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Harry’s litigation

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smilesy · 21/05/2024 14:15

Harry has been mostly denied permission to increase the scope of his case against NGN. The judge has, quite rightly, allowed him to include new allegations of phone tapping and other accusations against private investigators and journalists. What he has not allowed is Harry to extend the timeline to include allegations around Diana or Meghan when she was his girlfriend. The judge also made disparaging remarks about Harry’s lawyers adding more and more detail, and going for “trophy targets”

Is Harry losing sight of what legal action should be for and becoming vexatious?

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Sloejelly · 07/06/2024 14:38

BlueParrotRedParrot · 07/06/2024 13:20

@JawJaw It has had some coverage over here. In a nutshell: The Heritage Foundation have issued Freedom of Information requests to the US State Department to find out how Harry has a visa to remain in the US when he is a confessed drug user. Harry is not directly involved in the case. Harry's visa status is unclear - whether he is on some sort of enhanced diplomatic/head of state visa - which he will have violated by working and earning money, no to mention getting involved in US political matters; or a more ordinary citizen visa, in which case ordinary people with a history of drug use don't usually get one, and then there's green card issues with him working.

The US's defense to the FOI request was initially that Spare was an unreliable/exaggerated account and therefore was not proof that Harry is a drug taker. This didn't wash with the judge who demanded that the paperwork be released to him. Then the US said they couldn't find the paperwork. Now they are saying there are potentially "stigmatising" information about criminal activity in the documents. This case goes away if Harry gets IPP status. Someone let slip on, I think, GB News yesterday, that Harry has a Head of State visa.

The case won’t go away if Harry has IPP status because it isn’t really about Harry. Harry was a serendipitous chance for the Heritage Foundation to pursue a subject they were keenly interested in - political interference in immigration matters. If Harry had an IPP status the Heritage Foundation would probably want to know why and how that status can be used get around immigration law when someone can chose to apply it to someone five steps away from head of state.

LaMarschallin · 07/06/2024 14:39

BemusedAmerican

This article is worth reading for both the nuanced response of the Taliban and the comments of the British officers. It also quotes Harry talking about the truthfullness of Spare.

All I wanted to do was to prove to other people that I had a certain set of skills," he said.

Cor! Just like Liam Neeson in "Taken".

AnnieSF · 07/06/2024 14:42

😂😂😂

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/06/2024 15:49

Serenster · 07/06/2024 13:29

I could always say precisely how many enemy combatants I’d killed. And I felt it vital never to shy away from that number…
So, my number. Twenty-five. It wasn’t a number that gave me any satisfaction. But neither was it a number that made me feel ashamed”.

Prince Harry, in Spare.

You saved me typing it Serenster

I never quite understand why people post nonsense like this; either they've not read the book so can't possibly know, or they have and they're lying - presumably in the hope that if they say it often enough others might be convinced

As with H&M's many lies there really doesn't seem much point when such things are so easily checked, but it doesn't appear to stop them

LeilaLettuce · 07/06/2024 15:54

BemusedAmerican · 07/06/2024 14:32

He could buy a nice brownstone cheaper than in Cali ($5 million or so) and use mass transit. No one would recognize him. Shorter commute.

They could move to New York and live relatively quietly. It's full of famous people who just go about their normal business.

BasiliskStare · 07/06/2024 18:31

Ach I just think Harry is coming over as entitled ( well he is literally titled ) but in the sense he thinks that because he is the Kings son he is owed full time Royal protection which as I believe other members of the RF are not given unless they are on working RF business . Which he and his wife voluntarily gave up . I hope RAVEC uphold that his protection will be on a case by case basis. If he chooses to come and see his family I bet a shilling to pound of oranges that KC will give him somewhere safe to stay with his family

smilesy · 07/06/2024 18:42

BasiliskStare · 07/06/2024 18:31

Ach I just think Harry is coming over as entitled ( well he is literally titled ) but in the sense he thinks that because he is the Kings son he is owed full time Royal protection which as I believe other members of the RF are not given unless they are on working RF business . Which he and his wife voluntarily gave up . I hope RAVEC uphold that his protection will be on a case by case basis. If he chooses to come and see his family I bet a shilling to pound of oranges that KC will give him somewhere safe to stay with his family

But when he came over for the Invictus service, he was offered to stay in a royal palace and apparently it wasn’t safe enough for him, so he stayed in a hotel 🤷‍♀️

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 07/06/2024 18:48

But when he came over for the Invictus service, he was offered to stay in a royal palace and apparently it wasn’t safe enough for him, so he stayed in a hotel 🤷‍♀️

Pretty much destroying his argument there, isn't he? royal palaces aren't safe for his preciousness but hotels are.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 07/06/2024 18:59

Well safe enough for the king and queen and Prince of Wales but not for the spare 🙄🙄

smilesy · 27/06/2024 14:43

Oh dear. NGN are getting nasty now. Sorry I know it’s behind a paywall like I’ve said before , I always fail at archiving. Can anyone else Archive this?

