation

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smilesy · 21/05/2024 14:15

Harry has been mostly denied permission to increase the scope of his case against NGN. The judge has, quite rightly, allowed him to include new allegations of phone tapping and other accusations against private investigators and journalists. What he has not allowed is Harry to extend the timeline to include allegations around Diana or Meghan when she was his girlfriend. The judge also made disparaging remarks about Harry’s lawyers adding more and more detail, and going for “trophy targets”

Is Harry losing sight of what legal action should be for and becoming vexatious?

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DelectableMe · 24/05/2024 07:39

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 24/05/2024 07:25

I’ve often wondered why they are the poster pair for republicans. H&M may have exiled themselves but they are wanting the royalty acknowledge by all and sundry.

The truth is that those who support the republican cause cannot possibly support the activities of this pair. H&M are absolutely upholders of inherited titles, wealth and status.

Serenster · 24/05/2024 08:06

They issued another announcement on the same topic in April 2020, Smilesy.
They sent a letter to the editors of the Sun, Daily Mail, Mirror and Express saying that from now on they would not respond to any inquiries from journalists working for the outlets. Instead there would be a policy of “zero engagement”, except when necessary through lawyers.

Interestingly, though they didn’t feel the need to clarify that they’d changed their mind. The Times reported in December 2023 on the departure of their PR head, Ashley Hansen. The article had some quotes from people about Ashley’s experiences using her time working with the Sussexes, and said that she’d moved to be more collaborative with tabloid journalists- including them on a WhatsApp group to regularly brief them about the couple’s activities, including in particular their Invictus trip to Germany.

I guess they realised that they needed the tabloid press more than they had expected.

smilesy · 24/05/2024 08:11

Serenster · 24/05/2024 08:06

They issued another announcement on the same topic in April 2020, Smilesy.
They sent a letter to the editors of the Sun, Daily Mail, Mirror and Express saying that from now on they would not respond to any inquiries from journalists working for the outlets. Instead there would be a policy of “zero engagement”, except when necessary through lawyers.

Interestingly, though they didn’t feel the need to clarify that they’d changed their mind. The Times reported in December 2023 on the departure of their PR head, Ashley Hansen. The article had some quotes from people about Ashley’s experiences using her time working with the Sussexes, and said that she’d moved to be more collaborative with tabloid journalists- including them on a WhatsApp group to regularly brief them about the couple’s activities, including in particular their Invictus trip to Germany.

I guess they realised that they needed the tabloid press more than they had expected.

Yes I have to say that I didn’t think their original statements had aged well 😆

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MaturingCheeseball · 24/05/2024 09:18

Everything Sageyboots said - and other following posters!

It’s all Harry the Hypocrite. When they did a flit to Canada I wished them well, believing they really did want to live privately. And then came SussexRoyal. Ultimately it’s just about The Divine Right of Harry (and Meghan).

Abouttimeforanamechange · 24/05/2024 16:46

especially since they condemn lies told in the press, but are perfectly happy to ignore lies told about other people in their name on social media.

And haven't been entirely truthful themselves at times. Out of their own mouths, not what someone else said.

milveycrohn · 26/05/2024 15:44

@MrsFinkelstein
"How can he say the protection at the King's Royal residence is inadequate? IMO he wanted Camilla not to be present and wanted to be able to film. And was told No to both."
The speculation is that he was offered St James Palace, which is next door to Clarance House. To see Charles he would literally have to walk across the courtyard. (apparantly).
I think it quite likely he wanted to bring his film crew, and was told 'No'.

MrsFinkelstein · 26/05/2024 18:32

@milveycrohn appears the most likely.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 26/05/2024 18:41

The speculation is that he was offered St James Palace, which is next door to Clarance House

Is St James's still a royal residence where people can actually stay? I was under the impression it's for Household offices and state functions.

DelectableMe · 26/05/2024 19:03

Yes, St James has apartments - Princess Anne has stayed there, also Beatrice and Eugenie.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/05/2024 13:08

Also Princess Alexandra, @DelectableMe - and of course the palace complex includes Clarence House, currently the home of Charles and Camilla

BasiliskStare · 27/05/2024 14:15

Is the RAVEC case closed - I assume H will have to pay his legal bills rather than the taxpayer - is there any news on this ?

smilesy · 27/05/2024 14:48

BasiliskStare · 27/05/2024 14:15

Is the RAVEC case closed - I assume H will have to pay his legal bills rather than the taxpayer - is there any news on this ?

