Nigeria?

[MaturingCheeseball]

Can this be true? That Harry and Meghan are off on a “royal” trip to Nigeria? What’s the game now? My head is spinning!

it will stay with Harry, then maybes his kids. It’s now his,not the royal families. Harry is not doing amything with it as a working royal and none of the actual royals have anything to do with it. It is Harry as a private citizen. The royals do nothing with it,

I agree that the IG are no longer a 'royal' charity. I don't think any royals will want anything to do with it. I'm also not sure what the future holds for it in general. As a poster said above, they've made some highly questionable choices with some of the armies they've chosen to welcome into the organisation.

Much as we may roll our eyes at Harry, he is the only reason most people know about the IG. It's a pretty niche sort of thing really, though I'm not sure Meghan quite gets that.

Btw just looked back at the thread “Well done that man” about Heart of Invictus. What happened to all the sycophants declaring a sudden passion for disabled veterans?

@Freakinfraser My point is that Invictus doesn’t “belong” to Harry and his family. Other patrons can be invited to serve and there are sometimes calls for patrons to step down-people were very vocal about Prince Andrew, for example!

I don’t think Harry should step down as Founding Patron, but someone else could also be asked to become a patron -doesn’t have to be a Royal, could be anyone.

@IcedPurple I don’t disagree with you, he’s done a great job raising awareness and if he continues to do that, all good.

I can’t tell if the very experienced CEO and CCO were replaced, or whether this means Harry is in charge.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12746905/amp/Prince-Harrys-Invictus-Games-thrown-chaos-TWO-chiefs-sacked-insiders-warn-staff-morale-time-low-claim-event-budget-despite-30m-government-grant.html

Ah, have answered my own question, new CEO appointed in February.

True success would mean it doesn’t need an attending patron, the warrior games is not about the founder and certainly not about the founders married partners wardrobe (I don’t blame Meghan for that). If Harry did have an Andrew type scandal the invictus games should be able to override the scandal, if it can’t then it’s really not achieving its aim of championing veterans. Comments such as “Harry is invictus” is not the win people think it is.

@Vespanest

If Harry did have an Andrew type scandal the invictus games should be able to override the scandal, if it can’t then it’s really not achieving its aim of championing veterans. Comments such as “Harry is invictus” is not the win people think it is.

Very much agree with that…as you say the Warrior Games, which really started all this, manages to function without blowing smoke up the founder’s backside.

Invictus shouldn’t need Harry..the question is does Harry need Invictus?

How is Invictus funded?

Staging the games is expensive, and I doubt they break even. Then there's all the cost of flying the 'Founding Patron' and his expensively dressed wife around in private jets.

I daresay Colombia and Nigeria come with deep pockets.

It's a mystery 😆

How is Invictus funded?

They seem to have ATCO and Boeing as sponsors for Whistler, had the initial grant from the Royal Foundation and apparently don't raise money among the public, but other than that I don't know

Harry hasn't disclosed if and how much he's paid for his work with them; conversely it was said that fees from the Netflix docs would be given to Invictus, but I'm not aware of any proof this happened

Invictus Charity Commission listing here: https://register-of-charities.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regId=1159482&subId=0

A few weeks ago someone sniffly said that certain posters ( Sussex supporters) were absent as they were enjoying the good weather .
It’s pissing down here !

Harry is going because Nigerian veterans competed in Invictus. He has been invited by the Defence Department so the security will be top notch. Harry will meet veterans. It is about ensuring continuing support from veterans around the world for Invictus.
Nigeria may say they want to hold the Invictus games in the future, but that is not why Harry is going.

Yes, I remember now the Chairman of Boeing gave a speech at the opening of the last games, which didn't go down well with some.

So basically its main funders seem to be major corporations, some who profit from war. Is it really a 'charity' as most of us would understand it?

I imagine Harry isn't 'paid' as such but gets very generous 'expenses'. And I'm not sure what they meant about 'fees' for the IG documentary as it will have been part of their production deal with Netflix, so they won't have received any 'fees' directly.

And I do wonder quite what is motivating this trip to Nigeria. I can't see it hosting the IG any time soon, given how dangerous it is to visit.

Corporations often fund larger charities. Look at Breast Cancer UK.

The Nigeria trip shows the case why IPP is incompatible, should any incident happen I can guarantee the King and not the home office will be accused of endangering Harry but if he had the security that he had in Canada there is a strong possibility the trip would be vetoed, when there would be complaints of controlling.

There is also the real risk of Malaria to consider, along with the decision to take or not take anti malaria medication.

Having the IDF in Invictus may well attract some protests.

I also think it say something that the only royal news currently on the bbc news websites home page is Sophie Duchess of Edinburgh's trip to Ukraine

I think Sophie is a great asset to the RF and it's such a good cause/ agenda why's she's gone out there.

Just read the article on Sophie’s visit to Ukraine, she is such an asset to the Royal family, it was good to see she made the headlines, she is often overlooked, she really does such sterling work with regards to VAWG.

And the Colombian and Nigerian armies have been implicated in widespread corruption and extrajudicial killings.

All three were inducted into the happy Invictus family in 2022.

Sponsors for Invictus Vancouver 2025 are apparently ATCO energy and Boeing, both of which are not without their controversies and critics.

One of the Invictus 'partners' is Better Up, from whom Harry benefits financially as the paid 'CHIMPO'. Which is nice. For him.

Nigeria is such a corrupt country. It's hardly a political system to be seen hob nobbing with.

Queen Elizabeth visited Nigeria and "hobknobbed" there.

She had an official role to play as Queen and Head of the Commonwealth. She wasn't a private citizen.

What difference does that make? Either a country is okay to go to if invited by the government, or it is not.