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Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 19:07

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 18/04/2024 16:52

I'm no Royal fan but I honestly thought Harry had so much to offer and could have made such a difference to this outdated institution

He's left. Good on him. He doesn't owe Britain anything, maybe if the press weren't so vitriolic, he might have stayed, who knows?

Don't talk such utter bollocks. He left because he didn't get his own way!

Maybe if the pair of them behaved better the press would be less "vitriolic"? Is it "vitriolic" to report on facts?

Corinthiana · 19/04/2024 19:11

I suspect, @Runnerinthenight , that some people would think anything less than fan girling and sycophancy is "vitriolic".

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 19:17

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 18/04/2024 23:19

The Queen and Prince Charles always came across/still come across as incredibly unpleasant people but seem to be given a pass because they were born royal. Maybe there are different standards for royals 🤷‍♀️

I don't know where you dug that out of. Utter drivel!!

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 19:33

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 19:07

Don't talk such utter bollocks. He left because he didn't get his own way!

Maybe if the pair of them behaved better the press would be less "vitriolic"? Is it "vitriolic" to report on facts?

Oh give over, don't talk such bollocks.
You seriously think all the press does is report on facts?
They used to do.
Now half the time it's just trying to stoke up shit and tension.
Can't remember exact wording but these scenarios have happened.
Kate eats an avocado - healthy eating or some such bollocks
Meghan does it, silly bitch, contributing to global warming!
Kate caresses her pregnant bump - heartwarming, loving mum to be.
Meghan does it - attention seeking cow..

For the record, I have nothing against Kate before anyone starts, I think the whole debacle over harassing her not being seen in public for ages is stupid too. Just leave her alone.
Just think the whole hypocrisy is absolutely ridiculous as well, if you think the press only report facts and leave you alone well um... Ok.

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 19:50

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 19:33

Oh give over, don't talk such bollocks.
You seriously think all the press does is report on facts?
They used to do.
Now half the time it's just trying to stoke up shit and tension.
Can't remember exact wording but these scenarios have happened.
Kate eats an avocado - healthy eating or some such bollocks
Meghan does it, silly bitch, contributing to global warming!
Kate caresses her pregnant bump - heartwarming, loving mum to be.
Meghan does it - attention seeking cow..

For the record, I have nothing against Kate before anyone starts, I think the whole debacle over harassing her not being seen in public for ages is stupid too. Just leave her alone.
Just think the whole hypocrisy is absolutely ridiculous as well, if you think the press only report facts and leave you alone well um... Ok.

Give over and don't talk such bollocks yourself! They may publish opinion pieces which are often a load of shite but if they were continually printing downright lies, Harry would have even more cases on the go!!

I don't remember the avocado scenario but Kate caressed her bump while Meghan clung to it for sheer bloody death; you'd have thought she was trying to keep the baby in there!!

Mylovelygreendress · 19/04/2024 20:02

Runnerinthenight · 19/04/2024 19:07

Don't talk such utter bollocks. He left because he didn't get his own way!

Maybe if the pair of them behaved better the press would be less "vitriolic"? Is it "vitriolic" to report on facts?

Will just post this as a reminder ….

Goodbye dear Harry
GreekDogRescue · 19/04/2024 20:28

Vespanest · 17/04/2024 19:32

You have to hand it to Harry, displays actual racism numerous times and has somehow become the anti racism ambassador for some.

Exactly.
He has been reported for racism on so many occasions but somehow gets away with it. The Palace spin machine just allowed him to get away with it.
How did he ever got away with calling a fellow officer a Pxxx several times as well as boasting about his kill count.
To say nothing of his abuse of polo ponies 😨

Mylovelygreendress · 19/04/2024 20:30

Think I might have quoted the wrong person ( wine has been consumed….)

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:50

Exactly
He has been reported for racism on so many occasions but somehow gets away with it

When, recently?

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:56

How did he ever got away with calling a fellow officer a Pxxx several times

That was in his twenties and it was "the norm" in his circle and they all laughed (not that that ever makes it alright)
(I read Spare where he explains)
He said himself he was in a white dominated bubble that he never really appreciated before meeting Meghan
Should we forever be held to what shit we came out with at the age of 20 regardless of whether we grow as we get older?

BemusedAmerican · 20/04/2024 00:09

He's been living in an exclusive gated community in the US and dividing his time between the wealthy US polo communities and the wealthy Hollywood community. In other words, he has been living a more controlled and sheltered existence in the US than in the UK.

The only time anyone outside these exclusive communities hears him speak is on a terrible zoom call or one of his horrible, prewritten public speeches. Except for his very revealing comments in Spare ( which I actually read).

