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Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition

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skullbabe · 10/05/2024 20:44

Part 5 of (mostly ๐Ÿ˜‚) drama-free and positive threads, delving into all things Meghan and Harry. Whether itโ€™s the causes they support, their business initiatives, or Meghanโ€™s fashion choices (Harryโ€™s too, on occasion ๐Ÿ˜‰), thereโ€™s plenty to discuss. Just a pro-tip - that there may be use of MLE terms and discussions of dupes - you might want to exit stage left if these things offend. Hat tip to @queentim for the original inspiration.

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TallerSally · 13/05/2024 11:38

TheFirmBiscuit · 12/05/2024 22:45

Two short 'X' videos that are bang on the money IMHO.

The first from arch royalist and all round amazing woman Tina Brown on the Harry shaped hole in the heart of the BRF.

https://twitter.com/QueenRMade1/status/1789611057260253683

And secondly from the erstwhile James' O'Brien who nails the reason for the vitriloic hate reigning down on the poor couple.

https://twitter.com/DrDobberstein/status/1788598246744481832

A.M.E.N.!

TallerSally · 13/05/2024 11:41

Delectable · 13/05/2024 01:00

The DM is busy messaging Nigerians for videos and photos ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ This one said, no way!
Pressing their necks! ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜‚

Now THIS one had me in stitches, thanks @Delectable !

You can tell this Naija trip was a HUGE SUCCESS as the normally batsh*t British media can't find anything negative of any significance to say, despite no doubt desperately muck-racking!

jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 11:41

Ofcourse it's not. Most people love them which is why British media works tirelessly with the Bucks palace to manipulate.

What does this mean?

TheFirmBiscuit · 13/05/2024 11:42

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 13/05/2024 10:35

Well hopefully the new Nigerian princess will tackle these issues head on, being the feminist and humanitarian that she is with her huge platform and desire to bring about meaningful change. Along with the widespread practice of FGM, that is once again on the rise, the persecution of Christians, the persecution of homosexuals, the missing kidnapped schoolgirls and the continued mass kidnapping of children, and the unequal treatment of those people that are the descendants of slaves (which only ended in Nigeria in the 1940s, so is still very much a live problem). These are all issues a princess with an incredible sphere of influence and support should be tackling, and she should hold herself accountable as a Nigerian of immense power and ability to bring about change until that change does happen. To quote Meghan, silence is complicity. So hopefully she will not be silent, she will hold the Nigerian authorities to account as a member of royalty, she listen to the vulnerable Nigerian populace, and she will not let them down.

Well Nigeria is a member of the Commonwealth and with a nod from the Royal Family no doubt the Foreign and Commonwealth and Development Office could grasp this opportunity with both hands and and work on a joint programme to carry forward some of these noble initaives. That would require some grown up thinking from them though and a re-examination of the half-in half-out option that was on the table. King Charles would find some solace from healing the relationship with his estranged son and William could grow a pair and be reunited with his only brother. Most folks would find great joy in such a mending of broken bridges and the Royal Family would also get some kudos in return.

The sad truth is Charles is trapped within the institution - probably with limited capacity to do such a thing. I remember Tom Bowyer chillingly threatening him if he backtracked on that as he is the institution first and human second.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11638381/TOM-BOWER-No-one-knows-better-Charles-Prince-Harry-barely-scratched-surface.html

TOM BOWER: Harry has barely scratched the surface

TOM BOWER: In the face of multiple smears, indiscretions and provocations, Charles betrayed one of his cardinal weaknesses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11638381/TOM-BOWER-No-one-knows-better-Charles-Prince-Harry-barely-scratched-surface.html

Wickedlywearynamechanged · 13/05/2024 11:46

Yes, thank you @Delectable . Iโ€™ve read your posts with interest.

Thanks OP for the thread and your imput, and working hard to keep it on track.

smilesy · 13/05/2024 11:57

Well Nigeria is a member of the Commonwealth and with a nod from the Royal Family no doubt the Foreign and Commonwealth and Development Office could grasp this opportunity with both hands and and work on a joint programme to carry forward some of these noble initaives. That would require some grown up thinking from them though and a re-examination of the half-in half-out option that was on the table. King Charles would find some solace from healing the relationship with his estranged son and William could grow a pair and be reunited with his only brother. Most folks would find great joy in such a mending of broken bridges and the Royal Family would also get some kudos in return.

