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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 17/04/2024 20:36

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As I said I rarely say anything about him. However, I saw this as great news for the Harry as he loves the USA, and his new family is there. Therefore I wish him all of the best

Your comments. If I felt as strongly as you do I would not have degraded myself by saying what you have said. There was no need for it. I dont have time for Harry but he does not deserve what you have posted

I have no time for him and I'm certain he does not for me, but I do wish him luck

Thank you

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Corinthiana · 17/04/2024 20:37

BemusedAmerican · 17/04/2024 20:34

For a true American citizen, the title would mean nothing. We are not a perfect country but the Constitution deserves to be honored.

I agree. There is no perfect country. I think those comments upthread about how awful England/the English are precipitated the reposts about his choice of domicile.
Nonetheless, the USA has a Constitution, which should be respected. If you move to live in a country you should respect the laws and political framework.

QueenMeghan · 17/04/2024 20:38

Well said @DistinguishedSocialCommentator

Nono22972 · 17/04/2024 20:41

Why is this news? Harry has left over 4 years ago. Hope he has found peace and happiness

Can people not learn from their past mistakes?

People absolutely can but with Harry, it feels disingenuous. He clearly acknowledges his mistakes then tries to blame other people for them.

BigAnne · 17/04/2024 20:46

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 17/04/2024 20:36

As I said I rarely say anything about him. However, I saw this as great news for the Harry as he loves the USA, and his new family is there. Therefore I wish him all of the best

Your comments. If I felt as strongly as you do I would not have degraded myself by saying what you have said. There was no need for it. I dont have time for Harry but he does not deserve what you have posted

I have no time for him and I'm certain he does not for me, but I do wish him luck

Thank you

He doesn't have time for you because he doesn't know you exist

Thedom · 17/04/2024 20:48

Corinthiana · 17/04/2024 19:31

Do you think he'll be allowed anywhere near the jam?

Rumours are the reason for the labels on the jam not sticking properly is because Harry got to the glue first.

CathyorClaire · 17/04/2024 20:56

his children will be free of the scrutiny of little englanders and their racist bigoted brexit minded prejudices.

Given they're never seen I'd say they already are.

Geebray · 17/04/2024 20:57

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/04/2024 19:05

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, are you trying to say he's whiny?! 😁
And that his wife's whiny as well?
What do you think they whine about?
The press?
Good if so. Get them called out, shouldn't have to put up and shut up.
Also do you see the irony of whining on the internet about strangers you don't know whining?
The word whine has now lost all meaning 😁

Have you read his book? It's one long whine. Except for when he's singing to seals.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/04/2024 21:13

Geebray · 17/04/2024 20:57

Have you read his book? It's one long whine. Except for when he's singing to seals.

Yes, I have read his book.
Have you?

Mylovelygreendress · 17/04/2024 21:27

Doubtisthemaster · 17/04/2024 20:13

Good on harry, I don't blame him for making a decision that will benefit both himself and his family. I cannot imagine living the way the royals have to live and don't envy them one bit. He's broken free, a very brave move.

He didn’t want to break free . He wanted half in , half out . He wanted to retain titles , status, security and high profile events while using said titles to make money . He only “ broke free” when he was told no . Until he was told no , he was quite happy living the way the Royals live.

IDespairOfTheHumanRace · 17/04/2024 21:30

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CurlewKate · 17/04/2024 21:38

", it's nothing to do with racism and I hate that everyone who objects to her gets tarred with that brush! "

The glorious irony of this statement!🤣🤣

cerisepanther73 · 17/04/2024 22:12

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator

I think 🤔 the think is Meghan Harry's wife was quite dismissive and patronising about British etiquette in regard of how to greet her husband's famous grandmother,

All countries have customs and different cultral etiquette codes,
Some quirkier than others admittedly,

Which is Disrespectful can be percieved as being Disrespectful whilst having no issue problems enjoying all the perks and privileges going associated with marrying into privileged background of adopted country of UK

Can't have your cake and eat,

Then she claims that a certain member of Royal family had issues with her then born baby cultral identity,

then later on changed their minds about this,

When she someone is expecting a baby sometimes or occasionally or whatever might wonder which side of families they make take after,
I wonder what eye 👁 colour or hair colour ect
they may take after,

All the sudden this becomes a racial bias slur,

Prince Harry and her Meghan like to raise awareness about certain issues such as envoriment ect

However if anyone points out their lifestyles etc,is in contrast to this therefore hypocritical

"They are accussed of being a raging racist"

People can cope with any criticism at all

They are just over privileged Snow ❄️ flakes in reality,

They want a quiet normal life like everyone else with all the wealth and privileges that can open massively all the most privileged doors going for sure,

As long as its on their terms as much as possible

"Life just isn't like that."

BemusedAmerican · 17/04/2024 22:18

I read "Spare". Meghan was actually the person who sang to the seals. They were later told that by doing so, she was luring the seals in to their deaths from lurking killer whales.

He kind of glossed over that part.

