Goodbye dear Harry

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I rarely post about him, never mind starting thread.However, the good news needs to be shared.

Good luck and good bye!!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13319663/prince-harry-lists-primary-residence-time.html

All these people are hypocrites:

-The Squad/Royal fans: Cry about their idols being abused and trolled yet have no problem doing the same thing and make up conspiracy theories about the other side

Also, it's funny how so many people claim to hate Kate/William or Harry/Meghan yet can't stop thinking or talking about them

Those claiming to call out the British media, at the end of the day, you're still giving them attention and clicks.

Most of the general public in the UK have moved on from the H&M vs RF saga. Unless you're a supporter of one side, no one cares anymore.
H&M do not make the cover of the main publications here all the time. If you're complaining about the press, that means you're actively going online to news publications sites and searching for news about Meghan yourself.

And if you hate Kate, why are you talking about her everyday, her marriage,... Some Meghan and Harry have a weird obsession with Kate being in an abused, unhappy marriage and being cast aside for another woman. Very weird

Harry/Meghan: He complained that no one did anything to protect Meghan. Silence is betrayal, right?! I guess he forgot that when his popularity was at its peak, in early the 2010s-2017, Kate and William but especially Kate were constantly getting criticised by the press (some was deserved).
Did Harry ever defend Kate when the media kept wondering why she didn't get pregnant in her first year of marriage, when it was revealed that her phone was hacked 155 times, when the paparazzis were stalking baby George,... He said nothing

And I think he's also very manipulative. I saw that with the racism row.
We all heard the allegations during the Oprah interview. Two years after that, Harry comes out with "We never called them racists. The British press said that".
He told Oprah after the interview that he wanted the public to know that neither Queen Elizabeth nor Prince Philip made the comment so he knew how people would react. After the Oprah interview, his family, especially Kate and William, were attacked, received death threats and that interview was the catalyst of all the vitriol that we've seen from the Squad.

Kate/William: They definitely could've said something to support Meghan, considering Kate was harassed by the media for years.
Harry said that he didn't tell them about Meghan's suicidal thoughts and they couldn't do anything about social media trolls but they clearly saw that the media was being nasty towards her. I understand the rule is to never release statements. Hell, they barely released statements for Kate but it could've been handled better though I think a statement from the Queen herself would've been more impactful

William did release a statement thoughSee here. As for the Queen, she didn’t issue a statement when anyone else was subjected to press or other harassment, so I’m not sure why she would make an exception for Meghan 🤷‍♀️

I disagree as I'm now a fan of our King, his wife, William and family.
The rest of them, fair enough

@GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight "What 🤣
She's responsible for clearing up the world's poverty now?! 😂"

Didn't she cause global warming or modern slavery or something by eating avocados?
If only she'd use her powers for good......

I know, exactly.
Terrible.

The sarcasm of the comment made sense in context of the post that it was referencing. Point being that H&M very much do want to remain Royal, so should be considered as just as responsible for poverty while engaging in conspicuous consumption as anyone else in the RF.

I note that it is also a past time to read this forum, complain about the discussion, then participate in the discussion.

StarsHideYourFir3s · Today 09:04
Thedom · Today 08:15

What evidence do you have that she’s a very unpleasant person

A huge amount of people. who watched their S. Africa interview, their Netflix show, listened to her podcast, read her interviews, came away with that impression.

She certainly came across as very unpleasant, mean and self obsessed, quite unlikeable.
I didn't. I would be interested to hear which parts/things she said made her come across as unpleasant.

You have to be joking! The number of times all this has been said...but, since you ask, here I go, not in any particular order:

The pathetic but appallingly spiteful lies which she uttered in the OW (interview (all since retracted by H, but the damage is done, not just to family members, but to the UK's image. Thanks, Meghan, after you had you £32m wedding bash at the UK's expense. Also snipes at Catherine.

Her sneering, exaggerated curtsey on the Neflix, where she has no clue about how horribly she is coming across and Harry just doesn't know where to look. She definitely showed us all who she is.

The fiasco in the Fiji market visit in which she drove her security officers to break down in tears.

The bullying of royal staff, about which the Queen had to intervene and tell her, "Meghan, we don't speak to people like in that way here".

The pass/agg scowling and snapping at the security officer who tried to help her (as was his job) by taking bouquets from her during the walkabout after the Queen's funeral.

Her constant pushing in front, clawing and pawing Harry, pulling him away from members of the public etc he's supposed to be talking to in an official role - just appalling rudeness and self-centredness all round.

She was so nasty to a footman at the wedding rehearsal that he refused to help her out of the car at the actual event.

Just a few! Not to mention using Scobie as a mouthpiece to air her all-consuming jealousy of Catherine at one remove.

Meghan is a piece of work - how can you not see that?

Inote that it is also a past time to read this forum, complain about the discussion, then participate in the discussion

Yes, reading MN forums is a pastime (a bad habit one but meh 😁)
Can people not join in if they don't agree with you and have a different view?
Sounds a bit echo chambery.

Recollections do indeed vary. It seems mainly that they blame family members for not supporting Meghan in the way that a spouse should do.

Harry should have:
-Asked if Meghan was ok
-Gotten MH support for his suicidal wife
-Told the media to back off
-Insisted had access to her keys/passport
-Explained letters patent
-Told her his family was not racist

He didn’t do these things and left her struggling, then blamed it on everyone but himself.

