Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Montecito Moments Edition

1000 replies

skullbabe · 15/05/2024 14:36

Part 6 of positive threads, delving into all things Meghan and Harry. Whether it’s the causes they support, their business initiatives, or Meghan’s fashion choices (Harry’s too, on occasion 😉), there’s plenty to discuss Just a pro-tip - that there may be use of MLE terms and discussions of dupes - you might want to exit stage left if these things offend. This is a relatively drama free zone - let’s keep things light! Clinking a glass of lemonade 🥂 to @queentim for the original inspiration.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
174
Tizzwazz · 01/06/2024 17:30

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 01/06/2024 14:04

How much freedom exists in the UK regarding the imposition of a monarchy on all of its people? I do wonder…

The royal family is and has been criticised and lampooned pretty freely in the media over decades (and even before that if you look at the cartoons of Gillray). And given that the monarchy has been around for about 1,500 years with minor upheavals and removals of kings when the monarch did something the people really didn't like, and that when they had the chance for a republic the people of Britain said 'Nah, we'll have a king back, thanks,' I'm not at all sure that 'imposition' is the word you want.

In any case, going by the late queen's statement that 'if they want us to go we'll go quietly,' the RF is very well aware of the need for public approval and support. So I'm not seeing any 'imposition.'

Somehow, keeping the Monarchy going based on a decision made in the mid 1600s is not something I feel obliged to accept in this day and age.

The Republican movement is growing:

“When I started doing this, people used to say: ‘I agree with what you’re doing, but I don’t think the end of the monarchy will happen in my lifetime,’” says Smith. “Nowadays, people don’t say that. The monarchy no longer looks solid – it looks vulnerable. The spell has been broken.””

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/28/the-monarchy-looks-vulnerable-will-britains-republicans-bring-down-the-king

I certainly despise the fact that it keeps ‘royal experts’ afloat:

https://www.geo.tv/latest/546145-prince-william-hates-prince-harrys-popularity

Mostly, our weird monarchy creates a hugely disfunctional ecosystem for the children of the Monarch and their children in turn. To have one sibling heralded over other siblings is just plain daft. Harry, a prince of the blood, continues to thrive, thank goodness, despite the obvious bullying from his older brother who is set to inherit it all.

The monarchy faces a different generation now:

“There is a consistent trend that younger people are less likely than older people to say it is ‘very important’ that Britain has a monarchy. Twelve percent of 18–34-year-olds view the monarchy as ‘very important’ compared to 42% of the 55+ age group”

“In every year that data was collected on the British Social Attitudes survey between 1983-2023, a majority of the public have consistently said it is important for Britain to continue to have a monarchy. However, those who deem the monarchy to be very important has dropped to its lowest point of 29%.”

Certainly, a significant and healthy minority now feel it is not very important or should be abolished as:

“15% said it was ‘not very important’ and 20% said it was ‘not at all important / abolish’.”

https://natcen.ac.uk/news/public-support-monarchy-falls-record-low

No doubt the ‘working royals’ will do what they need to in order to face the challenges ahead.

“The majority of the public still support the royal family, and whilst support tends to be more amongst those aged 55 and over, the challenge going forward will be for the monarchy to deliver its relevance and appeal to a younger generation to maintain this support.”

https://natcen.ac.uk/news/public-support-monarchy-falls-record-low

The imposition is that we can’t have a vote about it. I do not know whether a referendum would ever come to pass.

Go quietly is not a perspective that I share. Harry would not have been given such an appalling time of it by his father and brother if that were in any way true.

‘The monarchy looks vulnerable’: will Britain’s republicans bring down the king?

Every day, we learn more about the royals’ colonial legacy and financial privileges – and it has given a huge boost to the republican movement

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/28/the-monarchy-looks-vulnerable-will-britains-republicans-bring-down-the-king

smilesy · 01/06/2024 17:39

Go quietly is not a perspective that I share. Harry would not have been given such an appalling time of it by his father and brother if that were in any way true.

What has Harry’s behaviour towards his family got to do with the monarchy “going” or not? I think they are both much more offended by Harry’s attitude towards their wives than any perceived “threat” he bears to the monarchy

AnnieSF · 01/06/2024 17:44

Tizzwazz · 01/06/2024 16:36

Lovely couple.

Couple of what?

IcedPurple · 01/06/2024 17:50

AnnieSF · 01/06/2024 17:44

Couple of what?

