William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story

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In the audio, the journo explains what happened when she referred to Kate as being thin.
William rang Tatler and The Daily Mail, arranged lunch with them and his staff to plant stories.
Camilla's niece who works at Tatler helped him twisted the true position to be favourable to William and Kate.

She says no British print media is allowed to say anything negative about Kate or William. The negative stories must be about Harry and Meghan.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5jImF0sAfp/?igsh=MzRraTBxZDViNGRt

This is democracy in 21st century Britain.

It's a real "I want cake and eat it" sort of attitude, isn't it. Every day there seems to be new cake and people willing to defend their hypocrisy.

Tumbleweed on the Sussex Squad question I see……typical.

But discuss people you don’t know, will never meet and who don’t know you. How can you ever say anything remotely informative or interesting about people you have never met. All you are doing is gossiping. Repeating things others have written or said, mainly made up stuff. Even when repeating whatever Harry said in his book (s?), it appears to have been decided that he wrote lies and only lies whereas third, fourth and fifth hand information is truth

If we never discussed people we didn't know and never met then public discourse would pretty much come to a screeching halt and sites like this would cease to exist. Not to mention every humanities department - 'you can't discuss and speculate about Shakespeare! you never met him!'

You're writing an essay on William of Normandy? You never met him!

Why not, at least discuss something that might make a difference to people such as Andrew being with minors and his mother accepting it. This is the ilk of the family you like to gossip about

What, you mean talking about people you've never met? isn't that gossip as well? or is it OK if you disapprove of the gossipees behaviour? because that's the subtext I'm getting.

Gossip is just a reflection of empty minds and is not a positive attribute so why do it

And yet here you are...

Heard he was a real bastard, though. 😂

Absolutely!

Well it depends on whether those established institutions are worthy of our trust doesn’t it?

And I hope that all of the above applies to the RF too.

The institution of the monarchy does more than seek to influence the public, it reinforces a class system and an honours system that sustains privilege and nepotism and undermines our entire social structure.

Full marks! Although also skilled in battle, master of the feudal system and a bit lucky.
A lucky bastard!
(nb none of this from the Daily Mail)

'Gossip is just a reflection of empty minds and is not a positive attribute so why do it.'

@Remembermetoonewholivedthere
Your last sentence - H&M are fully participating partners in that.

But nice to his mum and loved his wife. Shame about the harrying of the north but no-one's perfect.

Oops, we're gossiping. Naughty.

No it doesn't depend on anything. Freedom of thought and speech and criticism is freedom for all, not the select few that you or anyone else decides is trustworthy. You don't get to choose who is critiqued and who is not because of your concept of trustworthiness. Nobody is stopping you or anybody criticising the RF. Criticise away. Expect to be challenged if you are saying things that are factually inaccurate or if people disagree with you.

Ah the old “ what about Andrew” ! This used to be trotted out frequently by a now silent poster whenever anyone criticised the sainted duo in Montecito.
The fact is that 99% of people think that Andrew is a thoroughly unpleasant , arrogant sleaze so not much to debate ! There have been numerous threads saying the same thing - he is despicable.

Ah the old “ what about Andrew” ! This used to be trotted out frequently by a now silent poster whenever anyone criticised the sainted duo in Montecito

Had me feeling quite nostalgic, that did. What happened to those commenters, I wonder?

Or possibly not so silent poster - just a thought😊

I never understood that

If Ngozi Fulani was telling the truth about what was said it was such an obvious offence that I can see no reason for an effective "she didn't mean it"
And why did Harry take it upon himself to declare this - aren't we supposed to take the lead from PoC themselves as to what's racist and what's not?

There has to be more to this story, but what it is may never be known

Oh the irony of being reminded about freedom of speech, thought and criticism in this context 😃😃
when anyone who dares to criticise the RF on this forum is subject to repeated challenges ad infinitum until they virtually no longer post! We’re quite used to it thanks!

It’s the monarchy, not our democracy

That's been obvious for a while, Stormzy - some of the writing styles are very distinctive - but given the more deranged posts when Kate was missing it's hardly surprising if some want to avoid being linked to them

What I don't understand is the pure naked rancour directed at Harry and Meghan.

@Remembermetoonewholivedthere I didn’t post on these threads for a long time because it started to feel like Groundhog Day. I for one find it really frustrating when some posters will be very vocal and provocative about what they want to discuss and only about what they want to discuss regardless of the thread and ongoing discussion. Yet when asked about something else, very relevant like the Sussex Squad, there’s silence and avoidance. It’s just not constructive and it’s conspicuous.

@Puzzledandpissedoff 👍🏻easy to change name not so easy to change posting style.

Not rancour, naked or clothed. Criticism and challenge of statements and behaviour.
People have provided evidence, many a time and oft.

Yes but some intense strength of feeling is apparent.