Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition

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Part 5 of (mostly 😂) drama-free and positive threads, delving into all things Meghan and Harry. Whether it’s the causes they support, their business initiatives, or Meghan’s fashion choices (Harry’s too, on occasion 😉), there’s plenty to discuss. Just a pro-tip - that there may be use of MLE terms and discussions of dupes - you might want to exit stage left if these things offend. Hat tip to @queentim for the original inspiration.

Angela Levin is notorious and often lets slips obtuse information that is then run with as truth. But the absolute worst is Lady "Colin" Campbell who pretends to know what the royals think and broadcasts the most odious scurillious nonsense about H&M to her considerable online following. In a plummy voice like fingernails running down a blackboard. But there's no denying the BRF are unparalleld global superstars whether you love them or loathe them and the world and its dog love to feed on them .

Anyway back on topic - the Mail have done a full wardrobe breakdown.

https://archive.ph/xx2nF

I don't think that interpretation stands up to the evidence provided by the way Charles has lived.

But then neither does a lot he has said about Meghan.

I don't consider his work impeccably sourced so much as it is focused on forming the worst conclusions and extrapolating to the max about everything and anyone, with just enough fact mixed in to make it hard to sue him.

@MrsLeonFarrell

Thank you. 👏🏽

I'd forgotten about Colin, mostly because I never see her in the papers. I understand she has a YouTube channel but I've never seen it.

I agree about the family being fed on, I think it's why never complain, never explain came about as the only way to damp down speculation. Every comment just inflames things, which is something I think Harry and Meghan have taken on board in the last year to a great extent. Trying to tackle rumour and lies, and the press and social media is like the famous wrestling with a pig analogy.

The sphinx like nature of the Queen was one of her greatest strengths I don't think we ever knew what was her opinion on anything remotely controversial. Just a couple of obtuse statements come to mind - one about the Scottish Independence vote and another a EU coloured hat. Philip was another matter of course.....

Given this, it seems unlikely that Charles has to be “forced” to visit certain countries.

I disagree.

The fact is that Charles did the vast majority of these trips while QE2, who unquestionably had a far stronger sense of public duty than all the current lot, was queen. Of course as Prince Charles he didn't have a choice, he did what he was told to do was in the best interests of the monarchy.

This is immaterial to the question of whether he enjoyed visiting "dark" Commonwealth countries or not.

I don't think many people would think what Bower said is in any way inconsistent with what is becoming increasingly clear about the senior royals.

On a similar vein, do folks remember when Camilla visited a primary school to read children's stories, observed a nice bracelet on the wrist of a little black girl, then held up the girls arm by the cuff of her sleeve to avoid touching her skin?

The videos are all online. Here's one article of many written at the time (Nov 2022):

https://www.newsweek.com/queen-camilla-awkward-interaction-child-race-debate-1762340

Not to mention Kate and William waving at Jamaicans held back by a wire fence during their disastrous Jamaica tour, which I'll link next.

Not to mention Kate and William waving at Jamaicans held back by a wire fence during their disastrous Jamaica tour, which I'll link next.
Sports fields are often surrounded by wire fences. You'll find similar photos of Meghan and Harry interacting with fans through a wire fence in Nigeria.

And the creme de la creme, Kate and William greeting Jamaican "natives" cloistered behind a wire fence:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kate-and-will-mocked-tone-deaf-fence-jamaica-photo/

Can anyone imagine any of the current senior royals (or any of them, for that matter) hugging and taking selfies with Nigerians?? (royal protocol or not)

These are the heirs of Prince Phillip, let's not forget.

Super! How about sharing a link of the pics of Kate and William hugging Jamaicans during their 2022 tour, as M&H did in Nigeria?

(royal protocol bla bla bla)

Excuses, schmexcuses.... we are not so easily fooled!

These are lovely photos of the Prince and Princess of Wales on their tour of Jamaica.

Well done for finding handshakes.....

Now search for the hugs?????

Kate and William definitely hug people - there’s plenty of evidence for it, as posted below. The difference is that they tend to do so with people they already know, not strangers (for example William has been spotted hugging some of the Lionesses) and in more informal engagements. Not so much those where they are overseas as official representatives of the UK government where, quite frankly, it’s not remotely appropriate when meeting dignitaries. That doesn’t mean that they don’t also interact with people though, like this photo taken in Jamaica

Why do they have to hug? What is so special about hugging? A hug can be insincere you know. I’ve said elsewhere, my neurodivergent son doesn’t hug. Doesn’t mean he isn’t affectionate and sincere. Probably more so than those who hug performatively

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Lovely summary of the Naija trip from CNN here:

Extract:
Meghan visited Nigeria as a duchess and left an African princess
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex embarked on what was officially dubbed a 3-day private visit to Nigeria, yet it unfolded with all the grandeur and attention typically reserved for royal tours.
Their first day saw them receive a red-carpet welcome complete with cultural dancers following their arrival in the Nigerian capital of Abuja, where they kicked off a multi-day mental health summit at Lightway Academy.
There, they also unveiled a partnership between their Archewell Foundation and the GEANCO Foundation to provide students with school supplies and menstrual products.

