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DrJoanAllenby · 2024-05-07T12:26:29+00:00

Guess who's back? Back again? Shady's back.... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13391363/prince-harry-arrives-uk-without-meghan-invictus-games-meet-king-charles.html

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/05/2024 21:35

Sillystrumpet · 07/05/2024 20:49

I also agree with this. There is clearly much much more going on behind the scenes than we know. It will have taken a lot for Charles to not see Harry. Christ he even saw him when he did that ridiculous trip when he announced his cancer. So it’s something recent.

i do wonder if it’s the Nigeria tour, Charles doesn’t wish that to be seen as royal in any way, and needs to make it clear this is a private visit. By not seeing Harry it reenforces they are on their own doing it.

Harry has had this date in the diary for a long time. It’s no surprise. If Charles had wished to see him he would have cleared some diary space. Plenty of notice, and Charles doesn’t work 24 hours in a day. He knows the optics around not seeing Harry . And staying silent as to why.

so it’s either about the international relations of having loose cannons, Harry and Megan doing a faux tour, or the pair of them are doing something else on top of this we don’t know about , and Charles has had to cut the chord. He’d never have done it lightly.

i do wonder what the Nigerians think about it. I suspect there is politics there that Megan and Harry have ignored. That’s why Nigeria wanted them, and the pair of them are so desperate they agreed.

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An insightful post, and yes, the question of what the hell's gone on behind the scenes occurred to me

We'll probably never know, but increasingly the message is being sent that "you're on your own", and for all the bluster I dread to think what this might be doing to Harry's mental state

AnnieSF · 07/05/2024 21:38

Lookingatthesunset · 07/05/2024 21:02

I think they are really stupid to go to Nigeria. It just seems so risky and for what? To make themselves look as if they are on a royal tour? To show how much better they can do it than everyone else?

Because they are desperate for limelight.

smilesy · 07/05/2024 21:42

IcedPurple · 07/05/2024 21:19

I don't think they're in the slightest bit concerned about appearing 'rude'. Not that it would be 'rude' to turn down an invitation to a very dangerous country, especially when you are parents of young children.

As for 'doing it well', I'm not so sure. Nigeria is a terrible choice for a faux royal tour, for all sorts of reasons. Official royal tours are planned months in advance, at the highest level. And even then things can go wrong, as we saw in the then Cambridges' Caribbean tour. They appear to have been invited by someone in the military, not the government, so there may not be high level diplomatic support on the Nigerian side. And as for the Sussexes, we know they have no sensitivity or awareness in these matters. It has potential to be a disaster.

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I think it’s symptomatic of their whole approach to everything they embark on. That they can somehow magically just “know” what to do. Like creating TV programmes, hosting podcasts and jam
making. They seem to think that just being “them” is enough to make them supremely capable experts. So they are embarking on quasi Royal tours as if it will all just fall in to place like it does in a Disney film

MacavitytheMystery · 07/05/2024 21:42

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/05/2024 21:35

An insightful post, and yes, the question of what the hell's gone on behind the scenes occurred to me

We'll probably never know, but increasingly the message is being sent that "you're on your own", and for all the bluster I dread to think what this might be doing to Harry's mental state

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He doesn’t appear to look bothered. In the past he showed his anger and upset clearly on his face. He actually looks pretty happy and relaxed these days. I find it hard to fathom.

MacavitytheMystery · 07/05/2024 21:44

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 07/05/2024 21:30

Good grief, blaming him for cancer is a bit much.

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There is a clear correlation between stress and cancer.

Noseyoldcow · 07/05/2024 21:45

"He doesn’t appear to look bothered. In the past he showed his anger and upset clearly on his face. He actually looks pretty happy and relaxed these days. I find it hard to fathom".
Could that be the wacky baccy?

MacavitytheMystery · 07/05/2024 21:46

Sillystrumpet · 07/05/2024 21:12

If you look at the foreign office travel advice for Nigeria, it is really very concerning, they are there for 5 days I think. Charles last went in 2018 and had to pull out of certain parts as it was so dangerous.

they have not said where they are going exactly, but even if they go to supposed safe areas it has to be a huge risk that some group may try to harm or kidnap them for leverage.

