Guess who's back?

[DrJoanAllenby]

Guess who's back? Back again?
Shady's back....

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13391363/prince-harry-arrives-uk-without-meghan-invictus-games-meet-king-charles.html

Have you got a source for that? I like to read things for myself ...

@SluggyMuggy

I’m not terribly interested in your personal opinion about anyone. Even less so someone calling women on the internet misogynist based on a post or two. That’s rather old hat here on the RFF.

Unlike what you’ve indicated, I’m also not depressed by strangers comments on the internet. Perhaps work on your own resilience.

By the way, many including me find you judging Diana’s capability to make life decisions 40+ years ago based on her age and sex truly misogynistic. Where you even alive then?

Have I missed something, where was the vile misogynistic joke?

Me too and asked earlier but nothing so far .

Tactics haven’t changed. My bingo card is filling up again here.

I think the vile misogynistic joke is that Diana was too young and dumb to enter into a marriage. Should have been protected. Was a victim.

I highly doubt she’d appreciate that attitude if she were alive today.

I wasn’t a child at 19. Were you?

I know it was reported the Spencer aunts were at Lilibet's christening, but it's never been confirmed.

H&M apparently stayed with Eugenie and her husband in Portugal a few months ago.

It's never been reported that H&M have socialised with Beatrice and her husband, or certainly not that I've ever read. Only Eugenie & her husband.

The last I read was that Doria's extended family were reported as saying they had never met Harry, I've never seen it reported they've met them.

They're close to Meghan's niece again, she featured in the NF documentary.

And as for the comment that H&M didn't control the guest list at the wedding - absolutely not true. It's been credibly reported several times that the Palace queried several times why only Doria was invited and not other family members too. There was quotes about how the Palace thought it would be better that Family were invited - easier to control/manage if they were close at hand. The Queen is quoted as asking why Meghan didn't just fly over to speak to her father when news of the row broke out, instead of just phoning/texting. Again, the Palace felt he would be easier to manage & control the Press narrative if he was there.

Let's not rewrite history here.

No @AliceOlive , I wasn't! In fact I was practically parenting my two much younger sisters at age 16 , at age 18 supporting an abusive man by working and paying the rent while he sat on his ass!
Definitely not a child!

Quite. I’m also interested to know which of Doria’s family have ever met Harry and what the source is for this claim.

I haven't read your earlier conversation but... Not by 12 bloody years unless Diana was some kind of genius megatron reading self-help at 4 years old 😂 it certainly doesn't sound like it – if anything she sounded more emotionally volatile and immature than most of her peers.

You'd be happy for your 19 y/o daughter to get with a 30 year old bloke I suppose

Oh god so you would actually be happy for your 19 year old DD to marry a 30+ year old man (for the primary purpose of breeding his heir as well)?

Well it's in the past now but clearly Diana's parents were totally fine with it 🤷‍♀️

I would imagine they were ecstatic at the time!

If I had been blessed, I would expect a daughter of mine to have the gumption to pull out of a wedding that they felt uncomfortable with.

It was not unknown in my family history for the husband to be at least 10 years older than his bride.

Her family was fine with it. Even when she expressed doubts and wanted to pull out.

It would appear she knew her own mind. But was told it was too late.

By her family.

Why didn't M visit her dad after the wedding? They seemed to have a decent enough relationship before that. I do recall reading that H was getting sick of Charles asking him why M couldn't just go see her dad and I don't blame him.
I remember when my brother got married, the only family on his wife's side at the wedding was her parents and her sister. No aunts, uncles or cousins. Her parents weren't on speaking terms with anyone. We later learned SIL wasn't into 'family'. I believe M was that kind of person.

Funnily enough Diana's mother ended up living on Seil island in the NW of Scotland. Connections? Woo?

If you want to make this personal, let’s do then. If you are a woman and above the age of 20, do you feel you were a child at 20 and unable to make decisions? Do you regret your decisions at that age? Would you like them rehashed on the internet 40 years later by people with no social or historical context?

Her father was ill and partially disabled following a stroke, it was touch and go as to whether he would get down the aisle. He had made no secret to his children that his greatest wish was for one of them to marry Charles, it doesn't take the wit of man to work out why an affection starved teenager who had known since birth that she was only born because the male child the year before died should seek to fulfil that dream, especially as he had cheated death only a couple of years before. The children hated Raine (although of course Sarah's husband was Raines nephew) who excluded them, in their eyes, from their fathers life and from Althorp, this was a way back into his life. Dianas mother was horrified but lived in Australia at the time, and frankly her mother and Charles' grandmother cooked it up between them .People forget as well that Charles was still grieving for Mountbatten who I suspect would have been much more savvy about the danger posed by and for Diana.

So you’d respect your adult daughter’s ability to make choices?!

Are these “Diana was a mere child” the same posters that feel like Meghan, in her late 30s wasn’t wise enough or prepared to marry Harry? The ones that call her a young mother. Then call me a misogynist?! I can’t stop laughing.

I agree with this.

Charles Spencer’s behaviour at her funeral in front of her sons was unforgivable

Good point ! 👍

Did he tell you that?!

I would respect a daughter’s decision Alice

I would also listen if they came to me asking for help.

I would also laugh my arse off at someone being described as a young bride/mother in their late 30s.

I think the suggestion is more based around the fact that the are STILL crowing and taking sides to stick it to the Royals. From what I understand the boys barely knew Charles Spencer before the funeral and his silly promises to steal them off their family (after he himself didn’t help his sister) didn’t come to fruition