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Nigeria 4!

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OneHeartySnail · 19/05/2024 14:05

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DelectableMe · 19/05/2024 18:02

No-one has ever tried to take away security from Harry, or Meghan as long as they were in the UK and it was very wrong of them to suggest that, especially with regard to Archie.

smilesy · 19/05/2024 18:03

Noseyoldcow · 19/05/2024 17:57

Had Diana kept her Met security, would she be alive today? Very possibly, and I can't blame Harry for wanting to keep his Met security.

With regard to dirt in Meghan's past, I find it hard to believe whatever there may be hasn't been dug up by now. Ditto the rest of her family.

Yes but it was Diana’s decision not to keep her Met security so it’s a moot point. Met security should have prevented her from
making the poor decisions that led to the accident, but it wouldn’t have directly saved her. Harry will be fine as long as he doesn’t do a similar sort of thing. If he’s worried about security, one assumes he won’t 🤷‍♀️

LumiB · 19/05/2024 18:06

MummyJ12 · 19/05/2024 17:08

I agree with you on this.

Ironically there’s another “please only post positively thread about Meghan.” On it celebrating her feminist achievements and saying that people relentlessly try to bring her down. These same posters turn a blind eye when it comes to Catherine. It’s so ironic and the double standards are shocking. Although 4 pages in 4 days says a lot.

Thanks for the new thread 😊

Hiw do you known they are turning a blind eye, just because they don't start a thread about Catherine? Don't forget plenty of have been demandinf people stop talking about Catherine on her put of respect for what she is going through. So how are double standards shocking when noone is starting threads about Catherine dragging her down? I haven't seen any in the past few weeks have you?

MummyJ12 · 19/05/2024 18:18

Have seen plenty in the past few months for a lifetime

MummyJ12 · 19/05/2024 18:20

It’s disgraceful. But of course, only Meghan is hounded and bullied….
It’s starting up again on social media. As you’re obviously watching these threads, you’ll know. Where were you defending her when the Sussex Squad came on with their vile remarks just the other day @LumiB?

ShamedBySiri · 19/05/2024 18:29

Yes but it was Diana’s decision not to keep her Met security so it’s a moot point. Met security should have prevented her from* making the poor decisions that led to the accident, but it wouldn’t have directly saved her.*

From a hypothetical point of view had she kept her Met security I wonder how that summer would have panned out. Would they have accompanied her on the yacht holidays? And when Dodi persuaded her to change her plan to fly home and have one more night stopping in Paris along the way, with Mohammed Al Fayed organising drivers and security from the UK how would that work? And then having finally wound up at the hotel wouldn't the Met security try to pull rank on plans about decoy drivers and so on. An interesting conflict of superiority and responsibility would have arisen for sure.

LumiB · 19/05/2024 19:06

MummyJ12 · 19/05/2024 18:20

It’s disgraceful. But of course, only Meghan is hounded and bullied….
It’s starting up again on social media. As you’re obviously watching these threads, you’ll know. Where were you defending her when the Sussex Squad came on with their vile remarks just the other day @LumiB?

Abroad and busy sightseeing I'm don't come on here every day...is that okay?

MummyJ12 · 19/05/2024 19:08

Absolutely fine @LumiB but then please don’t comment when you’re obviously not informed as to what has been going on.
Hope you had a lovely time!

CremeFresh · 19/05/2024 20:33

I'm almost starting to feel sorry for H , his face doesn't depict that of a happy man https://x.com/nreclining/status/1792230175993659626?s=46&t=zeqvo7Iw1m8V4kXAX7nn1A

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https://x.com/nreclining/status/1792230175993659626?s=46&t=zeqvo7Iw1m8V4kXAX7nn1A

Gorgonemilezola · 19/05/2024 20:44

CremeFresh · 19/05/2024 20:33

I'm almost starting to feel sorry for H , his face doesn't depict that of a happy man https://x.com/nreclining/status/1792230175993659626?s=46&t=zeqvo7Iw1m8V4kXAX7nn1A

I don't think he ever really enjoyed the public aspect of being a member of the rf. Sadly, he's now having to do more public facing stuff, without the brains who research the visits, plan for the pitfalls, put him front and centre. He's fading into the background.

CathyorClaire · 19/05/2024 20:53

It will be interesting to watch if it becomes available in the UK.

Unlikely IMO.

The French Enyoye doc exposing intriguing details on Archewell has never been shown here and the UK press references to the findings seem to have disappeared.

Curious.

LumiB · 19/05/2024 21:29

MummyJ12 · 19/05/2024 19:08

Absolutely fine @LumiB but then please don’t comment when you’re obviously not informed as to what has been going on.
Hope you had a lovely time!

