Guess who's back?

[DrJoanAllenby]

Guess who's back? Back again?
Shady's back....

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13391363/prince-harry-arrives-uk-without-meghan-invictus-games-meet-king-charles.html

Yes, large scale studies, CRUK are reporting on the findings. They are not a little charity, they really are leading experts in cancer research.

Alternative therapists, however helpful to individual clients, just don't compare in terms of scientific data.

Stress is so widespread, as is cancer.

The whole point about Invictus in the past few years, is that it has sadly become the Harry and Meghan sideshow. Even down to his first public outing with her when they were just going out together, that was one way to overshadow the games itself

Harry legitimately should be leading it, so it's hard to understand why Meghan is so often at the forefront. As his wife she should definitely be there supporting him, but her participation is on a whole different level to being supportive and proud of her husband.

Add to that how she emasculates Harry, pushing him out of the way when he inadvertently goes to greet someone before her, or if he walks ahead of her, pulling him back, and then he cringingly jumps out of her path. Elbowing him out of the way, or pushing him and gesturing him to do something, as if she is guiding a reluctant teenager to the stage, mic or whatever. It gives a terrible image and it is understandable they both get ridiculed.

Instead of Harry having her doing the full roadshow with him, she should step back and allow him to take the lead again, I am sure that is what the veterans will want.

The Vets have been totally overshadowed by H&M claiming front stage, even the fact she has chosen to not attend this Invictus event is another power play.

I can totally understand why the Royal Family have stayed away from this Invictus event. Invictus is heading towards becoming a very hot potato, particularly with the questions around their funding and expenditure and now with them accepting hospitality, on behalf of Invictus, from what is a corrupt military who are closely linked to Russia and China.

Thedom

I can totally understand why the Royal Family have stayed away from this Invictus event. Invictus is heading towards becoming a very hot potato, particularly with the questions around their funding and expenditure and now with them accepting hospitality, on behalf of Invictus, from what is a corrupt military who are closely linked to Russia and China.

I agree with this. With the visit to Nigeria, Invictus is straying into contentious territory and the Royal Family are right not to have associations with it. Any support, even just showing up to an event, would be seen as approval.

As his wife she should definitely be there supporting him

Even if it involves travelling to another continent without their young children?

I don't necessarily think she 'should' be there, any more than any woman has to 'support' her husband on his work trip.

No, I agree, I didnt mean I thought she she should be going on the roadshows with him, but showing up to the closing events at the games etc. is reasonable and I think would be normal, her involvement in her husbands charity is not normal.

I don’t mind if she comes back. I think it would be lovely for her children to meet their grandfather. My issue is that it seems to be ok and perfectly “safe” to go to any other country for a jolly, but it’s not “safe”to come to the UK for a service of thanksgiving for the same cause. I was wondering why that was. So your rather snidey comment was misplaced 😊

With the visit to Nigeria, Invictus is straying into contentious territory and the Royal Family are right not to have associations with it.

Exactly, and who knows if other countries may feel the pressure to distance themselves, at least at governmental level from Invictus.

@smilesy the issue is trust. The children's DGF doesn't trust his son. That's the bottom line.

It probably really hurts that he doesn't see Harry's children but Charles is not prepared to risk ANY information getting to the press.

The security issues are a lot of nonsense. If Charles wanted to see Harry and the kids he'd cough up the money to cover the security costs. He's not exactly short of a Bob or two

Harry legitimately should be leading it, so it's hard to understand why Meghan is so often at the forefront

Would you want to be the one trying to stop her, @Thedom?

Right from the start I've wanted Invictus to be a success way above anything else they've done, but it's undeniable that it's getting bogged down in questions and being the "H&M show", so hopefully there are wiser heads who'll be capable of steering it in a better direction

Harry outed their poor treatment of Meghan and racism on TV - he was never gonna be liked again.

It's an unusual level of pettiness for a whole king and future king and their families to leak stories to the British press about another family member to score points.

They probably have multiple secret social media accounts following only Meghan and Harry while on bedrest.

I think if the royals got involved with invictus it would blur the lines too much on Harry and Megan not being working royals. And also due to the behaviour of Harry and Megan make them look weak/. To be supporting someone who attacked them. As that would be the optics, supporting Harry and Megan and not the invictus cause.

its now though straying into dodgey territory as a pp said,,because harry and Megan are not simply doing what’s right for the games, but what benefits them, as it’s all they have , so they are using it to benefit them,and boost their very tarnished profile.

Surely you don’t just take what Harry says as the whole truth?

Harry wants Special Protection security to be provided, and that is not within the Kings ability to grant. It has nothing to do with cost, It is decided by RAVEC with whom Harry is in a court dispute. The King cannot buy this type of security. I appreciate that there is also an issue of trust, but that is irrelevant to Harry’s claim that he and his family are not safe in the UK

edited to add this should have been linked to @Needanewname42 post above but it didn’t work 😆

@Sillystrumpet They are all the same. Kate lied about a flufling picture.

A whole king? Hmmm

@smilesy colonial English.

An entire monarchy making its existence about proving it can survive and is bigger than 1 family member who left - is in itself their obsession with Harry and Meghan's influence more than about "duty".

She edited a pic as she has cancer. Have some empathy.

Ah ok. But don’t think you wouldn’t want to trust someone who reported your last private encounter to them to the media almost immediately afterwards? Someone who is making a quasi Royal tour of a commonwealth nation which is bound to be linked to the monarchy if the king meets with him before he goes there? And as for outing racism, Harry has rowed back on that claim

edited typo, and also to add that the post I quoted has been considerably added to since I quoted it

What stories did they leak ?

@smilesy No one had empathy for Meghan - Kate enjoyed publicity generated by a false and leaked story about Meghan during her wedding. Her husband invaded Meghan's personal space over a silly argument - of course Meghan deserves it? Or they lied - William would never - it was said.

You question whether I believe Harry - who believes the Royal family

Eh?

Harry is a member of the royal family.

It's the one and only reason you or anyone else cares about him and his wife.

@Mylovelygreendress
Just this morning's royal report on DailyMail was mocking Harry - you know but you are gaslighting.

@IcedPurple same goes for all of them.

So Harry and his wife are no better then?

Just two unexceptional individuals who nobody would care about if it weren't for whom they married or were born to?