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William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story

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WhatAreThey · 24/04/2024 12:27

In the audio, the journo explains what happened when she referred to Kate as being thin.
William rang Tatler and The Daily Mail, arranged lunch with them and his staff to plant stories.
Camilla's niece who works at Tatler helped him twisted the true position to be favourable to William and Kate.

She says no British print media is allowed to say anything negative about Kate or William. The negative stories must be about Harry and Meghan.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5jImF0sAfp/?igsh=MzRraTBxZDViNGRt

This is democracy in 21st century Britain.

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MummyJ12 · 28/04/2024 14:40

And posters only think that these discussions are reasonable and civilised when the discussion is going their way. Otherwise accusations of being goady are thrown. I’m not the one who has accused posters of behaving like sixth formers and saying they are no longer engaging but continue to do so but not constructively. It’s exhausting. Yes, please let’s just leave it. You can’t reason with the unreasonable.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:42

SuziQuinto · 28/04/2024 14:11

No. They left to make money.
Challenging racism, misogyny? She didn't.
Meghan loves the titles and the status! She'd no more challenge that than the late Queen.
She's a royal Duchess, a traditional home maker and literally a trophy wife, admired for her clothes..
That's it.

Meghan loves the titles and the status!

If that was true, why didn't they stay happily in the UK as part of the Royal Family?

ArcaneWireless · 28/04/2024 14:45
happy father ted GIF

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GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:46

😂
Ok 🤣

Serenster · 28/04/2024 14:47

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:42

Meghan loves the titles and the status!

If that was true, why didn't they stay happily in the UK as part of the Royal Family?

Because they wanted to carve out a progressive new role using their titles and status, and earn a private income off the back of them. Come now, they told us this themselves.

Mylovelygreendress · 28/04/2024 14:47

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:42

Meghan loves the titles and the status!

If that was true, why didn't they stay happily in the UK as part of the Royal Family?

Oh crikey , do we have to go over this again ??
They wanted to do half in half out. They wanted to pick and choose what royal duties they did and use their titles to make money . The late Queen said no . They flounced off planning to be mega stars , feted by A listers and politicians, slagged off the Royal family while insisting on titles for themselves and children .

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:48

Well, that cleared that up 🙄😂
Well put.
Father Jack on one of his drunken ",Arse! Feck! Girls!" rants would make more sense than these threads lol

ArcaneWireless · 28/04/2024 14:51
grow little shop of horrors GIF

mocking curtsey anyone?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:51

They wanted to do half in half out

That's not really answering what I asked though, is it?
Why would they want "out" if they were happy?
They'd have even more status actively in the Royal Family if that was all that was important to them.
There was clearly more to it to want to move abroad and also get away from the press Intrusion.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:54

Mylovelygreendress · 28/04/2024 14:47

Oh crikey , do we have to go over this again ??
They wanted to do half in half out. They wanted to pick and choose what royal duties they did and use their titles to make money . The late Queen said no . They flounced off planning to be mega stars , feted by A listers and politicians, slagged off the Royal family while insisting on titles for themselves and children .

Unless you're them, that's just pure speculation based on your bias and worldview.
None of us know, yet it's spouted as fact under the guise of literally nothing but what the tabloids have said and all of your gossip.

smilesy · 28/04/2024 15:00

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:51

They wanted to do half in half out

That's not really answering what I asked though, is it?
Why would they want "out" if they were happy?
They'd have even more status actively in the Royal Family if that was all that was important to them.
There was clearly more to it to want to move abroad and also get away from the press Intrusion.

If they really wanted out though, they would not use their titles left right and centre, which is what I think pp are alluding to. If remaining in the RF was so abhorrent to them, wouldn’t you think they would want to distance themselves as much as possible, including not constantly referring to themselves by their titles? And what’s with the quasi Royal visits and medal presentations etc?

Thedom · 28/04/2024 15:00

" because, surprise, surprise, being from a different country, racial background and culture, she didn’t see-eye-to-eye with an institution that is imho racist, misogynistic and lacking in transparency.”

Quite the myopic view. some would even say biased.

Mylovelygreendress · 28/04/2024 15:00

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:54

Unless you're them, that's just pure speculation based on your bias and worldview.
None of us know, yet it's spouted as fact under the guise of literally nothing but what the tabloids have said and all of your gossip.

Did you read their grandiose statement early Jan 2020 ? They made it clear what they wanted . Progressive new role . Collaborate with The Queen (!). Etc etc.
Since their flounce they have clearly tried to cultivate friendships with so called A listers .

Serenster · 28/04/2024 15:13

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:54

Unless you're them, that's just pure speculation based on your bias and worldview.
None of us know, yet it's spouted as fact under the guise of literally nothing but what the tabloids have said and all of your gossip.

Here is what they told us themselves, in their own words In January 2020, when the couple first made their public announcement on their website.

They definitely weren’t suggesting they were leaving their Royal roles. Rather, they announced that they had "made the choice to transition into a new working model”. Why did they want to do this? Because they don’t "benefit from their charitable and cause driven work” because "under the current structure and financing arrangements, they are prohibited from earning any income in any form”. The Sussexes however "value the ability to earn a professional income, which in the current structure they are prohibited from doing”. And so this is why they have chosen a new approach - it will "enable them to continue to carry out their duties for Her Majesty The Queen, while having the future financial autonomy to work externally”.

They also intended to proudly maximise the Queen’s legacy "by supporting their patronages and carrying out works for The Monarchy within the UK or abroad, as called upon".