Edited

Don't think anyone should be telling anyone ona public forum they can't make a comment. Just because I wasn't around to make a comment whenever that Sussex squad situation happened doesn't mean I have no right to comment

Crazy

JADS · 19/05/2024 21:39

CathyorClaire · 19/05/2024 20:53

It will be interesting to watch if it becomes available in the UK.

Unlikely IMO.

The French Enyoye doc exposing intriguing details on Archewell has never been shown here and the UK press references to the findings seem to have disappeared.

Curious.

Is this available on YouTube? I haven't heard of that.

MummyJ12 · 19/05/2024 21:47

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

StartupRepair · 19/05/2024 21:50

Al fayed's systems and security were completely out of their depth when faced with Diana and the paparazzi. Their normal job was to follow Dodi around night clubs where no-one knew who he was. I think that's why Muhammad was so quick to blame the royal family for the deaths. Diana was in his care. It was the fault of his driver and security but he could not bear that to be said.

MrsLeonFarrell · 19/05/2024 21:52

I don't think at this point any royal scandals have been covered up effectively. Maybe some historical ones but not recent stuff.

The longer their marriage lasts the more sympathy I have for Meghan. I don't think Harry is the prize he seemed when the grey men were in charge of his PR. He doesn't seem to enjoy most of his life and I'm not sure how supportive she is about the constant court cases. Her way seems to be to keep moving forward and not look back which is probably more effective long term whereas he seems a bit stuck in the past.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 19/05/2024 22:02

StartupRepair · 19/05/2024 21:50

Al fayed's systems and security were completely out of their depth when faced with Diana and the paparazzi. Their normal job was to follow Dodi around night clubs where no-one knew who he was. I think that's why Muhammad was so quick to blame the royal family for the deaths. Diana was in his care. It was the fault of his driver and security but he could not bear that to be said.

I have always thought that Fayed's accusations that the RF killed Diana is a very interesting demonstration of someone being totally mentally unable to accept their culpability for a situation and flailing around finding someone - anyone - to blame rather than admit he had any part in it. Whatever it's called - projection, is that it? - it's so obvious that that is what he was doing.

LumiB · 19/05/2024 23:30

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Abouttimeforanamechange · 19/05/2024 23:39

prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-defend-nigerian-fugitive-controversy
Be sure to read the very detailed comments.

The comments make the threads here on MN look positively benign! Have never seen the word 'grifters' used so many times.

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 19/05/2024 23:44

LumiB · 19/05/2024 21:29

Don't think anyone should be telling anyone ona public forum they can't make a comment. Just because I wasn't around to make a comment whenever that Sussex squad situation happened doesn't mean I have no right to comment

Crazy

Hi Lumi, I’ve found on here, that if you are not on these sorts of particular threads badmouthing and gossiping about Meghan (and Harry for that matter) and casting all sorts of questionsvover anything they undertake, you are assumed to be a Catherine hater or ‘Sussex Squad-er.’ And you will be treated as such.

Posters who want to have a positive thread about Meghan are seen, by default, as being members of the ‘Sussex squad’’ and/or a Catherine hater.

It’s become conspiracy theory territory on here , just like it was from end of January until the end of March - when mumsnet RF forums was inundated by people with conspiracy theories about Catherine, William and the other RF members. This time, according to at least two posters some of the mods may be Sussex squad members also.

I saw the very recent resurgence of rumours around Catherine, (traceable back to a media article about another woman - rinse and repeat) but up until this point the recycled rumours and gossip have only been mentioned in the Nigeria threads on MN Royal Forums, by posters who are critical of Meghan and Harry. There’s plenty of it on sm elsewhere, but the only posters who have brought it here this time are the Meghan and Harry detractors.

peanutbuttertoasty · 20/05/2024 00:07

Thx for thread

AutumnCrow · 20/05/2024 03:59

BemusedAmerican · 19/05/2024 22:49

Thank you for the link about the Nigeria trip.

I hope this thread is able to stay focused on the Nigeria trip and the Nigeria connections, and the news reports circulating about them and the articles resulting from them, i.e. not become derailed. As far as I can see, there are newsworthy matters of public interest here.

I shall read the piece linked with interest.

FloofyBear · 20/05/2024 05:14

DelectableMe · 19/05/2024 16:08

There's one thing that puzzles me: why is Meghan referred to as a "leader"? What has she lead?
I keep seeing this claim and of course she shares panels with women who have achieved and are leaders. I just think it's a very strange claim for her, with no substance.

I absolutely agree! She's done nothing to stand shoulder to shoulder with achievers!

Thedom · 20/05/2024 05:17

Thank you BemusedAmerican for the link, the comments are pretty astute , plenty of comments about the stupidity of turning over their security and travel arrangements to a country that has a level 3 security risk and a reputation for corruption..

This comment made me laugh, "218 million people in Nigeria and the Grifters end up hanging out with a corrupt money-launderer wanted in the US."

I wouldn't be surprised at all if many hands were greased along the way for a front row seat at their events.