I donโ€™t think Nigeria being a
member of the Commonwealth gives the UK government or the monarchy the right to dictate to them what their domestic policy should be. There is already international pressure on them to end these practices. I think @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar was just pointing out that the new Princess of Nigeria is conveniently overlooking the less savoury side of things. She is in no position to exert any influence

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 13/05/2024 11:58

TheFirmBiscuit · 13/05/2024 11:42

Well Nigeria is a member of the Commonwealth and with a nod from the Royal Family no doubt the Foreign and Commonwealth and Development Office could grasp this opportunity with both hands and and work on a joint programme to carry forward some of these noble initaives. That would require some grown up thinking from them though and a re-examination of the half-in half-out option that was on the table. King Charles would find some solace from healing the relationship with his estranged son and William could grow a pair and be reunited with his only brother. Most folks would find great joy in such a mending of broken bridges and the Royal Family would also get some kudos in return.

The sad truth is Charles is trapped within the institution - probably with limited capacity to do such a thing. I remember Tom Bowyer chillingly threatening him if he backtracked on that as he is the institution first and human second.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11638381/TOM-BOWER-No-one-knows-better-Charles-Prince-Harry-barely-scratched-surface.html

Nigeria is an independent state and Meghan Markle is an independent, private citizen with a massive platform and a new royal title from Nigeria. She is no longer anything to do with the British royal family - her choice. Nigeria is also an immensely wealthy country full of the immensely wealthy and well connected elites showcased by you and other posters on this thread. It is not up to any other country to sort out Nigeria's problems and it is certainly not King Charles' problem or that of the Commonwealth. If the FCO chooses to help sort out Nigeria's many serious human rights violations and corruption, it will need to be at the request of the Nigerian government and executed via official governmental/diplomatic channels and official organisations, not Meghan and Harry and their dubious enterprises. If Nigeria will only accept help if Meghan and Harry are allowed a half in, half out deal back into the British Royal Family, then I am afraid that's not going happen, and you should be ashamed to suggest that helping poor citizens in Nigeria should be at the mercy of the egos of two US based celebrity elites.

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 11:58

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TallerSally · 13/05/2024 11:59

Gushing praise about this "triumphant" Nigeria trip by the "star power" couple from the ever so opportunistic Independent.

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/being-royal-still-what-meghan-harry-do-best-3052465

"Flicking through the coverage of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexโ€™s triumphant tour of Nigeria, you would be forgiven for thinking that the past four years had not happened. That there had been no โ€œMegxitโ€, no freedom flight taking the couple to California by way of Canada, that the couple were still very much working royals.
For this three-day visit to the bustling African nation bore all the hallmarks of a traditional royal tour. There were smiling school children, a formal welcome ceremony, dance routines to showcase local culture, engagements highlighting causes close to the coupleโ€™s heart (female empowerment and mental wellbeing) and careful sartorial choices intended to pay homage to their host nation.
It came off beautifully.
The couple displayed the easy charisma and star power of their royal tours of old. Prince Harry took part in a training session of sitting volleyball with injured servicemen while Meghan โ€“ who is 43 per cent Nigerian according to a genealogy test she took โ€“ told students she saw herself in all of them before joking that she had โ€œgotten the memo that I need to wear more colour so I can fit in with all of youโ€, sporting a scarlet spaghetti-strap dress by Lagos-based brand Orรญrรฉ."

Being Royal is actually what Meghan and Harry do best

This three-day visit to the bustling African nation bore all the hallmarks of a traditional royal tour

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/being-royal-still-what-meghan-harry-do-best-3052465

jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 12:02

smilesy · 13/05/2024 11:57

Well Nigeria is a member of the Commonwealth and with a nod from the Royal Family no doubt the Foreign and Commonwealth and Development Office could grasp this opportunity with both hands and and work on a joint programme to carry forward some of these noble initaives. That would require some grown up thinking from them though and a re-examination of the half-in half-out option that was on the table. King Charles would find some solace from healing the relationship with his estranged son and William could grow a pair and be reunited with his only brother. Most folks would find great joy in such a mending of broken bridges and the Royal Family would also get some kudos in return.