Their plan, clearly set out in their own words, was give up receive "funding through the Sovereign Grant, thereby making them members of the Royal Family with financial independence” (the Sovereign Grant provided 5% of their funding needs, the other 95% coming from then-Prince Charles). Their intention therefore was to still be bankrolled by Prince Charles, but no longer be subject to the Nolan rules, which prohibit them from benefitting financially from their position. This, they described, would "carve out a progressive new role within this institution” while they "continue to collaborate with Her Majesty The Queen, The Prince of Wales, The Duke of Cambridge, and all relevant parties”.

They couldn’t have been clearer: they wanted to stay royal but make money based on their royal status. Once the Royal family made it very clear that this was not actual possible, and they had to choose to either be wholly in (and bound by the rules) or wholly out (and free from them), they went for the latter, as they obviously wanted the ability to earn money. Prince Harry made their position perfectly clear at his January 2020 speech at a Sentabale event: "Our hope was to continue serving the Queen, the Commonwealth, and my military associations, but without public funding. Unfortunately, that wasn’t possible”.

No speculation at all, you see. If you say otherwise you are the one ignoring what they clearly told us.

SuziQuinto · 28/04/2024 15:42

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:42

Meghan loves the titles and the status!

If that was true, why didn't they stay happily in the UK as part of the Royal Family?

Because it wasn't on their terms. It was an institution and you have to work within it.
They thought they could be big stars in the USA.
Royals, multimillionaire celebrities, a bit of light socialising and charity work, lots of expensive clothes.
Less effort. But very, very royal.

SuziQuinto · 28/04/2024 15:44

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:54

Unless you're them, that's just pure speculation based on your bias and worldview.
None of us know, yet it's spouted as fact under the guise of literally nothing but what the tabloids have said and all of your gossip.

No, some of it was in Spare, some in their many, many "interviews".
If you haven't read the one in The Cut, it's a cracker! 😂

SuziQuinto · 28/04/2024 15:45

Thank you, @Serenster .
Although, how many times must this be repeated?

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 28/04/2024 15:46

Serenster · 28/04/2024 15:13

Here is what they told us themselves, in their own words In January 2020, when the couple first made their public announcement on their website.

They definitely weren’t suggesting they were leaving their Royal roles. Rather, they announced that they had "made the choice to transition into a new working model”. Why did they want to do this? Because they don’t "benefit from their charitable and cause driven work” because "under the current structure and financing arrangements, they are prohibited from earning any income in any form”. The Sussexes however "value the ability to earn a professional income, which in the current structure they are prohibited from doing”. And so this is why they have chosen a new approach - it will "enable them to continue to carry out their duties for Her Majesty The Queen, while having the future financial autonomy to work externally”.

They also intended to proudly maximise the Queen’s legacy "by supporting their patronages and carrying out works for The Monarchy within the UK or abroad, as called upon".

Their plan, clearly set out in their own words, was give up receive "funding through the Sovereign Grant, thereby making them members of the Royal Family with financial independence” (the Sovereign Grant provided 5% of their funding needs, the other 95% coming from then-Prince Charles). Their intention therefore was to still be bankrolled by Prince Charles, but no longer be subject to the Nolan rules, which prohibit them from benefitting financially from their position. This, they described, would "carve out a progressive new role within this institution” while they "continue to collaborate with Her Majesty The Queen, The Prince of Wales, The Duke of Cambridge, and all relevant parties”.

They couldn’t have been clearer: they wanted to stay royal but make money based on their royal status. Once the Royal family made it very clear that this was not actual possible, and they had to choose to either be wholly in (and bound by the rules) or wholly out (and free from them), they went for the latter, as they obviously wanted the ability to earn money. Prince Harry made their position perfectly clear at his January 2020 speech at a Sentabale event: "Our hope was to continue serving the Queen, the Commonwealth, and my military associations, but without public funding. Unfortunately, that wasn’t possible”.

No speculation at all, you see. If you say otherwise you are the one ignoring what they clearly told us.

It’s as clear as day. They didn’t want to leave. They wanted the royalty shebang but on their terms. The whining came after they didn’t get their way.

SuziQuinto · 28/04/2024 15:47

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:54

Unless you're them, that's just pure speculation based on your bias and worldview.
None of us know, yet it's spouted as fact under the guise of literally nothing but what the tabloids have said and all of your gossip.

Read Serenster's post.
It's their words.

Mylovelygreendress · 28/04/2024 15:48

You put it much better than me @Serenster

!!

SuziQuinto · 28/04/2024 15:49

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 28/04/2024 14:51

They wanted to do half in half out

That's not really answering what I asked though, is it?
Why would they want "out" if they were happy?
They'd have even more status actively in the Royal Family if that was all that was important to them.
There was clearly more to it to want to move abroad and also get away from the press Intrusion.

Press intrusion?! They live for publicity!
Good grief, I know more about them than I really wanted to, and a good deal more.
This pair just have to be in the press. It's a constant scrabble for the pictures and the clicks.

SuziQuinto · 28/04/2024 15:51

I have no idea where this myth comes from that they in any way wanted to limit press intrusion or live privately or not as top notch royalty.
That's their raison d'etre.

MrsFinkelstein · 28/04/2024 16:00

I know the thread has moved on, but just to clarify.

William did speak out publicly to condemn the press intrusion Meghan was subject to.

In an unprecedented official public statement.

So, very much like how he condemned the false stories written by Tatler about his wife and her family (which is the subject of this thread). Seems pretty consistent to me.

William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story
William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story
MrsFinkelstein · 28/04/2024 16:02

Missed this one.

William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story
pilates · 28/04/2024 16:08

Thanks MrsF. So PW is not the big bad wolf some like to think he is.