Guess who's back?

[DrJoanAllenby]

Guess who's back? Back again?
Shady's back....

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13391363/prince-harry-arrives-uk-without-meghan-invictus-games-meet-king-charles.html

You said "many 19 year old women have more sense and maturity than a man in his 30s".

I work with teen girls. Yes, they're more mature than their male counterparts, but no, on no planet are they more mature than the 30+ year old men I know. Mentally and emotionally they're still very much children – even those "mature", "reliable" ones – in so many ways I could go on about.

Also, for that reason, I would not advise most teen girls to romantically or sexually be with 30+ year old men (this is not about Diana at all, but about the fact that I don't believe your claim about your comparative maturity).

I don’t think anyone can have a serious conversation with a poster that claims Diana marrying Charles is what caused her death. 🤷‍♀️

It was a bad idea - hindsight is a great thing. I don't think anyone would dispute that. It didn't lead directly to her death at all though. It's way more complex. Maybe in an alternative life something else tragic might have befallen her - who knows?

On the maturity thing I am not going to compare 19 and 32. However, maybe Diana was more mature for her years because she had had to live through the family split and dysfunction? She had also spent two terms in a Swiss finishing school, following which she lived independently with her flatmates in London. She had been in the flat for around 2 years when she got engaged to Charles. So pretty much from the age of 16 or so she had lived away from home.

was very much a child at 20, as anyone of a certain age will tell you!

I am of a certain age, I was working full time at the age of 16 and bought my first house at age 20, I was very much an adult, living in an adult world doing adult things, as were a lot of my peers, I certainly wasn’t an outlier.

Off topic a bit, but I find it interesting that the myth of H and M being 'young' seems very pervasive. OK, they're not old - they're what I'd call 'young middle-aged' now. I suppose in the UK the image of Harry as a young prince persists and somehow this has been extended to Meghan.

The number of times their supporters refer to them as a young couple, or excuse Meghan's failure to cope with royal protocol as if she were a teenage virgin bride!

@spritebottle , I rarely tag posters however I will this once !
1 I never mentioned Diana in my post
2 I don't care about this topic at all , it's boring and a complete derail to the ops thread
3 don't lecture me ! , anyone who has to write essays on a thread is clearly bored or under the mistaken impression that other posters care about their opinions.

That's an odd one.
I wonder if it's to make them seem more vulnerable? That would tie in with their continuous victims narrative.

Thank you for at least admitting that what I wrote is scientifically true.

12 years is a significant amount at those ages. I recall their engagement thinking she's 3 years older than me and he's 3 years younger than my dad.

I think it’s partially to excuse Harry for not getting Meghan the help she needed. And for thinking it was his brother and father’s job to protect his own wife.

He was well beyond 32 but still woefully immature when he married. The stories he tells about his own behavior prove that. What mature man uses the gas meant for his wife who is labor?

Quite. There seems to be a lot of excusing bad or irresponsible behaviour because of “being young” in people of quite advanced years. If someone is deemed an adult at 18, then surely by the time they are in their 30’s and 40’s they must be able to take responsibility for their actions 😊

Does that mean your father was 19 when you were born?

I'm going to say that a 16 year old having a 35 year old Dad is actually quite a small age gap.
However - it's more evidence to support the fact that there were a lot of young marriages in those days.

It's the perpetual victim narrative.

Indeed !
I have young children but I'm not a young mum , and I would certainly not describe my family as being a young family.

You are making value judgements about other’s maturity many years ago based on knowing nothing about them at all. I’m not sure you are qualified to do so even after knowing and interacting extensively with someone, but you certainly aren’t qualified to make this judgement over the internet.

Based on that, one might understand why you say you were still a child at age 20.

Can you read? 😂 That's like me saying it's true that men are 5m tall on average just because someone acknowledged that men are bigger than women.

Not value judgment – basic biological fact... You seem to be very keen on cherry picking/distorting biology when it suits you.

No one except you and a few troll posters in your fantasy worlds think "many" 19 year old women are more mature than 30+ year old men.

Also, I don't think it's bad to possess an age appropriate level of maturity, so again it's not a value judgment.

Perhaps this is about you feeling defensive about your own choices as a pseudo child bride or something weird like that lol

I really love how you try to save face once you can't find a way to disagree with the obvious!

You seem rather obsessed with both of us, actually.

🤣🤣🤣 save face !!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now who's talking rubbish 🤣🤣🤣

That last bit was a really fucked up to say. You work with children? Sheesh. Give your head a wobble.

Being from a neuroscience + education background, people clinging tenaciously to their lack of biological understanding just really pisses me off. Off I go, leaving you to your own uninformed little theories about how the brain works...

Very masculine post

If a 19 year old student of mine got together with a 30+ year old man, in some (not "many" as you say) cases it might be an equal match, but in most cases adults around would be asking questions.

The 19 year old in that case invariably believes she is mature and feels very defensive.