I donโ€™t think Nigeria being a
member of the Commonwealth gives the UK government or the monarchy the right to dictate to them what their domestic policy should be. There is already international pressure on them to end these practices. I think @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar was just pointing out that the new Princess of Nigeria is conveniently overlooking the less savoury side of things. She is in no position to exert any influence

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jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 12:03

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar
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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 13/05/2024 12:10

TallerSally · 13/05/2024 11:59

Gushing praise about this "triumphant" Nigeria trip by the "star power" couple from the ever so opportunistic Independent.

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/being-royal-still-what-meghan-harry-do-best-3052465

"Flicking through the coverage of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexโ€™s triumphant tour of Nigeria, you would be forgiven for thinking that the past four years had not happened. That there had been no โ€œMegxitโ€, no freedom flight taking the couple to California by way of Canada, that the couple were still very much working royals.
For this three-day visit to the bustling African nation bore all the hallmarks of a traditional royal tour. There were smiling school children, a formal welcome ceremony, dance routines to showcase local culture, engagements highlighting causes close to the coupleโ€™s heart (female empowerment and mental wellbeing) and careful sartorial choices intended to pay homage to their host nation.
It came off beautifully.
The couple displayed the easy charisma and star power of their royal tours of old. Prince Harry took part in a training session of sitting volleyball with injured servicemen while Meghan โ€“ who is 43 per cent Nigerian according to a genealogy test she took โ€“ told students she saw herself in all of them before joking that she had โ€œgotten the memo that I need to wear more colour so I can fit in with all of youโ€, sporting a scarlet spaghetti-strap dress by Lagos-based brand Orรญrรฉ."

Talking of batshit British media...

TheFirmBiscuit · 13/05/2024 12:16

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 13/05/2024 11:58

Nigeria is an independent state and Meghan Markle is an independent, private citizen with a massive platform and a new royal title from Nigeria. She is no longer anything to do with the British royal family - her choice. Nigeria is also an immensely wealthy country full of the immensely wealthy and well connected elites showcased by you and other posters on this thread. It is not up to any other country to sort out Nigeria's problems and it is certainly not King Charles' problem or that of the Commonwealth. If the FCO chooses to help sort out Nigeria's many serious human rights violations and corruption, it will need to be at the request of the Nigerian government and executed via official governmental/diplomatic channels and official organisations, not Meghan and Harry and their dubious enterprises. If Nigeria will only accept help if Meghan and Harry are allowed a half in, half out deal back into the British Royal Family, then I am afraid that's not going happen, and you should be ashamed to suggest that helping poor citizens in Nigeria should be at the mercy of the egos of two US based celebrity elites.

So this much vaunted "soft power" that is often trumpeted as one of the key strengths of the BRF is a bit of chimera. These changes if they are to ever happen will be driven by a wide range of pressures and education. They have to start somewhere. If you ask me the Commonwealth - the much loved institution by Queen Elizabeth has run it's course. It seems to do little but remind it's members of the colonial linkages to Britain who took their countries by force and often left through their policy of divide and rule lasting bitterness and strife beween competing factions that were shoehorned into artificial states drawn up by arbitary lines on the map and looted by the construct of the Royal Niger Company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Nigeria

Colonial Nigeria - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Nigeria

Delectable · 13/05/2024 12:18

TallerSally · 13/05/2024 11:38

@Delectable can I join others in thanking you for your contributions to this thread.

It really is a joy to read some actual content and learn something useful, from someone who clearly knows what they're talking about!

๐Ÿ˜†

Thank you.
I've enjoyed sharing it with people who honour and respect beauty in culture.

AliceOlive · 13/05/2024 12:20

I think itโ€™s wonderful that Meghan is now a real princess in her own right. I hope she rises to the title.

Delectable · 13/05/2024 12:25

In addressing the traditional rules and other elders at the reception in Lagos, Harry addressed them saying, "in-laws, at this point, we're family"๐Ÿ˜€.
He's so respectful and kind!
https://x.com/JazzieIntrovert/status/1789968933983756470 Meg seems to be saying something about her children.
Video from Lagos Diaspora https://x.com/JermainSanwoolu/status/1789687078734737504

Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition
Delectable · 13/05/2024 12:27

At the meeting with the Lagos State Governor!

Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition
Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition
Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition
AliceOlive · 13/05/2024 12:34

Delectable · 13/05/2024 12:25

In addressing the traditional rules and other elders at the reception in Lagos, Harry addressed them saying, "in-laws, at this point, we're family"๐Ÿ˜€.
He's so respectful and kind!
https://x.com/JazzieIntrovert/status/1789968933983756470 Meg seems to be saying something about her children.
Video from Lagos Diaspora https://x.com/JermainSanwoolu/status/1789687078734737504

โ€œin-lawsโ€? Honestly itโ€™s quite awkward.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 13/05/2024 12:37

TheFirmBiscuit · 13/05/2024 12:16

So this much vaunted "soft power" that is often trumpeted as one of the key strengths of the BRF is a bit of chimera. These changes if they are to ever happen will be driven by a wide range of pressures and education. They have to start somewhere. If you ask me the Commonwealth - the much loved institution by Queen Elizabeth has run it's course. It seems to do little but remind it's members of the colonial linkages to Britain who took their countries by force and often left through their policy of divide and rule lasting bitterness and strife beween competing factions that were shoehorned into artificial states drawn up by arbitary lines on the map and looted by the construct of the Royal Niger Company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Nigeria

Sorry, are you saying that Nigeria can't sort out its problems without help and guidance from the UK? Isn't that somewhat colonial thinking? What's actually stopping Nigeria seeking this help now from the international community? What's stopping right thinking Nigerians from stopping the abuses now in their own back yard - all the impressive elites showcased in these threads with their incredible credentials and long reaching influence could make massive changes, couldn't they, right now? The Commonwealth is an entirely voluntary association. No country needs to be in it, so if Nigeria finds it triggering of the past and thinks it has "run its course" then Nigeria could leave. I don't think anyone would have an issue with that.

Delectable · 13/05/2024 12:46

https://x.com/imayhaveapoint/status/1789809161301024884 this video from the Okoyas.

Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition
Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition
Meghan and Harry spotted out and about - Naija Edition
Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 13/05/2024 12:53

skullbabe · 13/05/2024 11:58

Why does an immensely rich country that can afford to shell out millions for this visit need donated sanitary products from the West?

If you would prefer to donate closer to home please consider donating here or consider petitioning the government here to end gendered pricing

You are absolutely correct, @skullbabe. Wealthy elites in wealthy countries should be the first port of call for looking after the poor in their own back yards. Especially those countries that do not benefit from overseas aid. Thank goodness the British taxpayers have deep pockets.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uks-38-million-aid-making-a-difference-in-nigeria-foreign-secretary-james-cleverly

UKโ€™s ยฃ38 million aid making a difference in Nigeria โ€“ Foreign Secretary James Cleverly

Foreign Secretary James Cleverly announced that over ยฃ38 million of UK humanitarian assistance has saved lives of conflict-affected people in North-East Nigeria.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uks-38-million-aid-making-a-difference-in-nigeria-foreign-secretary-james-cleverly

jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 13:00

Excellent work @Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar , hopefully the 38 million helps the right people and doesn't disappear into the wrong pockets.

TheFirmBiscuit · 13/05/2024 13:07

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 13/05/2024 12:53

You are absolutely correct, @skullbabe. Wealthy elites in wealthy countries should be the first port of call for looking after the poor in their own back yards. Especially those countries that do not benefit from overseas aid. Thank goodness the British taxpayers have deep pockets.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uks-38-million-aid-making-a-difference-in-nigeria-foreign-secretary-james-cleverly

Equivalent of chucking a few coins in the bucket.

Based on various academic sources and estimates, it is suggested that Britain extracted hundreds of billions, potentially trillions of dollars worth of resources and wealth from Nigeria during the colonial era. This includes the value of agricultural products (like palm oil and cocoa), minerals (like tin and coal), and human capital.

However, this is a very rough estimate, and the true value could be higher or lower due to the complexities and uncertainties mentioned earlier.

It's important to note that this figure doesn't include the social, cultural, and environmental costs of colonialism, which are difficult to quantify in monetary terms but were significant nonetheless.
^^
General Consensus:

While a precise figure is elusive, there is a general consensus among historians and economists that Britain extracted significant wealth from Nigeria during the colonial period. This wealth contributed to the economic development of Britain while hindering the economic progress of Nigeria.

jeffgoldblum · 13/05/2024 13:16

Are you saying British taxpayers now ( who are on their asses themselves with food banks)
Are responsible for the wealth that colonial governments took?
The wealth that didn't benefit almost all of us alive today?
If 4 years ago is bringing up the past when criticism of h and m is mentioned well I don't know what to think about this!

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