LumiB · 17/04/2024 22:29

Mylovelygreendress · 17/04/2024 21:27

He didn’t want to break free . He wanted half in , half out . He wanted to retain titles , status, security and high profile events while using said titles to make money . He only “ broke free” when he was told no . Until he was told no , he was quite happy living the way the Royals live.

I think the royals should go out an earn there own money instead of taxpayers funding them. I don't care if they use titles they give themselves (not like we vote who gets one) as they are born into them.

I actually thought it refreshing they wanted to earn their own money.

AccountCreateUsername · 17/04/2024 22:33

I absolutely love how Harry is taking on The Sun. I think that takes some bravery and integrity. News Group have spent over £1 billion settling phone hacking cases so far…

Mylovelygreendress · 17/04/2024 22:49

LumiB · 17/04/2024 22:29

I think the royals should go out an earn there own money instead of taxpayers funding them. I don't care if they use titles they give themselves (not like we vote who gets one) as they are born into them.

I actually thought it refreshing they wanted to earn their own money.

They wanted to earn money but they didn’t want to support themselves ! They still wanted taxpayer funded security for example .
How is that refreshing ?

AssignedUnimportantAtBirth · 17/04/2024 22:49

Corinthiana · 17/04/2024 20:09

@BemusedAmerican - how come Meghan and the children have titles then? They must be US citizens?

I think it works like this:

Meghan only derives her titles from Harry. She doesn't hold them independently of him. If Harry becomes a US citizen, he must give up his titles to do so. Therefore, Meghan's titles also must fall away.

Archie and Lily derive their titles from their grandfather, King Charles. Harry losing his titles should not affect their titles.

However, if Archie is not a US citizen, being British born, and needs to become one, he should have to give up his title to do so.

Whereas Lily was born in the US. So doesn't need to give up her titles as she was born a US citizen.

I think that's how it works. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will come along and correct me if I'm wrong.

Vespanest · 17/04/2024 23:00

Meghans would be interesting, both Diana and Sarah kept titles after divorce, so I’m not sure Harry renouncing his would automatically remove hers. I’d assume she’d want to, as to avoid the awkwardness.

LumiB · 17/04/2024 23:01

Mylovelygreendress · 17/04/2024 22:49

They wanted to earn money but they didn’t want to support themselves ! They still wanted taxpayer funded security for example .
How is that refreshing ?

How do you know they still wanted security funded have they said that themselves or is it an assumption.

But hey if thats all we paid for is security and they funded everything else from their trips to clothes etc then it's still better than funding them entirely.

mathanxiety · 17/04/2024 23:36

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BackToWhereItAllBegan · 17/04/2024 23:44

I'm fairly certain Archie will have had US citizenship from birth as Meghan is a US citizen and had lived in the US for long enough (I think it's 5 years) to be able to pass it on to her child born abroad.
If Harry becomes a US citizen then he will legally have to give up any titles from a foreign government received prior to acquiring citizenship. Of course, he can still market himself commercially as Prince Harry but couldn't use his titles on legal US documents.
Meghan was already a US citizen when she was awarded her title so I assume she can keep it in the event of a divorce but, just like Harry, she can call herself whatever she wants commercially (and already uses an incorrect form of her title to no consequence!)

AliceOlive · 18/04/2024 02:01

BemusedAmerican · 17/04/2024 22:18

I read "Spare". Meghan was actually the person who sang to the seals. They were later told that by doing so, she was luring the seals in to their deaths from lurking killer whales.

He kind of glossed over that part.

Is this a metaphor?

AutumnCrow · 18/04/2024 02:46

I sometimes feel some confusion about the difference between UK titles and royal 'styles', and which is which.

The official UK Parliament website linked to below gives the details, but here's an excerpt:

'In general terms, “title” refers to the position someone holds, for example “King of the United Kingdom”, while “style” concerns how they are described, for example “His Majesty”.

'Proclamations issued under various Acts of Parliament changed the Monarch’s title to reflect changes in the UK’s territorial constitution, for example the unions between England and Scotland in 1707 and between Great Britain and Ireland in 1800. A proclamation issued in 1876 added “Empress of India” to Queen Victoria’s title, while in 1917 King George V relinquished his German titles, also via proclamation.'

Where that would leave the Sussex family in the US as individuals, I haven't a clue, as they left their 'HRH' styles behind by agreement when they left the UK, but retained the rest that are derived from and granted by Harry's deceased forebears and his living father, and maintained by the UK Parliament. Throw this into the US constitution ... and out comes what? A chameleon or a chimera?

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/the-kings-style-and-titles-in-the-uk-and-the-commonwealth/#:~:text=Modern%20history%20of%20royal%20titles,for%20example%20%E2%80%9CHis%20Majesty%E2%80%9D.

BemusedAmerican · 18/04/2024 03:18

@AliceOlive I finally read Spare last week - checked it out of the library. The story about the seals occurred when they visited the Castle of Mey. Harry viewed it as a sign of how even seals loved Meghan. My reaction was that she was a like a siren but he was too besotted to realize it. Life imitating art?

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