Nigeria travel risks

There is a Polo Club in Nigeria. Harry will make the most of that I’m sure.

MacavitytheMystery · 07/05/2024 21:47

Noseyoldcow · 07/05/2024 21:45

"He doesn’t appear to look bothered. In the past he showed his anger and upset clearly on his face. He actually looks pretty happy and relaxed these days. I find it hard to fathom".
Could that be the wacky baccy?

He’s been on that a while so I don’t think it’s just that. He seems genuinely oblivious to the sheer level of appalling betrayal he’s responsible for.

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 07/05/2024 21:49

MacavitytheMystery · 07/05/2024 21:44

There is a clear correlation between stress and cancer.

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Honestly. I think saying this is dreadful, especially about people you know nothing about apart from the claptrap you read in tabloids.

You just don't have grounds for it, no one on earth knows what impact X stress has on person Y.

Vespanest · 07/05/2024 21:50

Im actually angry about the Invictus statement and it is rewriting history to remove the UK involvement. That’s the royal family, the MOD, government, volunteers, charities such as help the heroes. Even before this the Sussex supporters were angry that the Uk was shortlisted and didn’t deserve Invictus. Is vile how those who built Invictus are being treated and that includes the UK tax paper.

mhmmmok · 07/05/2024 21:55

MacavitytheMystery · 07/05/2024 21:44

There is a clear correlation between stress and cancer.

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And it could equally be the water/chemicals in old royal residences (hence the double cancer diagnosis amongst its inhabitants), his family genetics, the stress of his own childhood or adulthood (including his betrothed young wife having violent outbursts and dying tragically, and him and his lover being vilified figures in the UK and worldwide for decades)... Honestly a spoilt runaway child is but 1 element that may or may not have factored in at all.

I also genuinely don't think Harry (and his statements) mean enough to Kate to have made her stress day and night over it to the point that she got cancer! The media (Waity Katey, nude pics, family defaming, etc) has definitely done worse to Kate than Harry over the years.

Not a Harry supporter by any means but it's just brainless and vicious to say Harry caused anyone cancer.

Bookworm1111 · 07/05/2024 22:14

so it’s either about the international relations of having loose cannons, Harry and Megan doing a faux tour, or the pair of them are doing something else on top of this we don’t know about , and Charles has had to cut the chord. He’d never have done it lightly.

I think it's something else, something behind the scenes that has been the final straw. The King had made it clear he'd never shut the door on his youngest son, yet he's doing exactly that on this visit. He knows what people will read into them not meeting but clearly doesn't care. Big shift in optics.

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 07/05/2024 22:18

Vespanest · 07/05/2024 21:50

Im actually angry about the Invictus statement and it is rewriting history to remove the UK involvement. That’s the royal family, the MOD, government, volunteers, charities such as help the heroes. Even before this the Sussex supporters were angry that the Uk was shortlisted and didn’t deserve Invictus. Is vile how those who built Invictus are being treated and that includes the UK tax paper.

I agree. Invictus is losing every shred of credibility putting out statements like this. It's very much in the vein of Harry and Meghanisms - all about being the "victim" and battling heroically against the odds. That is not the story of the Invictus Games at all, quite the opposite, in fact.

StarryBook · 07/05/2024 22:19

I’m in Australia and every now and then on the news there is an update about the royals and the royal rift. I don’t mind hearing about Harry and his beautiful family. It would be great to see him and his brother reunite though.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/05/2024 22:32

Bookworm1111 · 07/05/2024 22:14

so it’s either about the international relations of having loose cannons, Harry and Megan doing a faux tour, or the pair of them are doing something else on top of this we don’t know about , and Charles has had to cut the chord. He’d never have done it lightly.

I think it's something else, something behind the scenes that has been the final straw. The King had made it clear he'd never shut the door on his youngest son, yet he's doing exactly that on this visit. He knows what people will read into them not meeting but clearly doesn't care. Big shift in optics.

I think it’s to do with money . Obviously I don’t know but it’s clear their income sources are drying up and they have a very expensive lifestyle.

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 22:33

Vespanest · 07/05/2024 21:50

Im actually angry about the Invictus statement and it is rewriting history to remove the UK involvement. That’s the royal family, the MOD, government, volunteers, charities such as help the heroes. Even before this the Sussex supporters were angry that the Uk was shortlisted and didn’t deserve Invictus. Is vile how those who built Invictus are being treated and that includes the UK tax paper.

