Guess who's back?

[DrJoanAllenby]

Guess who's back? Back again?
Shady's back....

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13391363/prince-harry-arrives-uk-without-meghan-invictus-games-meet-king-charles.html

I genuinely think Charles has been advised not to see him to avoid any kind of association or perceived endorsement of the Nigeria trip.

The Queen and Charles have always viewed the duty of the monarchy as highly important, so yes I can see Charle concerned with meeting Harry, the Canada interview would not have helped. It really doesn’t matter what is said in any meeting just the fact they are in the same room will lead to speculation on what was said. With supporters believing/denying rumours depending if it suits their narrative. There is no trust, I’d of been pretty pissed with Canada, even Harry spokesman, it would have been so easy to say “private family business”.

I've not clicked on the Mail link, but does anyone know if this "spokesman" has been named?

Because unless it's been made up that does seem a bit of a snub ... Harry was practically down the road FGS, and of course Charles could have seen him if he'd wished to

I imagine the feelings of Camilla, W&K may have been a consideration too

Edited to add I'd certainly hope so, given the way Harry's gone after all three, and as remarked before I'd expect William to have more say in what happens as he moves closer to the throne himself

I think the poster who mentioned the possible diplomatic fallout is right. Foreign royal visits are carefully managed with the government as royal figures are acting on behalf of our head of state. Harry could easily say the wrong thing I don’t get the impression he’s careful with his words and it is not in the country’s interest to have his Nigerian visit be seen as quasi official.

The spokesman has not been named, but it’s in the Telegraph and on the BBC as well so presumably it’s legit

Talks behind the scenes I suspect between the King and the government.

and yes as a pp said you reap what you sow.

That's a really good point. Last time he saw his father, for all of 12 -40 minutes depending on sources, he then proceeded to both blab about it to GMA, and also to hold a meeting with First Nation tribe representatives, putatively representing that he was talking on behalf of his father. I doubt Charles wants there to be any room for an impression that he has been given consent to make similar overtures/promises to Nigeria.

Many thanks, @smilesy - so it looks as if it's right and Harry really has been snubbed
I'd wonder if he'll examine what his own behaviour may have contributed to this, but there probably isn't much point

Yes he’s an absolute liability. Not to be trusted for a second.

There was a little snippet in the Times yesterday saying the King had no meeting with Harry in the diary. You just wouldn’t, would you?

I just read the full statement from Harry.

What a nasty little shit he is.

I’m sure he has had many inquiries about the African Parks scandal,the racist jibes, along with lots of speculation, far more than the inquiries about a possible meeting with his father I would imagine. Yet he has never felt the need to issue a statement to address those inquiries or speculation, funny that !! Another attempt at purposely trying to undermine and insult his father.

“In response to the many inquiries and continued speculation on whether or not The Duke will meet with his father while in the UK this week, it unfortunately will not be possible due to His Majesty’s full programme,” a spokesperson for the Duke of Sussex said in a statement shared with HuffPost on Tuesday.”

So Harry drops in and expects his family to be available when it suits, life just doesn’t work like that. Especially when trust has gone. Very sad situation.

Imagine only having a dad and a brother, and for both of them to allow it to be known by all and sundry that they don't want to see you, meet with you, talk to you. And for your extended family to follow suit.

Imagine you also have a spouse and two young children, none of whom have a relationship with any family members at all (bar your MIL).

Then imagine you live in a foreign country, thousands of miles away from your home, in a hugely different culture, away from all your points of reference.

Now add on financial pressures, a huge public profile, years of historic resentment and bitterness and anger, apparent mental health issues, and the need to earn lots of money when you're a public laughing stock.

There's no way Harry can be a happy chap, and there's no way that can't be felt by the people he lives with. That Montecito mansion must reverberate with the sounds of unhappiness, other than the children obvs.

Where did he say that? Or you read that?

I doubt there are too many private jets sitting on the tarmac in Nigeria, especially as you need a heavy duty model for a trans Atlantic flight. So a suitable jet would probably need to be flown in, at massive expense on top of the vast amounts it would cost to fly to California. That's not even getting into the environmental cost for the Duke of Travalyst.

Why can't they fly commercial? They aren't Heads of State or anything close. Harry presumably flew commercial to London today.

Are you psychic? Harry is the hateful one, and I am glad his family are giving him the cold shoulder because it's what he deserves.

Which hateful people?

Why would you want or need to imagine what they look like?

Why it is important what they look like?

Are you suggesting that people whose views you don't agree with must look really sickening?

Probably sees dead people too.

I’m sure he has had many inquiries about the African Parks scandal,the racist jibes, along with lots of speculation, far more than the inquiries about a possible meeting with his father I would imagine. Yet he has never felt the need to issue a statement to address those inquiries or speculation, funny that !!

Exactly. That's why I don't agree with those who say 'He was asked for a comment so of course he has to say something'. No he doesn't. The royals don't usually comment on private family affairs and Harry could do the same if he wanted. But he doesn't want.

I agree that this is clearly a snub. His father is the King. He could always find a way to see him. Equally, of course, Harry has very little going on in California and jets across the Atlantic at the drop of a hat, so if he really wanted to see his family, he could coordinate in advance and find a suitable time to visit. But for fairly obvious reasons, I think nobody wants to be in a room alone with him. Can you blame them?

Send him to Rwanda.

I suspect that the King would have seen him, but Harry was demanding a one to one, and no-one will see him alone.

I read today that the King and the Wales family are very aware of the impact that stress has on the body, and feel that the way H & M have behaved may have contributed to the current ill health of the King and Catherine.

All dysfunctional families are alike in many ways. But only in this case do so many people feel qualified to make judgements about them.

This, and past performance (blabbing to an American network interviewer about his 12 minutes with HM last time he was in London) is probably why Charles isn't (allowed to?) meet with Harry:

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry and his wife, Meghan, have agreed to visit Nigeria at the invitation of the country’s Chief of Defence Staff, Gen. Christopher Musa.

British High Commissioner in Nigeria, Dr Richard Montgomerry, disclosed this in an interview with the News Agency of Nigeria in the course of his courtesy visit to the Managing Director of the agency, Malam Ali M. Ali, in Abuja.

He said, “It’s great that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are visiting Nigeria, which I understand is at the invitation of Defence Headquarters.

“But they are visiting in a private capacity, not an official one.

“So, the British High Commission is not involved in arranging or facilitating their programme.

“They are not representing the work of His Majesty’s Government on this visit.”

https://punchng.com/prince-harry-meghan-accept-invitation-to-visit-nigeria/#google_vignette