Why is there a photo of the model?

"There were 3 of us in that couple"?

AnnieSF · 01/06/2024 17:51

We all know it is about Meghan being the centre of attention. She obviously doesn't feel confident unless she is in the limelight . She chooses to do that by clothes and her immature giggly little mannerisms and her launching herself at men who may not want physical interaction with a woman. It's awkward to look at and any competent person would realise that especially in an international environment. She is stuck in the old Hollywood " sex sells" scenario.

Tizzwazz · 01/06/2024 18:00

smilesy · 01/06/2024 17:39

Go quietly is not a perspective that I share. Harry would not have been given such an appalling time of it by his father and brother if that were in any way true.

What has Harry’s behaviour towards his family got to do with the monarchy “going” or not? I think they are both much more offended by Harry’s attitude towards their wives than any perceived “threat” he bears to the monarchy

Harry wanted to lead a more independent life with his wife. Yet he was still very much for a monarchy which he still wanted to support. He described the events quite clearly that led to the Sandringham Summit and also events post that summit. Two potential kings, (Chuck’s Mummy was still alive) with zero empathy and no understanding of the unique circumstances regarding Harry and his family. It was never about Harry’s behaviour. It was about him not having the nurturing support of his family.

William’s temper tantrums go back a long way. Perhaps, he is that little child still who sees Harry as having all the fun. Not that I agreed with Diana’s parenting strategy of using Harry as a ‘threat’ (having all the fun) to William who was not listening to his mum (captured on film).

Tizzwazz · 01/06/2024 18:15

IcedPurple · 01/06/2024 17:50

Why is there a photo of the model?

"There were 3 of us in that couple"?

There was only one photograph featuring the couple. Therefore, it stands to reason that the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that the comment refers to the photograph of the couple. Once again, a lovely couple. 🩷

The model photo:

It shows the back of the dress, for those who insisted there was no back to the dress…

…I believe the dress sold out. Although there may be another reason why it cannot be bought now as there are none left.

Tizzwazz · 01/06/2024 18:26

AnnieSF · 01/06/2024 17:51

We all know it is about Meghan being the centre of attention. She obviously doesn't feel confident unless she is in the limelight . She chooses to do that by clothes and her immature giggly little mannerisms and her launching herself at men who may not want physical interaction with a woman. It's awkward to look at and any competent person would realise that especially in an international environment. She is stuck in the old Hollywood " sex sells" scenario.

What a load of twaddle!

Gorgonemilezola · 01/06/2024 18:38

'Harry would not have been given such an appalling time of it by his father and brother if that were in any way true.'

Nope - Harry, as usual, wanted everything his way. When he was told it wouldn't work he had a strop.

Harry has been appalling to his family, in word and deed.

smilesy · 01/06/2024 19:47

Tizzwazz · 01/06/2024 18:15

There was only one photograph featuring the couple. Therefore, it stands to reason that the only logical conclusion to be drawn is that the comment refers to the photograph of the couple. Once again, a lovely couple. 🩷

The model photo:

It shows the back of the dress, for those who insisted there was no back to the dress…

…I believe the dress sold out. Although there may be another reason why it cannot be bought now as there are none left.

We have already established that there was a back in the dress, but it doesn’t really cover much and in the photo where she turns away from the lady she is talking to to find the camera, she definitely shows some side boob. I didn’t have a problem with the style of the dress. It would be great for an evening function or a ball or something, but is totally unsuited for visiting a school. For one thing, it’s so long it’s a trip hazard

Serenster · 01/06/2024 20:00

…I believe the dress sold out. Although there may be another reason why it cannot be bought now as there are none left.

The dress in that blush colourway was from a past season and no longer available when Meghan wore it. So there were none available to sell out.

The designer however started taking pre-orders for the blush colour the day Meghan wore it - so clearly was prepared for the interest (suggesting that Meghan and the designer are working together. Given that Meghan has worn three dresses by that designer in quick succession, it seems likely they have a commercial deal going on).

AnnieSF · 02/06/2024 00:59

@Tizzwazz may the heavens shower jam down on you !

Tizzwazz · 02/06/2024 01:16

AnnieSF · 02/06/2024 00:59

@Tizzwazz may the heavens shower jam down on you !