They can and do join in. You have. Did you want me to ignore your posts or only agree with them?

Her sneering, exaggerated curtsey on the Neflix, where she has no clue about how horribly she is coming across and Harry just doesn't know where to look. She definitely showed us all who she is

See, this just shows to me you see what you want to see.
It's a mindset.
I saw that Netflix programme. She did nothing of the sort
I saw someone who was being a bit self deprecating about herself, it's something I'd be like when talking.
Taking the piss out of herself.
Can't remember her exact words as it was a while ago I watched it but it was like " I'm like OMG what do I do, do I just courtesy like this" and then she did an exaggerated courtesy thing whilst laughing.
She wasn't "sneering" at all.
She was taking the piss out of herself.

I can't see the issue, he lives in the USA and has done for several years so he is resident there. I think the stranger thing is if he was saying he was resident in the UK when he was living in the USA or does resident have some complicated meaning in law and isn't just where you live?

Harry should have

-Asked if Meghan was ok
-Gotten MH support for his suicidal wife
-Told the media to back off

He moved her out of here, to the US to get her away from the media.
To start a new life for them.

"Should have told the media to back off"
Sorry, but are you having a laugh?! ,😁

"Can you leave us alone? Back off a bit?
Go away"

Yeah, that's always going to work lol.
I'm sure if it was that easy for them to leave you alone people would have done that by now.

She described it as being like a super tacky US chain called Medieval Times. By no stretch was she simply making fun of herself.

"Inote that it is also a past time to read this forum, complain about the discussion, then participate in the discussion"
I enjoy reading the discussion and occasionally joining in because I love gossip. And I love seeing how far people can be taken in by opposing PR machines.

@CoffeeCantata's post is a perfect case in point. To choose one example- the "exaggerated, sneering curtsey". Now, I haven't seen it, but I did read that it was her showing the difference between how she, as an American, perceived a court curtsey and what was actually expected of her. So. Who knows?

And incidentally, if it's true that some brattish behaviour made a security guard cry then may I respectfully suggest they are in the wrong job!

For the avoidance of doubt,bullying of anyone is reprehensible and unacceptable.

It’s Meghan’s lack of authenticity while claiming authenticity that drives much of the conversation here. There are so many examples but a few:

Claimed she knew nothing of the Royal family which was provably untrue.

Pretended as if she had no clue about how to curtesy when she’d done so as part of her Suits role.

Released her letter to her father to the press then sued the press for printing it.

Promotes anti-bullying while at least tacitly approving of the bullying of her family.

One can only expect so much benefit of doubt. She used up her quota about 4 years ago.

It is refreshing that they want to earn their own money.

It is arguable what kind of actions are acceptable to earn a crust though.

Some would say it is ok writing a book full of questionable truths. Some could say flogging merch is ok. Selling yourself to the highest bidder is ok in some circles I suppose.

But where does it stop?

The oldest profession? Hitman? Blackmailer? I’m sure they would excel. You never know what skills they have carried with them from previous professions.

But hey. As long as they want to earn their own money eh?

As for brave? There is nothing brave about blaming everyone for your supposed misfortune and taking no responsibility for your own part in it.

What about Uvalde? Turning up with a camera crew and looking at the shots they were getting. That was grief opportunism of the first degree.

If you are going to quote me please copy and paste rather than retyping. You’ve made some typos and omissions which makes me wary.

Their major complaint was that no one did these things, things that were Harry’s responsibility as a man and a husband. You’ll have to take it up with H&M if you want to understand how they think any of it might have worked. Since you believe it wouldn’t be effective, for example, to tell the media to back off, don’t you think it’s ridiculous for them the complain no one did it for them?

The fact that Harry did not recognize his own responsibilities makes it seem like he never grew up. Hopefully he has matured since then.

And the fascinating part is that Meghan thought no one would see it.

But where does it stop?

The oldest profession? Hitman? Blackmailer? I’m sure they would excel. You never know what skills they have carried with them from previous professions
But hey. As long as they want to earn their own money eh?.

What exactly are you trying to imply?
Why not just spit it out.
Why would they excel at being a hitman or a blackmailer due to their previous professions?!
How do you get to there from them producing some jam?!

As for the Queen, she didn’t issue a statement when anyone else was subjected to press or other harassment, so I’m not sure why she would make an exception for Meghan

Maybe to show that she's learned from the past: Diana was abused, Fergie was abused, Kate was abused, Beatrice and Eugenie were abused, Meghan was abused, Camilla was abused, even Prince Philip back in the day.

Clearly, there's a problem. Burying your hand in the sand and waiting for things to blow over is not the way to go. Many other royals around Europe have complained about the media: Princess Stephanie of Monaco, Princess Martha Louise. Didn’t Crown Princess Victoria have an eating disorder due to the media scrutiny? George, Charlotte and Louis are growing up. I'd hate for Charlotter Princes George and Louis' future partner to go through the same abuse.

The Queen was the most loved and respected member of the RF. Even a lot of anti monarchists that I know had some respect for her. A statement for her would've made a difference, in my opinion

I have spat it out.

Just like that dummy…

Pretended as if she had no clue about how to curtesy when she’d done so as part of her Suits role

Acting a part on a television show is hardly the same as meeting people and automatically knowing about all rheir traditions in real life and how to react.