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Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition

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skullbabe · 10/05/2024 20:44

Part 5 of (mostly ๐Ÿ˜‚) drama-free and positive threads, delving into all things Meghan and Harry. Whether itโ€™s the causes they support, their business initiatives, or Meghanโ€™s fashion choices (Harryโ€™s too, on occasion ๐Ÿ˜‰), thereโ€™s plenty to discuss. Just a pro-tip - that there may be use of MLE terms and discussions of dupes - you might want to exit stage left if these things offend. Hat tip to @queentim for the original inspiration.

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cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 15:31

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 14:46

Sometimes I wish that people who do not like Meghan would think carefully about what they are saying in their eagerness to rubbish everything she does. Iโ€™m seeing a few shocked Nigerians on other forums about the way they and their country are being spoken about. (I saw the same with Jamaica).

Anyway - as someone with no skin in the game Iโ€™m pleased Meghan didnโ€™t become involved in the jollof wars? Can you imagine ๐Ÿคฃ? I made the mistake once of saying โ€œtomatoey pepper ricesโ€ in the presence of some Nigerians and Ghanaians - yup that day I learned they donโ€™t come to play ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…!

Oh yes, I remember the Jamaica comments well. As well as those from the disastrous Will and Kate Caribbean tour.

Patterns, patterns...

cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 15:32

DiTePerdantTeMaledico · 13/05/2024 15:29

I have blinds.

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cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 15:33

Anyway - as someone with no skin in the game Iโ€™m pleased Meghan didnโ€™t become involved in the jollof wars? Can you imagine ๐Ÿคฃ? I made the mistake once of saying โ€œtomatoey pepper ricesโ€ in the presence of some Nigerians and Ghanaians - yup that day I learned they donโ€™t come to play ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…!

Lmao oh lord @skullbabe . Maybe the Nigerian Aunties also advised her on that as well!

TallerSally · 13/05/2024 15:40

cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 15:33

Anyway - as someone with no skin in the game Iโ€™m pleased Meghan didnโ€™t become involved in the jollof wars? Can you imagine ๐Ÿคฃ? I made the mistake once of saying โ€œtomatoey pepper ricesโ€ in the presence of some Nigerians and Ghanaians - yup that day I learned they donโ€™t come to play ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…!

Lmao oh lord @skullbabe . Maybe the Nigerian Aunties also advised her on that as well!

Ha-ha-ha!

No contest! we all know it all started with the best, thieboudienne!...

(love the stuff, though don't like sitting on my bum to eat it)

But please ignore me - don't wanna derail from CELEBRATING the incredible, stupendous, flawlessly magnificent Invictus / Harry & Meghan / Nigeria tour 2024!!!

YAY!!!! ๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—๐Ÿค—

AnnieSF · 13/05/2024 15:43

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 14:46

Sometimes I wish that people who do not like Meghan would think carefully about what they are saying in their eagerness to rubbish everything she does. Iโ€™m seeing a few shocked Nigerians on other forums about the way they and their country are being spoken about. (I saw the same with Jamaica).

Anyway - as someone with no skin in the game Iโ€™m pleased Meghan didnโ€™t become involved in the jollof wars? Can you imagine ๐Ÿคฃ? I made the mistake once of saying โ€œtomatoey pepper ricesโ€ in the presence of some Nigerians and Ghanaians - yup that day I learned they donโ€™t come to play ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…!

Sometimes I think people who do not like the Princess of Wales would think carefully about what they are saying in their eagerness to rubbish everything she does. I'm seeing a few shocked British people on other forums about the way they and their country are talked about.

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TheFirmBiscuit · 13/05/2024 15:46

I have acess to Google's Gemini Pro AI which is hugely impressive at answering questions such as what did British rule do to the kings of Nigeria. Short answer it's not good. Imagine that the other way round. Those seeking to denigrate the country and it's rulers would do well to see the wider context here.

British colonialism significantly impacted the traditional systems of governance and the roles of kings (Obas, Emirs, Chiefs) in Nigeria:

Erosion of Power and Authority:
The British implemented a system of indirect rule, where traditional rulers were used as intermediaries to govern local populations. While this seemingly maintained the traditional structures, it effectively reduced the kings' power and authority. They became subordinate to British colonial administrators and were expected to implement British policies.
The kings' judicial and legislative powers were curtailed, and their control over resources and land was weakened.

Manipulation and Co-option:
The British often manipulated and co-opted traditional rulers to maintain control and legitimize their rule. They appointed and deposed kings, rewarded those who cooperated, and punished those who resisted.
This created divisions and rivalries among traditional rulers, weakening their collective power and making them more dependent on British support.