😂☔️

Tizzwazz · 02/06/2024 01:33

smilesy · 01/06/2024 19:47

We have already established that there was a back in the dress, but it doesn’t really cover much and in the photo where she turns away from the lady she is talking to to find the camera, she definitely shows some side boob. I didn’t have a problem with the style of the dress. It would be great for an evening function or a ball or something, but is totally unsuited for visiting a school. For one thing, it’s so long it’s a trip hazard

Side boob? Sure that is not wishful thinking…

Tizzwazz · 02/06/2024 02:00

BemusedAmerican · 01/06/2024 13:48

I was actually thinking that H & M were invited by the head of the military so regardless of true feelings, the school is going to follow the party line, so to speak.

Nah. They all looked happy enough. Harry and Meghan related well with the kids and teachers.

BemusedAmerican · 02/06/2024 04:38

Tizzwazz · 02/06/2024 01:43

So the summer of us being hit over the head with positive press begins. May God have mercy on our souls.

smilesy · 02/06/2024 09:09

Tizzwazz · 02/06/2024 01:33

Side boob? Sure that is not wishful thinking…

Eh?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/06/2024 09:31

Somehow, keeping the Monarchy going based on a decision made in the mid 1600s is not something I feel obliged to accept in this day and age.

It's not all about what you want.

IsoldeWagner · 02/06/2024 18:27

Please enlighten me - because I'd really like to know: if a person is a republican, against having a monarchy and a royal family.....why on earth support Harry and Meghan?
They are as royal as they come! Carrying on with the titles, status and privilege, choosing to call their children Prince and Princess, having a crown above the monogrammed M on Meghan's personalised notepaper...it goes on.
If you don't want a monarchy, I have no idea why you'd support arrogant very royal chancers like Harry and Meghan.

Tizzwazz · 03/06/2024 01:43

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 02/06/2024 09:31

Somehow, keeping the Monarchy going based on a decision made in the mid 1600s is not something I feel obliged to accept in this day and age.

It's not all about what you want.

I never said it was. However, I can express what I want just like anyone else can. For or against or neutral.

Tizzwazz · 03/06/2024 01:56

IsoldeWagner · 02/06/2024 18:27

Please enlighten me - because I'd really like to know: if a person is a republican, against having a monarchy and a royal family.....why on earth support Harry and Meghan?
They are as royal as they come! Carrying on with the titles, status and privilege, choosing to call their children Prince and Princess, having a crown above the monogrammed M on Meghan's personalised notepaper...it goes on.
If you don't want a monarchy, I have no idea why you'd support arrogant very royal chancers like Harry and Meghan.

I was a royalist from youth and enjoyed all things Royal. I loved the pageantry, images, stories, history and as a teenager watched my first Royal Wedding. I was in awe of Princess Diana. I then followed all things Harry and William. Harry was my favourite Royal.

When Charles married Camilla and the promotion of her began it left a bad taste in my mouth. I found Charles lacking. I started to think about the dysfunction that surrounds the family members of such an archaic institution.

I continue to follow Harry. I am, however, somewhat inclined to republicanism these days since the passing of Queen Elizabeth II.

Tizzwazz · 03/06/2024 14:23

skullbabe · 15/05/2024 14:36

Part 6 of positive threads, delving into all things Meghan and Harry. Whether it’s the causes they support, their business initiatives, or Meghan’s fashion choices (Harry’s too, on occasion 😉), there’s plenty to discuss Just a pro-tip - that there may be use of MLE terms and discussions of dupes - you might want to exit stage left if these things offend. This is a relatively drama free zone - let’s keep things light! Clinking a glass of lemonade 🥂 to @queentim for the original inspiration.

In keeping with the original post:

This is a look I wish I could wear. Love it.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/fashion/royal-style/645871/meghan-markle-monochrome-jumpsuit-gabriela-hearst-dupe/

Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Montecito Moments Edition
Mylovelygreendress · 04/06/2024 14:16

The Duke of Westminster gets married on Friday in what has been described as the Society Wedding of the Year. H and M are not going . Sources said they weren’t invited , the Sussexes issued a statement insisting they had received a save the date but decided not to go . It’s now been reported that William is to be an usher and Harry was angry that he wasn’t asked.
Whatever the reasons , I wonder if we will see H and M out on a hike/ lunch date/
whatever on Friday to try and get some headlines ?

BemusedAmerican · 04/06/2024 15:02

This reply has been withdrawn

This message has been withdrawn at the poster's request

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.