Excellent points.
More dishonesty from Harry.

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 22:34

Mylovelygreendress · 07/05/2024 22:32

I think it’s to do with money . Obviously I don’t know but it’s clear their income sources are drying up and they have a very expensive lifestyle.

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Do you think Harry was trying to get more credit from the Bank of Pa?
It wouldn't surprise me.

Lookingatthesunset · 07/05/2024 22:35

mhmmmok · 07/05/2024 21:55

And it could equally be the water/chemicals in old royal residences (hence the double cancer diagnosis amongst its inhabitants), his family genetics, the stress of his own childhood or adulthood (including his betrothed young wife having violent outbursts and dying tragically, and him and his lover being vilified figures in the UK and worldwide for decades)... Honestly a spoilt runaway child is but 1 element that may or may not have factored in at all.

I also genuinely don't think Harry (and his statements) mean enough to Kate to have made her stress day and night over it to the point that she got cancer! The media (Waity Katey, nude pics, family defaming, etc) has definitely done worse to Kate than Harry over the years.

Not a Harry supporter by any means but it's just brainless and vicious to say Harry caused anyone cancer.

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I hardly think so - there's not been a lot of cancer in the royal line other than smokers.

MacavitytheMystery · 07/05/2024 22:35

Bookworm1111 · 07/05/2024 22:14

so it’s either about the international relations of having loose cannons, Harry and Megan doing a faux tour, or the pair of them are doing something else on top of this we don’t know about , and Charles has had to cut the chord. He’d never have done it lightly.

I think it's something else, something behind the scenes that has been the final straw. The King had made it clear he'd never shut the door on his youngest son, yet he's doing exactly that on this visit. He knows what people will read into them not meeting but clearly doesn't care. Big shift in optics.

I think that cancer has clarified their thinking. I suspect Camilla had been doing some stern talking to Charles . Also that Charles is very upset to see Kate ill and distressed . They probably all just want some peace and quiet now.

MacavitytheMystery · 07/05/2024 22:37

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 22:34

Do you think Harry was trying to get more credit from the Bank of Pa?
It wouldn't surprise me.

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I think they also all know that they need to work really hard on the image of the RF since the Queens death. There has been so much negative publicity, including Andrew’s shenanigans that they are working very hard in their PR. Harry’s negativity and loose tongue is a liability.

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 22:39

True, he is a liability. They just need to focus on their work now and just ignore the silly attention seeking duo.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/05/2024 22:41

IsoldeWagner · 07/05/2024 22:34

Do you think Harry was trying to get more credit from the Bank of Pa?
It wouldn't surprise me.

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I think it is definitely a possibility . KC knows how it will look that he isn’t meeting with his son given that Harry’s visit was announced ages ago but clearly isn’t concerned about optics. It’s quite a shift as I am sure he loves Harry but I suppose everyone has their boundaries.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 07/05/2024 22:44

Vespanest · 07/05/2024 21:50

Im actually angry about the Invictus statement and it is rewriting history to remove the UK involvement. That’s the royal family, the MOD, government, volunteers, charities such as help the heroes. Even before this the Sussex supporters were angry that the Uk was shortlisted and didn’t deserve Invictus. Is vile how those who built Invictus are being treated and that includes the UK tax paper.

I agree it’s disgraceful.

FloofyBear · 07/05/2024 22:48

Vespanest · 07/05/2024 19:54

Why don’t those who support Harry actually listen when Harry speaks. Harry wants a relationship with his father, just as he wants a relationship with his brother. How do we know that? he bloody well told us so in another airing of his families business in Canada.

The hilarious thing is though that he, PH, wants an apology for him and his puppet master wife 🤣🤣🤣 hilarious ... after all their bile and odiousness behaviours and lies ... sounds like that 'no' is also a complete sentence in the Palace too ... or perhaps it was 'that doesn't work for us' 🤣

StartupRepair · 07/05/2024 22:50

If they had met Harry would start the Nigerian tour with reference to it. I bring greetings from the King. Or My father was reminiscing about his time here. He would have instantly used it to give legitimacy to his trip.