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Do you know anything else about Thomas Markle's heritage?

Yes I agree.

In the silly letter she said something about her Nigerian 'heritage' 'extending to her children'. Which is fine I guess. But her children are among the very few people who can trace back one side of their lineage for centuries. Yet she has no interest whatsoever in that. I agree that it's because it wouldn't be about her.

I also think it's bizarre how she's going on about her Nigerian 'heritage' and 'going home' to Nigeria, when she never displayed any interest in her British heritage, despite living there and representing the country internationally. Not that I think she has any real interest in Nigeria or Nigerian culture either, of course.

Her children are direct descendants of King George III, which I always think is amusing as they're American citizens!

But her children are among the very few people who can trace back one side of their lineage for centuries.

Some of the Anglo Saxon royal genealogies trace their lineage back to Woden. I doubt H knows that he's descended from a pagan god, but I wonder what M would come up with to beat that.

'The TRUTH is that Harry and Meghan would have been a major asset to the Royal Family if it were not for the petty jealousies exhibited by other senior members of the royal family'

A different Harry and Meghan might have been huge assets to Royal Family, but we don’t have imaginary ones who are supportive team players. The Meghan an Harry that we do have have shown us who they are: petty, argumentative, jealous attention seekers.

If someone is going to chafe against the necessary supporting role that they are in, and actively looks to take on a bigger role and undermine those ahead of them in the hierarchy, they are a liability, not an asset. Which Meghan and Harry have kind of proved, I think, in that way they seem to have few allies now.

I don’t think anyone deep down believes Harry and Megan could ever have been an asset to thr royals. They don’t have it in them to serve, it was never going to happen, they would never ever have been assets.

and I doubt anyone seriously would beleive any senior royal was envious of them, it’s very clearly been demonstrated it was the other way round.

Just wondering if anyone has a share token for this article in today’s DM?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-13483947/BRENDAN-ONEILL-Barbaric-inhumane-internet-trolling-Kate-betrays-moral-rot-society-rooted-out.html

They were never an "asset" to the royal family. No-one is jealous of them. That's what you'd call grasping at straws!

They weren't around long enough to demonstrate that they'd be an asset. It's like taking a job and resigning before you've finished probation - you might have been an asset, you might not, but you didn't stick around long enough to develop in the role so we'll never know.

I did some idle research at the time of their falling out. I seem to remember that his parents were from Germany or their parents were.

Here’s a quick snapshot .

Beautifully put as ever MrsD

I didn't know Thomas Markle was of German heritage though ... I learn something new on here every day

It can be argued that the Nigeria visit was successful for Meghan (not by me) in that the attention was on her, not sure it can be argued it was as successful for Invictus or Harry. For Harry and Meghan to have been successful in the Royal family it has to be as representative of the monarch, which I don’t think was ever in the itinerary even when they were in the royal family together.

Harry is reportedly upset that the Royal Family haven’t recognised their ‘success’ in Nigeria. The guy is completely delusional.

I also thought that Harry looked really bloody miserable for most of the time. Maybe realising that he’s just a support act now.

This exactly, someone who could be an asset doesn’t blow up and go scorched earth telling tales when they don’t get their way.

It seems like people using the asset argument think looking pretty and smiling at people is all that is required. Meghan awkwardly pulled out mid appearance at the market and also went complaining to Tom Bradby. That’s indication enough that she was not asset material.

Someone tell him it wasn't a Royal tour in words of one syllable, please....also that they left the RF to do their own thing, but not all at the same time because it doesn't sound like his brain could take anything as complex as having two things explained to him together.

What.a.muppet.

I agree

My family on both sides has only been in the US since the 1890's and 1910's. I've been back twice to my ancestral country. While I loved the history, culture and food, it made me very aware of how American I am.

I've also been to the UK, and plan to return for my next big vacation, but even though we share the same language, once again our cultures are very different.

I think that If M spent some time as a normal, non-celebrity in Nigeria, she would have a very enlightening experience. Especially since she is from California. I know I am biased, but in my experience, we New Yorkers are tougher than people from the West Coast.

I also thought that Harry looked really bloody miserable for most of the time. Maybe realising that he’s just a support act now

Perhaps the realisation that 'out means out' and no, after what you've said about them, your family aren't going to rush to see you just because you're in the country is slowly seeping in.

Is there any 'celeb' couple so wholly devoid of self-awareness and thinking things through as this one?

I also thought that Harry looked really bloody miserable for most of the time.

I think Harry has looked bloody miserable most of the time since they left the UK.

Where does the Maltese ancestry play out, Mother or father.

It seems like people using the asset argument think looking pretty and smiling at people is all that is required. Meghan awkwardly pulled out mid appearance at the market and also went complaining to Tom Bradby. That’s indication enough that she was not asset material.

They had staff troubles too - leaving aside the bullying allegations, Harry wrote in Spare about their stressed and unhappy office culture, and their Private Secretary recently spoke about how she had to stay in role longer than she had wanted to because they couldn’t find someone to take on her position - and then person they did appoint left mid-way through the South Africa tour.

That’s not indicative of an asset - it’s indicative of a problem.

Honestly she must feel like telling him to STFU

Where does the Maltese ancestry play out, Mother or father.

I don't think she has any actual Maltese ancestry. I think (accordig to Tom Bower) it was a soldier in the British Army who was stationed there, or passing through.