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smilesy · 27/06/2024 14:45

Here’s a screen shot to be going on with

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Vespanest · 27/06/2024 14:57

I’m not a fan of Harry at all, but despise the Sun, it was always going to be messy. Both sides participating in a fishing exercise. Harry tried by getting Murdoch and Meghan included and got refused and now it’s the Suns turn to try and expand

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/06/2024 15:44

The plot thickens, though I wouldn't exactly call this NGN "getting nasty", @smilesy

Given what's being alleged it seems only natural for them to request the receipts, though I don't ignore the possibility they're chucking mud in an attempt to discredit him - as if he needs any help

smilesy · 27/06/2024 16:09

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/06/2024 15:44

The plot thickens, though I wouldn't exactly call this NGN "getting nasty", @smilesy

Given what's being alleged it seems only natural for them to request the receipts, though I don't ignore the possibility they're chucking mud in an attempt to discredit him - as if he needs any help

Well relatively nasty 😆. They’ve accused him of lying about having access to the hard drives. Who knows 🤷‍♀️😂

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CathyorClaire · 27/06/2024 16:23

Wow.

Here for the drama 😁 but...who found these hard drives and why were they looking?

Will he have to hand back the wad he trousered?

BemusedAmerican · 27/06/2024 16:49

@CathyorClaire I was wondering the exact same things.

jeffgoldblum · 27/06/2024 16:50

Hope this works @smilesy

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smilesy · 27/06/2024 17:19

jeffgoldblum · 27/06/2024 16:50

Hope this works @smilesy

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It does indeed 😃

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StormzyinaTCup · 27/06/2024 17:23

Oh, that’s an interesting development @smilesy

Veritysays897 · 27/06/2024 17:30

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 07/06/2024 06:49

I think Harry is floundering tbh. He didn’t understand his role as the spare and married someone who didn’t get it either. No reason why she should tbh as Meghan isn’t British. But she’s not supporting him adequately in coming to terms with his changed role. And for that she’s failed him massively.

Sorry but this is ridiculously speculative - how do you know how much support she has or hasn't given him - and anyway since when is it a wife's job to help her husband with career adjustments? As a member of the elite classes and a former army captain Harry will already have lots of experience travelling and living abroad and staying in different countries.

We hardly hear from Meghan nowadays in the UK but honestly the threads on here keep inventing new reasons to hate her! Just like the tabloids! All she has done is married a prince and decided that the person she was required to be in that role would compromise the way she wants to live her life to an unacceptable extent. And you know what, she is allowed to do that.

And she has explained why publically. And that's not the crime of the century either. She's not a serial killer! If they hadn't gone public then the speculation would probably have been worse than the reality. And every tabloid would have been printing article after article on "what caused the rift?" And they would have come up with even worse scenarios than the truth.

Veritysays897 · 27/06/2024 17:34

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 07/06/2024 18:48

But when he came over for the Invictus service, he was offered to stay in a royal palace and apparently it wasn’t safe enough for him, so he stayed in a hotel 🤷‍♀️

Pretty much destroying his argument there, isn't he? royal palaces aren't safe for his preciousness but hotels are.

I remember one of their security team who seemed a no-nonsense sort of bloke detailing the very nasty death threats they received towards Meghan and their DC on one of the documentaries about them. Tbh if there were nasty comments constantly being made about me or my spouse on websites such as this, and tabloid articles whipping up hatred, and my mother had died being chased by paps, I would be worried about security too!

All the people posting nasty comment after nasty comment on here about H & M; can't you see that you are part of the problem? You don't have to like them, or like what they have done, but they are parents of young DC and as such it would seem sensible and reasonable to desist from endless criticism. All of the negative comments on sm potentially build up enough steam to incite some nutter or another to actually attack. We've seen it before with Jo Cox.

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 27/06/2024 17:53

It’s all speculation isn’t it? I suspect she’s not been supportive. But that’s my opinion and you are entitled to yours. But imo Isn’t it a partner’s role to support their other half?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/06/2024 18:38

anyway since when is it a wife's job to help her husband with career adjustments

Normal healthy relationships do support each other in times of change, how odd to think otherwise.

Veritysays897 · 27/06/2024 18:50

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/06/2024 18:38

anyway since when is it a wife's job to help her husband with career adjustments

Normal healthy relationships do support each other in times of change, how odd to think otherwise.

Groan, I'll bite, against my better judgement.

I hate the back and forth but I was responding to a poster who said specifically "But she’s not supporting him adequately in coming to terms with his changed role."

It just seemed like yet another gratuitous reason to criticise Meghan!

I was querying what that support might look like as I have never ever had to support my dh with any career changes he's made. Not once. And he's had a long career.

So enough of the disingenuousness"how odd" comments please! It's perfectly obvious I wasn't talking about marital support in general. I've been happily married for over three decades so I know what that looks like thanks very much.

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