William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story

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In the audio, the journo explains what happened when she referred to Kate as being thin.
William rang Tatler and The Daily Mail, arranged lunch with them and his staff to plant stories.
Camilla's niece who works at Tatler helped him twisted the true position to be favourable to William and Kate.

She says no British print media is allowed to say anything negative about Kate or William. The negative stories must be about Harry and Meghan.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5jImF0sAfp/?igsh=MzRraTBxZDViNGRt

This is democracy in 21st century Britain.

I would if I had any, but my parents, my in-laws and most of my aunts and uncles (none of whom ever expressed any racist views btw) are sadly now dead.

Now that is going way, way too far!!!

I’m confused. In your last post you said that if you did have an elderly relative that was racist, you would let them ramble on and accept it. In this post you are saying that if you did have an elderly relative that was racist, that you would discuss iwith them that their views are unacceptable and why.

So which would it be with this hypothetical relative because you have contradicted yourself.

Well it clearly doesn't matter as I don't have any such relative!!

I'm confused as to why you keep holding me to account?

Yes I thought it was a rather extreme response @Runnerinthenight a huge amount of projection aimed at me, deeply unpleasant.

It makes no sense. You contradicted yourself completely so I asked why?

I don't recall aiming anything at you. I think we have been pretty much in agreement. It's late, and I am tired, so I apologise if you felt anything was aimed at you.

To summarise - Meghan and Harry have aimed shit at the RF for the last several years. They have undertaken multiple failed projects. They have had fallout with many former friends, and both of them are estranged from their families. I think that says it all.

I think you need some sleep @Runnerinthenight! I was responding to your comment when you were shocked at what a poster said to me! they called me very unpleasant things. Nothing you said upset me at all, we are in agreement on this thread!

I’d ask for that to be removed if I was you @Devonisheaven. I’ve reported it because I thought it crossed a line.

Thank you @WaitUpForMe and yet the poster still continues.

I’m very sorry to hear sbout your sister.

To accuse the pp as being like the bullies who killed your sister is not ok.

Take care of yourself and step away from the thread if necessary.

Absolutely agree with you doubleshotcappuccino; it’s pretty obvious what is happening, and outside of the RF pages on Mumsnet, I agree it’s beginning to have the reverse consequence than intended!

People aren’t stupid. They are beginning to realise what goes on behind the scenes.

Distancing by harping om?
I've seen photos of the kids, including a special one of Princess Lilibet on her birthday, in the garden, and both on the Netflix films.
Prince and Princess.

The rest of the RF don't slag others off for money,vas a matter of course.
That's Harry's personal career choice.

not sure how you got the sussexes from that, I don’t mind Meghan, but yes I dislike Harry. He’s a hypocritical tosspot. He choose to put all this crap out there, I’m not saying anything he’s not said himself.

Oh come on, I think it’s clear that the RF, who already have pots of money, use press and establishment ”friends” to slag others off.

Who is 'they'?

And what did 'they' do?

The leaks on Harry and Meghan haven’t stopped since they left, in fact I’d say they are worse than ever. So whose leaking on them now, the palace know naff all. It’s not as if we don’t know that they use “sources” to put information out. I’m still never sure what stories are supposedly planted by the palace that did not have numerous other witnesses.

They make Netflix series, publish books, go on Oprah and do magazine interviews about how shit Harry and Meghan are, do they? Coin it in, do they?
There's a poster (Puzzled?) who has collated evidence about how much protection and support H&M got. It's more persuasive than vague accusations.

I tend agree also. The King was on the front of most papers yesterday - returning to his duties. Have quickly scanned the board and I don't see any comments about this. Are folk bothered at all. Yet there are 10 threads on Harry and Meghan. Why? They aren't Royalty anymore.

Such a good post that I'm bumping it again.

Using the actions of previous generations as a stick to beat the current generation is pointless. Most decent people acknowledge and accept that awful things happened in the past, things that they will have likely benefited from, however, to expect more than this ie.individuals making reparations, is completely unrealistic. It's history, we learn and hopefully move on.

People can though acknowledge and help change the present. If we take slavery as an example, whilst we are here talking about what happened in the past this is still very much going on in our present:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/jan/16/governments-faili-modern-slavery-theresa-may-wef-davos

Princess Eugenie has done some good work on this.

The evidence is his own book. Harry admitted that his staff members "slumped across their desks and wept", more than once. People can like Harry and Meghan and still admit that clearly there was something wrong there.

I see both sides on the racism. Anyone denying that Meghan went through racism is just in denial. There are clearly proofs on the Internet.

I understand people feel like the RF should've spoke up more for Meghan, sure. I also felt that way. They did statements to deny some ridiculous stories about her, though as we've seen with KateGate, the palace cannot control social media, which is where Meghan gets most of the hate, in my opinion

Yet, I understand why they didn't in a way. Before 2018-2019, Harry was the most popular member of the RF (or maybe 2nd after the Queen), people forget that William and Kate were the ones constantly getting bad press (though they kept quiet hence why people think like it wasn't that bad). The press were brutal: they constantly talked about her weight, she got criticised for breaking tradition and not getting pregnant in her first year of marriage, the backlash for their expensive home renovations, paparazzis stalking baby George, accusations of feud with other royal ladies, revelations that her phone had been hacked 155 times, the sex shaming after her topless scandal, the nurse committing suicide after a prank and some people blaming her, she was even accused of funding terrorism once.

Yet, Harry didn't once speak up to defend Kate. He can't go on national TV, saying that silence is betrayal when he's never spoke up for anyone in the past.

I actually was mostly Team Harry and Meghan until his interview with Tom Bradby.
To hear him blame the media and accuse them of calling the RF family with that weird smirk afterwards was exactly when I realised that this man is, excuse my French, full of sh*t.

I'm French and British but the child of an African dad and a Caribbean mother and I defended them so much after the Oprah interview. I felt so bad for them (I still do) but to throw an accusation like that and take it back 2 years later is disgusting. Meghan clearly said the word "concerns".

Harry also told Oprah off camera that he wanted to make sure that the public knew that neither Queen Elizabeth nor Prince Philip made the comment so he knew exactly what would happen and what people would think.

At this point, sadly, I think they will never reconcile. I can just wish peace and happiness to all of them (except Andrew). I don't hate H&M nor do I hate the RF (except Andrew) but the media needs to let it go. I honestly think both sides have moved on but the media needs this feud to continue for clicks and money which is why they continue to write about Meghan constantly. Unfortunately, the supporters are not helping