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The royal family

Guess who's back?

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DrJoanAllenby · 07/05/2024 13:26

Guess who's back? Back again?
Shady's back....

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13391363/prince-harry-arrives-uk-without-meghan-invictus-games-meet-king-charles.html

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Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:06

mhmmmok · 08/05/2024 00:37

You would know wouldn't you 🙄🤣

I do actually. It's a matter of public record!

SluggyMuggy · 08/05/2024 16:07

@BemusedAmerican Maybe William did give his payout to his foundation, I have not read that though. When I googled all the articles said the amount had not been disclosed. Do you have a link confirming what you have posted?

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:10

LBFseBrom · 08/05/2024 05:50

Harry does not think Charles or Kate are racist, he has great love for both and has expressed that. The way he spoke about his father in 'Spare' (which I am sure you have read), was extremely moving. He is not responsible for a misprint in a book written by somebody else and published in another country.

Don't be silly - of course he's responsible - who else told Scrotie?!

SluggyMuggy · 08/05/2024 16:14

@Puzzledandpissedoff
"They do, @SluggyMuggy; as mentioned Invictus isn't the only military charity, and the late Queen was the patron of SSAFA (don't know if they've replaced her with Charles yet) and Prince Michael of Kent their president"

Yes Queen Elizabeth and Prince Michael of Kent support SSAFA. But Queen Elizabeth died in 2022 and has not been replaced.
William and Charles only attended Invictus when Harry was a working member of the Royal Family. Since Harry left the Royal Family have boycotted anything to do with the games.
If Cleverley's bid was successful and Invictus was brought to England, would members of the Royal Family even attend? Or would they discover a co0nvenient diary clash?

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:20

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 08/05/2024 08:13

Surely Prince Andrew has ruined our reputation by being a paedophile?

Do you have evidence to support your allegation? AFAIK he has not been found guilty of anything. His accuser was 17 at the time she alleged he had sex with her. 17 isn't paedophile territory. And it's got nothing to do with Meghan and Harry either.

Sageyboots · 08/05/2024 16:23

As Invictus grows into a more global org, it does run the risk of losing its peaceful/restorative aims and becoming a proxy for other political tensions around the world (even Eurovision has suffered elements of that) Will Russian and Ukrainian veterans be competing against each other down the line for example?

in a perfect world we wouldn’t need armed forces, or certainly not ones involving personnel in active combat receiving life changing injuries. In some ways it would be good if invictus didn’t have the means to grow - if that meant the world was a more peaceful place.

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:28

YesIknowIcare · 08/05/2024 12:01

Harry outed their poor treatment of Meghan and racism on TV - he was never gonna be liked again.

It's an unusual level of pettiness for a whole king and future king and their families to leak stories to the British press about another family member to score points.

They probably have multiple secret social media accounts following only Meghan and Harry while on bedrest.

"poor treatment" my arse!

Can you be more specific about what the King and the Prince of Wales have leaked to the press though, because I've not seen any of that? I think you will find it's only Harry and Meghan who are doing it!!!

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:29

YesIknowIcare · 08/05/2024 12:11

@Sillystrumpet They are all the same. Kate lied about a flufling picture.

Edited

Wise up!

ajandjjmum · 08/05/2024 16:31

She didn't lie - she immediately confirmed that she'd tweaked it as soon as it was questioned. I just don't understand why it is/was such a big deal - the majority of photographs are modified before being published in my experience.

SluggyMuggy · 08/05/2024 16:33

@Lookingatthesunset Bloody hell!! You are defending Prince Andrew and spreading misinformation.
Prince Andrew was accused of raping a sex trafficked teenager. That is illegal. She did not just accuse him of sex with a 17 year old.
Prince Andrew fought the case every step of the way, including giving that TV interview where he clearly lied his head off.
Prince Andrew then settled the case out of court giving an alleged £20 million.
He clearly is guilty as sin.

SluggyMuggy · 08/05/2024 16:34

That is a new low on MN. Defending Prince Andrew.

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:37

YesIknowIcare · 08/05/2024 12:17

@smilesy colonial English.

An entire monarchy making its existence about proving it can survive and is bigger than 1 family member who left - is in itself their obsession with Harry and Meghan's influence more than about "duty".

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Struggling to understand this but I doubt anyone is obsessed with Meghan and Harry. Other way round maybe.

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Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:38

YesIknowIcare · 08/05/2024 12:28

@smilesy No one had empathy for Meghan - Kate enjoyed publicity generated by a false and leaked story about Meghan during her wedding. Her husband invaded Meghan's personal space over a silly argument - of course Meghan deserves it? Or they lied - William would never - it was said.

You question whether I believe Harry - who believes the Royal family

Delusional.

SluggyMuggy · 08/05/2024 16:43

@BemusedAmerican The £1 million was the amount in the Foundation earmarked for Invictus. Several projects were under the umbrella of the Foundation, so this was simply separating it out.
We have no idea how much William was given by Murdoch. It was described as a substantial sum And we have no idea what he did with it.

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:44

SluggyMuggy · 08/05/2024 13:18

It was covered in some of the media trials. Stories that could only have come from the Palace. Read about the trials.

What, the one where Meghan had to admit she lied about Scrotie? Or another one. That's not true.