He got refused leave to appeal by the judge so he is taking it to the Court of Appeal. General opinion is that he won’t succeed there either

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Sloejelly · 28/05/2024 09:30

crinkletits · 23/05/2024 10:50

100% .. times running out of Murdock too. Vile creature.

Murdoch is 93 so yes time is running out. I also believe he doesn’t live in the UK. Both reasons why Harry would be unlikely to ever get him in the witness box.

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/05/2024 12:32

smilesy · 27/05/2024 14:48

He got refused leave to appeal by the judge so he is taking it to the Court of Appeal. General opinion is that he won’t succeed there either

His barrister is doing him no favours at all with all these cases and appeals. I bet he can't believe his luck with this golden goose of a client.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 28/05/2024 12:46

Sloejelly · 28/05/2024 09:30

Murdoch is 93 so yes time is running out. I also believe he doesn’t live in the UK. Both reasons why Harry would be unlikely to ever get him in the witness box.

Harry does seem the sort of client who will swallow anything he's told if it means his epic sense of grievance and being hard done by is indulged.

IcedPurple · 28/05/2024 13:07

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/05/2024 12:32

His barrister is doing him no favours at all with all these cases and appeals. I bet he can't believe his luck with this golden goose of a client.

That's Harry's life now.

In the past he had the much derided 'grey men' to warn him off opportunistic attention seekers like David Sherborne. I really don't think Harry is capable of functioning in the real world, not even a highly privileged version of the real world.

MrsLeonFarrell · 28/05/2024 13:08

IcedPurple · 28/05/2024 13:07

That's Harry's life now.

In the past he had the much derided 'grey men' to warn him off opportunistic attention seekers like David Sherborne. I really don't think Harry is capable of functioning in the real world, not even a highly privileged version of the real world.

I'm fairly impressed with the grey men in suits, if nothing else Harry's life shows how much they actually do to protect their principals.

CathyorClaire · 06/06/2024 20:10

Oh goody. Harold's won the right to appeal against the rejection of his bid for publicly funded police security in the UK:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ap-british-court-of-appeal-meghan-high-court-b2558262.html

More public money down the drain defending it 😡

smilesy · 06/06/2024 21:06

I’m confused by what the appeal court judge said. He said that he thought “not without hesitation”, that Harry had grounds for appeal. Does that mean he’s not sure about it?

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CathyorClaire · 06/06/2024 21:13

No idea, TBH.

Just exhausted by the never-ending establishment enabling of this clown 😡

MrsLeonFarrell · 06/06/2024 21:14

CathyorClaire · 06/06/2024 20:10

Oh goody. Harold's won the right to appeal against the rejection of his bid for publicly funded police security in the UK:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ap-british-court-of-appeal-meghan-high-court-b2558262.html

More public money down the drain defending it 😡

So frustrating. Even if he wins all they have to do is review, not change, his security. I can't see him being at more risk now than he was when they left.

BasiliskStare · 06/06/2024 21:21

I m not sure if "vexatious " is the right word but I do think Harry is pursuing this way too far.

smilesy · 06/06/2024 21:31

BasiliskStare · 06/06/2024 21:21

I m not sure if "vexatious " is the right word but I do think Harry is pursuing this way too far.

I think it’s getting close to that if you factor in all the other litigation he is involved in at the moment

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IcedPurple · 06/06/2024 21:36

MrsLeonFarrell · 06/06/2024 21:14

So frustrating. Even if he wins all they have to do is review, not change, his security. I can't see him being at more risk now than he was when they left.

Even if he is more at risk now, which I also doubt, there would be no need to change his security arrangements. As things stand, his security needs are kept until continual review and, provided he gives the required notice, any necessary security will be offered. That has always been the case.

Harry is not resident in Britain and holds no official role. I really can't see how he would qualify as someone who will automatically be provided with security. Simply being the monarch's son isn't sufficient. This is going to be another waste of time, money and effort. I wouldn't care if it was just at Harry's expense, but the taxpayer is going to end up paying at least some of the cost, whatever the outcome.