The pair had been invited to the West African nation by the country’s highest-ranking military official, Christopher Musa. After meeting him at the Nigerian Defence Headquarters, Meghan signed a guest book thanking officials for “welcoming me home.”
They were warmly received everywhere they went, with Nigerians showcasing their famed hospitality. The couple were showered with gifts, including a touching portrait of a young Harry with his mum.

For both Nigeria and the Sussexes, this visit held significant weight.
It was an opportunity for Nigeria to demonstrate its capability to host such high-profile guests and dispel any doubts raised by skeptics, especially considering the country’s standing in the eyes of the UK’s Foreign Office as one of the most dangerous countries to visit in the world.
Nigeria has security issues with a terrorist insurgency in the northeast and northwest. However, it is a huge country — larger than the US state of Texas — and the other areas visited by the royal couple over the past several days are relatively safe.

Meanwhile, for Prince Harry and Meghan, this marked their first major trip to Africa since relinquishing their official royal duties.
It was a chance for them to engage in a hearts-and-minds charm offensive, which they executed with aplomb.
Meghan, in particular, embraced exploring her Nigerian ancestry after discovering several years ago that she is 43% Nigerian through a genealogy test.
On Saturday, she co-hosted a women’s leadership event with Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, Director-General of the World Trade Organisation, for about 50 leading women from across Nigerian society and politics, business, media, and culture.
During a panel discussion, moderated by Nigerian media mogul Mo Abudu, the duchess spoke passionately about uncovering her Nigerian roots and its significance to her own identity.
It was here that Meghan’s natural ability to connect really shone through. She chatted effortlessly with attendees, posed for selfies and engaged in heartfelt conversations.
At another event on Sunday at the prestigious Delborough Hotel in Lagos - where the great and good of Nigerian society had gathered to welcome the couple - she appeared visibly moved when three powerful traditional rulers honored her with royal titles.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/13/africa/meghan-nigeria-tour-int-latam/index.html

Great stuff!

Kate and William definitely hug people

Hmmm.... sounds like a deliberate attempt to distort the point I am making.

Nice try.

Now you are just being far too sensible @MummyJ12 !!

I’m happy enough not trying to engineer examples of racism out of thin air and to try to allege things that have happened in a certain way when they have not.

I’ve experienced enough racism in my time. That was plenty.

I’ve no time to live my life in a bubble of perceived hatred. If folk are determined to see it in everything then folk will. It doesn’t have to be real.

If I want that, I’ll go on another board here.

@TallerSally - I have to applaud your dedication to the cause, but hugging ? People are bad if they don’t hug? What is this nonsense?

This! Absolutely this.

I too have a neurodivergent son who is exactly the same. Hates being touched by people who he doesn’t know, a hug would completely freak him out. There’s nothing wrong with respecting people’s boundaries and being approachable and friendly (as the Prince and Princess of Wales were) without the need for hugging everyone. Catherine and William do hug, when it’s appropriate and welcomed. They just don’t throw themselves on people!

I have to add that everyone that came into contact with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, were invited in to whichever event it was at that time. Everything had been arranged.

I have to add that everyone that came into contact with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, were invited in to whichever event it was at that time. Everything had been arranged.

In sharp contrast to events involving the senior royals.

Folks, try as hard as you may, the point I and others are making is coming across loud and clear.

Bower's comment did not come from thin air.

Not distorting your point at all. Because we can see that:

There’s plenty of evidence to show that William and Kate hug members of the public whom they know, and whom they meet in informal settings.

William and Kate don’t however hug people they are meeting for the first time in a formal setting, because that is generally not appropriate behaviour when you are representing your country in a diplomatic setting.

(on the latter point, there was a state visit last week between Denmark and Sweden. The new Danish King and Queen are contemporaries of the Swedish Crown Princess and Prince, and they are good friends. When they met for the state visit however, the Swedes shook hands and curtsied/bowed to the Danish. Because that’s appropriate behaviour when you’re representing your country. Meghan wasn’t representing anyone but herself in Nigeria. There’s a difference).

Don’t forget, Bower said some choice things about Meghan too. Did those comments come from nothing?

On another thread last week, posters were claiming this was an Invictus business trip. Is that still the case, do they think?

....something about not seeing the wood for the trees going on here....