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 00:12

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:56

How did he ever got away with calling a fellow officer a Pxxx several times

That was in his twenties and it was "the norm" in his circle and they all laughed (not that that ever makes it alright)
(I read Spare where he explains)
He said himself he was in a white dominated bubble that he never really appreciated before meeting Meghan
Should we forever be held to what shit we came out with at the age of 20 regardless of whether we grow as we get older?

Go on, make all the excuses for him!

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 20/04/2024 00:46

Runnerinthenight · 20/04/2024 00:12

Go on, make all the excuses for him!

?!
😂
Can you not formulate a response though?

AliceOlive · 20/04/2024 02:56

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 20/04/2024 00:46

?!
😂
Can you not formulate a response though?

Perhaps you are new to this topic. These conversations have been done to death over years now. I don’t know if someone will come along with the patience to have them anew. You can take that however you like, but it’s not lack of a salient point.

Mylovelygreendress · 20/04/2024 07:02

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 19/04/2024 23:56

How did he ever got away with calling a fellow officer a Pxxx several times

That was in his twenties and it was "the norm" in his circle and they all laughed (not that that ever makes it alright)
(I read Spare where he explains)
He said himself he was in a white dominated bubble that he never really appreciated before meeting Meghan
Should we forever be held to what shit we came out with at the age of 20 regardless of whether we grow as we get older?

He was in his twenties so an adult who should have known better . You say it was the norm in his circle . Not sure how you know that but we are talking about the 21st century when it very much is not the norm to refer to people in such a way .

Corinthiana · 20/04/2024 07:13

If the excuse for Harry is that he was in "a white dominated bubble" then why is that excuse not available to others?
I seem to recall the very damning accusations of racism against the RF in general and Charles and Kate specifically. Harry was very content for those accusations to be broadcast and to stand.
The kindest thing I can say is that he has very little self awareness, nor consideration for others' reputation.

Vespanest · 20/04/2024 07:53

Personally the last time I found him racist was when he decided that what was said on Oprah was not racism but with him being the fount of all knowledge that is was actually “unconscious bias”. That Oprah, a black woman recoiled in horror at what was said, the Queen investigated and again it was the fault of the “nasty press” not Meghan that these rumours of racism got out. Even now after Scobie named the racist he remains quiet listening to shaggy “ it wasn’t me”. I don’t blame Meghan as it was “Harry told me”. He was yet again in the room and didn’t say anything, if he had it would have been in spare. His sister in law is abused daily as a racist purely from his actions.

Corinthiana · 20/04/2024 07:55

Good points, @Vespanest . He's behaved very badly throughout. Selfish, damaging and very unkind.

Vespanest · 20/04/2024 08:16

And to add I’m older than Harry and ex military the p word was not a term of endearment, we didn’t use it as a jock, scouse, paddy etc. Its like believing the 80s never happened and that still then doesn’t account for the other Asian slur he used.

ArcaneWireless · 20/04/2024 10:27

I heartily agree @vespanest

I served a few years before him and not once was I spoken to or about like that. Not once.

It was not “the norm’”

Just “the norm” for racists.

AliceOlive · 20/04/2024 13:06

We may not have had used the word “othering” in my childhood but certainly we all knew what it meant. Kind people didn’t do it; bullies did.

AliceOlive · 20/04/2024 13:15

I had to look up the incident to remember when it happened. 2003? Harry was an officer! He was the one filming. Not just one slur, but several.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jan/12/prince-harry-video-pakistani

You have to wonder if anyone excusing this as if people weren’t aware that racism is wrong was even out of short pants at at that point. It’s not the stone ages.

Politicians condemn Prince Harry over 'racist' remark | Prince Harry | The Guardian

St James's Palace apologises for comments made in video diary

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jan/12/prince-harry-video-pakistani

Corinthiana · 20/04/2024 13:17

I am just astonished that anyone would excuse Harry's racism.

CoffeeCantata · 20/04/2024 14:40

Vespanest · 17/04/2024 19:32

You have to hand it to Harry, displays actual racism numerous times and has somehow become the anti racism ambassador for some.

Yes - it's bizarre. Harry and Meghan have behaved badly in the past and continue to do so but some people have decided they are beyond criticism. Their adoring fans just ignore all the evidence - even when it's on film or actual words from their own mouths. I find it very depressing.

OneHeartySnail · 20/04/2024 16:21

Corinthiana · 20/04/2024 13:17

I am just astonished that anyone would excuse Harry's racism.

Often the same people who leap on criticism of Meghan's behaviour with cries of 'RACISM!!!!'