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:45

YesIknowIcare · 08/05/2024 12:35

@Mylovelygreendress
Just this morning's royal report on DailyMail was mocking Harry - you know but you are gaslighting.

That's no surprise - everyone's mocking Harry because he's an arsehole.

YesIknowIcare · 08/05/2024 16:48

@Lookingatthesunset Alright Lee

Abouttimeforanamechange · 08/05/2024 16:48

Invictus isn't the only military charity, and the late Queen was the patron of SSAFA (don't know if they've replaced her with Charles yet) and Prince Michael of Kent their president

The King is Patron of the Royal British Legion, which is probably the premier charity in the UK supporting veterans. He is also Patron of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, which does so much to maintain the memory of those killed in war.

BemusedAmerican · 08/05/2024 16:52

@SluggyMuggy I remember Harry was supposed to donate money to Sentebale and Wellchild:
https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-book-how-much-money-will-he-make-charity-donations/

Can you confirm that these donations took place?

Can you also give me a reason as to why Archewell isn't more transparent?
https://www.charitywatch.org/charity-donating-articles/archewell-foundation-charitywatch-rating

Considering the crap Prince William had to go through with the phone hacking, I don't blame him if he used the settlement on something fun. It was his money rewarded for his pain and suffering, from Murdoch. Not taxpayer funded.

How Much Money Will Prince Harry Make from His Upcoming Book?

Prince Harry plans to make donations to charities with the proceeds from his upcoming book Spare

https://people.com/royals/prince-harry-book-how-much-money-will-he-make-charity-donations

SluggyMuggy · 08/05/2024 16:54

@BemusedAmerican why are you asking me those questions?
Do you mistakenly think I am a fan and am here to defend Harry?
I know there are plenty of posters on here who defend the Royal Family no matter what. But please do not mistake me for someone with a similar approach.

Lookingatthesunset · 08/05/2024 16:54

Sageandparsley7654 · 08/05/2024 14:50

Seriously?

Members of my family serve so happy to answer this.

No, I don’t think Edward does as he dropped out of his Royal Marines training having only completed one third of the course. Absolutely no shame on him as it is an extremely hard thing to do, and a lot of pressure as his Cambridge place depended on it, but I don’t think he deserves medals for other things no because he never passed his final training. Funnily enough, he still ended up going to Cambridge.

Andrew did serve but I agree with other senior navy and forces members who urged that Andrew should lose his military titles. I believe more than 150 ex-Royal Navy, RAF and Army personnel even wrote to the late Queen to say the duke’s position was ‘untenable’. So no I don’t think he should be parading about with medals on either, or parading about at all actually after indulging in behaviour “non becoming”.

William and Harry very much deserve to wear their medals.

Charles did reasonably well in the navy by all accounts and was described as “personable and hard-working” but he did leave the navy three months after a serious gaffe which took place when he was in charge of HMS Bronington. He had a good service record on previous ships so who knows whether he was at fault or not but he received criticism from his superiors for the incident. It’s unclear whether he was meant to leave at that time or not. So yes he can wear his medals but that’s not to say he didn’t receive preferential treatment.

Princess Anne is not on your list but hasn’t served but still parades in uniform with a shoulder full of medals for honorary roles. She was made Admiral in 2012. In 2020, she was also made a General in the British Army and an Air Chief Marshal in the Royal Air Force.

She may well do an excellent job with great aplomb and had great fun leaping on and off horses during the Coronation - all marvellous you might say - but she is essentially wearing a costume. I doubt she feels remotely ashamed about it though as she doesn’t strike me as the reflective type. And the country never questions it!

Similarly, how must Edward feel when lined up alongside real soldiers? He looks to
me as if he suffers with a conscience but who knows.

It’s all so fundamentally unfair. That’s my main onjection.

No one can tell if Charles and Andrew deserved to reached the positions they did in the Navy on merit or because of their family. Which is bad for them as well as us. I think we can guess whether or not they made it to Oxbridge on merit.

Your question encapsulates exactly what I detest most about the monarchy MrsFinkelstein that they assume our respect for reasons based on artifice not merit. And they require jewels, tiaras, elaborate robes, gold carriages even fake military uniforms in some cases to suspend the disbelief!

It’s profoundly unfair on the ordinary bright young man from Preston who is ambitious to work his way up to Air Vice Marshall on merit alone. Ditto the young woman from an average comprehensive school in Walsall who couldn’t get an Oxbridge place because a Royal had taken it. Even if an extra space had been created for a Prince, what message does this send out to young people today?

That the greatest privileges are bestowed on those who are rich and of high rank?

That life is unfair and you had better get used to it now?

And most people on here, by supporting the RF, are also cheering on this fundamental inequity.

Well I think you can stop worrying on that score, because none of the next generation of royals went to Oxbridge. I don't believe Andrew went to uni at all, nor Anne.

The wearing of uniforms and medals by members of the royal family who haven't served in the Forces is purely symbolic.

upinaballoon · 08/05/2024 16:55

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/05/2024 14:56

I think it's today they're having the 10 year commemorative service at St Paul's?

Thanks, Smilesy and Puzzled. Now I know why I couldn't find it yet! 5 p.m. , 6 minutes to Go.

BemusedAmerican · 08/05/2024 16:59

Actually, I'm just curious about whether Harry followed through on his donations.

If someone gave me a large payment from hacking my phone, I'd go on vacation and redo my kitchen.

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