Guess who's back?

[DrJoanAllenby]

Guess who's back? Back again?
Shady's back....

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13391363/prince-harry-arrives-uk-without-meghan-invictus-games-meet-king-charles.html

Exactly this. He can't be trusted and will exploit his family connections wherever he can.
I'm pleased that his father was too busy.

I suspect Dr Richard Montgomery, British High Commissioner in Nigeria has had KC's private sec or equivalent on the blower saying something akin to Malcolm Tucker /Peter capaldi from The Thick of it ... I'd love to be a fly on the wall as to what the palace think of those two monteshitshow clowns

What I find interesting is that Meghan is skipping this UK visit and has been quite vocal about not returning to the UK. But if the UK hosts Invictus in 2027 then she kind of has to come back and what then?

I do think they are looking for other countries than the UK to host the games on purpose, I know Nigeria seems an unlikely choice but why else they be going and encouraging Nigeria to think they're in with a chance of hosting?

This. How easily people are played by media. Nobody on here know these two people. To call people you don't know" dim" and "narcissistic " is a bit ridiculous. You don't know if they are in touch with each other or what their relationship is like. And it's also none of anyone's business. The hate for this couple is really sad. Perhaps think how you would feel if people were discussing your family or daughter/son in this way.

We do know because Harry tells us what the relationship is like.

Perhaps think how you would feel if people were discussing your family or daughter/son in this way.

Maybe you should have said this to Harry considering the massive paycheque he has received for saying awful things about his own Father, brother and sister in law in front of the whole world.

This. How easily people are played by media

No, I have drawn my own conclusions from the words directly from their own mouths, no ‘media’ necessary.

And it's also none of anyone's business.

Harry has made it our business by writing books, a 6 part reality Netflix show and endless interviews amongst other things so expecting people not to have an opinion on what he has said is actually quite ridiculous.

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I have been under massive stress from my family for two years, and now I have cancer. I do think there is a link. Stress affects the immune system and that can give cancer a chance. It may not be the only reason, but I think it contributes

Yes I totally agree with this. They did their job well and were a welcome change from rather more stuffy members of the RF who won’t even deign to shake hands with people who have been waiting hours to see them.

Also, I think King Charles needs to be very careful here. First, I think he should be taking the high road and trying to heal the rift between his sons and between himself and Harry. That is what a responsible parent should do, particularly one with uncertain health.

Second, KC is head of the Church of England and surely forgiveness is one of the central tenets of the Christian faith? How can he set an example and broadcast Christmas messages when his own house is not in order? What happened to turning the other cheek?

One of these days KC will be attending church and the story of the prodigal son will pop up in the readings and if he has any conscience at all, he will feel very uncomfortable indeed.

I feel really sorry for Harry. If one of my dc felt so hurt that they caused an issue within the family, which meant I was estranged from them, and I had barely met their young children, I would examine my conscious to see what part I had played in the build up to the event, and I would be fighting tooth and nail to restore my relationship with them in any way I could.

It’s not as if KC doesn’t have resources and counselling opportunities at his disposal. He has the entire clergy of the C of E to call upon and help with mediation if the will was there to do so.

King Charles is a mature man, and one of the advantages of being an older King is accrued wisdom. He must be aware that this situation will continue to corrode the standing of the RF and damage them all if it is not resolved soon?

Harry and Meghan have made it everyone's business. How are you missing that? The book, the interviews, the books by their mouthpiece Scrotie? And the way they have spoken about his father, brother, sister-in-law and stepmother is hardly edifying either. You only see what you want to see. Open your mind!

There is plenty of information in the public domain to assess whether this pair are "dim" or "narcissistic". Which they are. That the King hasn't made time to see Harry is pretty damning as to the state of their relationship, never mind the half hour he spent with him when he forced himself on his father after his diagnosis. Don't be so naive!

Literally every word we have heard H&M say has been channelled through the prism of some production company or other, whether it belonged to a news, documentary, television, newspaper or a book publishing entity. And all of these media organisations had independent agendas to the participants.

None of us know the individuals involved or what actually took place.

Yes I totally agree with this. They did their job well and were a welcome change from rather more stuffy members of the RF who won’t even deign to shake hands with people who have been waiting hours to see them.

Have you ever actually seen a member of the royal family?, point one in their job description is shaking hands with the crowds who come to see them! What an utterly bizarre and verifiably false statement.

They absolutely have made it everyone's business with their shit stirring. Bringing up all his grievances and splashing them all over the media. This from somebody who wants privacy. He is an absolute liability. and a hypocrite of the first degree.