Loss of Economic Control:
The British controlled the major economic sectors in Nigeria, such as agriculture, mining, and trade. This deprived traditional rulers of their economic base and sources of revenue, further diminishing their influence.
The introduction of a cash economy and new forms of taxation also disrupted traditional economic systems, undermining the kings' traditional role in managing resources and distributing wealth.

Cultural and Social Changes:
The British introduced Western education and Christianity, which challenged traditional beliefs and practices. This undermined the cultural authority of traditional rulers and led to a gradual erosion of traditional values and social structures.
The emergence of a Western-educated elite created new power centers that challenged the traditional authority of kings.

Resistance and Collaboration:
Some traditional rulers resisted British colonialism and tried to protect their autonomy and cultural heritage. However, they often faced military force and political pressure from the British.
Others collaborated with the British to maintain their positions and gain access to resources and opportunities. This often led to internal conflicts and divisions within communities.

Overall, British colonialism significantly altered the role and status of traditional rulers in Nigeria. While they retained some symbolic and ceremonial functions, their political and economic power was greatly reduced. The legacy of this impact continues to shape Nigerian politics and society today.

TallerSally · 13/05/2024 15:48

AnnieSF · 13/05/2024 15:43

Sometimes I think people who do not like the Princess of Wales would think carefully about what they are saying in their eagerness to rubbish everything she does. I'm seeing a few shocked British people on other forums about the way they and their country are talked about.

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How incredibly incisive and pertinent to the matter at hand!!!

Impressive!

Lampzade · 13/05/2024 15:50

I thought it was a wonderful and very interesting tour
I learned a lot about the Nigerian culture and the different tribes . The fact that Nigeria has so many ethnicities and languages fascinated me
It is such a shame that Harry and Meghan are not part of the working royals.
Seeing them tour Nigeria just showed how much they are needed
I went on social media the consensus from many Nigerians is that they were thrilled to have Harry and Meghan in Nigeria. They felt that the tour highlighted some of the positive things about Nigeria

TheFirmBiscuit · 13/05/2024 15:55

AnnieSF · 13/05/2024 15:43

Sometimes I think people who do not like the Princess of Wales would think carefully about what they are saying in their eagerness to rubbish everything she does. I'm seeing a few shocked British people on other forums about the way they and their country are talked about.

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Oops - Sussex !

DiTePerdantTeMaledico · 13/05/2024 15:57

Every day is a school day. I have enjoyed learning about Nigeria.

Lessons have turned into lectures though. And that is tiresome.

And a shame.

jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 16:00

Other countries and nations have kings you say!!!
Wow I'm amazed how amazing!
Who would have known this !
Colour me amazed and surprised.

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 16:01

Sometimes you find that something isnโ€™t for you - Iโ€™m sure that you will be able to find what youโ€™re looking for elsewhere.

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DiTePerdantTeMaledico · 13/05/2024 16:03

And sometimes folk will find that they are not able to tell folk what to do or think.

Or where they can be.

jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 16:09

Sometimes I find people deliberately pushing buttons!
Sometimes it's very irritating!
Sometimes things are transparenty clear .
Sometimes things are murky and opaque.

cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 16:10

What a shame such a sensible response is met with unnecessary hostility

jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 16:11

Yes a real shame.

cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 16:11

jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 16:09

Sometimes I find people deliberately pushing buttons!
Sometimes it's very irritating!
Sometimes things are transparenty clear .
Sometimes things are murky and opaque.

Yes, seems to be a pattern for some in these Meghan out and about threads. Going on thread 5 now

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 16:12

Great shot at Giants of Africa

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cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 16:13

That is a great photo. Do we know who took it?

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 16:15

@Delectable is that fantastic headwear this lady is wearing also called a gele?

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jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 16:16

Now that is a fabulous photo!!!

cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 16:16

Also I wanted to comment before that I enjoyed how much access media was given to the trip, lots of local media.

And of course it was funny to see the Daily Fail begging for images that someone posted upthread. I'm glad UK media had little to no access (though talked about them daily - quite amusing!!)

Their new communications guy seems to be doing a great job

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 16:17

cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 16:13

That is a great photo. Do we know who took it?

Unfortunately no - I saw another shot out there where all the children had the basketballs in the air. It was really fun - off to find it.

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cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 16:18

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 16:15

@Delectable is that fantastic headwear this lady is wearing also called a gele?

Wow! That's a gorgeous headpiece.

A family friend's mom (Guyanese) wears them regularly (but not as intricate as this!) , because of the cultural history, and I've always loved them. They're so beautiful

cookienomstar · 13/05/2024 16:22

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 16:17

Unfortunately no - I saw another shot out there where all the children had the basketballs in the air. It was really fun - off to find it.

Thanks! I see Mr. Harriman in the background so it's not him

Slightly Off topic: I've been consumed by ncaa and wnba this past month, and very excited Toronto's been awarded their own team. Ujiri must be ecstatic.

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