Accrued wisdom will help when pondering the merits of accepting someone into his household who cannot be trusted.

As for forgiveness? There is a time when you have to protect you and yours from someone who is intent on damaging everything you’ve known.

I confess I’ve been played by the palace and the press. I almost believed Harry was a fun loving giddy prince when in reality, he appears to be a seething ball of anger, jealousy and resentment. And worse? Spite.

I cannot feel sorry for Harry as he brought this on himself.

Sometimes you reap just what you sow.

Harry is a middle aged man, who the last time his father met with him took it to a US tv show and spoke about not just Charles but William again. There’s no trust, imagine speaking to your child and having to guard every word, nevermind how he talked about Camilla. If you write a relationship ending book, relationships end or are never the same again.

Oh not that old chestnut “none of us know” that’s used by Sussex supporters to try and shut down discussion. No not having it, and unless the pair of them were replaced by AI what has come out of their mouths or penned by their own hand is what I base my opinion on, and as they are a very litigious couple if the ‘Prism’ of a production company did not show ‘their truth’ you can be sure we would all know about it.

So what about Meghan, who didn't deign to meet women in South Africa who had been waiting in anticipation to meet her? I'm not aware of any occasions where the RF refused to shake people's hands!!

They did their job ok-ish. The optics of Meghan complaining that nobody asked her if she was ok in such a poor country, weren't great!

Who says the King isn't going to reunite with his errant son? There will be a time and a place. How do you know that he hasn't forgiven him? Do you know what the communication is between them?

I wouldn't be examining either my "conscious" [sic] or my conscience. If your child had caused so much upset and damage to the family, and made it clear that he can't be trusted, I doubt you would be so forgiving!

Don't you think Harry should be examining his conscience too, and reflecting on the hurt he has caused his family? Or how he has kept his children from his birth family? And how they have totally rejected Meghan's family? Common theme there!

The King will be well aware of how this is playing out. However, he can't control Harry!

Yeah that is so much bullshit! We know a lot because Meghan and Harry have said so much!!

That is utter bull and you know it!

Also, I think King Charles needs to be very careful here. First, I think he should be taking the high road and trying to heal the rift between his sons and between himself and Harry. That is what a responsible parent should do, particularly one with uncertain health. He has taken the high road, despite all the dreadful things his son has said about him for money, King Charles has said nothing publicly in retaliation apart from recollections may vary, as for healing the rift, maybe he has tried, and William never has to have anything to do with Harry if he doesn’t want to, no one has to tolerate emotional abuse.

One of these days KC will be attending church and the story of the prodigal son will pop up in the readings and if he has any conscience at all, he will feel very uncomfortable indeed. One of these days King Charles will be dead and Harry, if he has any conscience at all will feel very uncomfortable indeed.

I feel really sorry for Harry. If one of my dc felt so hurt that they caused an issue within the family, which meant I was estranged from them, and I had barely met their young children, I would examine my conscious to see what part I had played in the build up to the event, and I would be fighting tooth and nail to restore my relationship with them in any way I could.

He doesn’t feel hurt though, he feels angry, bitter and jealous because he is the spare and didn’t get the biggest sausage or the bigger bedroom and didn’t get his own way on his ‘progressive new role’ he announced before his flounce, the list of his ‘It’s not fair’ gripes are endless, no one can fix Harry only himself, he is a big boy now and his elderly cancer stricken father who is also Head of State should not have the burden of Harry’s teenage tantrums.

Ha! 😀

Absolutely delighted to see that my responses have generated nine or so outraged replies! That must be a record!

I still stand by my posts though.

And for those contradicting me on the hand-shaking point saying it’s factually incorrect; maybe you should take note of Princess Anne’s and Prince Edward’s own words?

From Hello magazine:
”In an ITV documentary Queen of the World, which aired in 2018, the late monarch's daughter explained how the rules have changed. "I mean we never shook hands," she said. "The theory was that you couldn't shake hands with everybody, so don't start. So I kind of stick with that, but I notice others don't."

And from The Sun,
” when Edward and Sophie met well-wishers outside Buckingham Palace following the death of Queen Elizabeth, the former Earl of Wessex apologised for not shaking people's hands.

He was heard telling a well-wisher that he was trying not to shake hands in order to meet more people and ensure he did not fall behind as he attended to speak to as many crowd members as possible.”

You're easily pleased.

I think it shows what a good guy he is that he's still supporting the Invictus games when he could have walked away from all that. I certainly would have done, especially living thousands of miles away.