“Not feeling comfortable with life in the US”

[Jeezitneverends]

I’ll begin by saying that initially When the Sussexes went to the US I genuinely wished good things for them, but since then I’m more “you wanted privacy so shut up”. Is this a case of be careful what you wish for?

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I think it’s very clear that things have not gone the way they would have wished, yes it’s their fault, but it’s a mess let’s be honest.

they,or she, wanted a list and riches, now they are hanging with c list polo players and their wives. It comes across a bit real housewives.

i don’t know what’s happening with aro or the cooking show.right now it seems nothing but am sure stuff going on in the background.

the rushing out of the brand and the archewelll prize when William was presenting at the Diana awards, shows they haven’t stopped attacking the royals , they remain as petty and spiteful as ever.

Whatever happened to 40x40?

There was so much coverage of the book in the press that I think that’s sufficient to know the main themes. I would have said those were about strained relationships rather than difficulties accepting smaller bedrooms.

You'd need to read the actual book, rather than the press coverage.
Let me tell you, if my husband had finished off the canister of gas and air when I was in labour so that he could get high, like Harry did, there certainly would not have been baby no.2.

As @Janetime says, it’s a complete mess…there have been countless projects which have come about with massive fanfare then never heard of again…I’m quite sure some are ticking away in the background, which is great, but it just comes across that they’re jumping about from one thing to another without any sticking power.
I can’t comment on the book as I haven’t read it and I won’t read it…I’m not lining their pockets!

None of that episode as written in Spare had the remotest ring of truth about it. Not unless medical negligence was involved.

The whole thing is strange. The whole book veers from stuff which makes sense, and borders on the interesting (his time in the army) to the very peculiar (Meghan kneeling on Diana's grave, clutching the headstone and asking for guidance) and lots of odd episodes inbetween.
The ghost writer had quite a task.

Meghan and Harry were a novelty in Hollywood for awhile, but four years down the line nobody is interested, and your description of housewives is bang on the money. Their social circle will likely be wealthy Americans.

Work is already drying up. Charles would probably take them back if they could no longer afford their LA lifestyle (after all Harry is still his son). But my god it would be a hard slog for the British public to forgive and forget, so it may be difficult for them to become working royals. A lot of bridges would need to be repaired but some may not be able to be mended.

Ah , I asked that a couple of times and was soundly ticked off by a supporter ( no longer posting ! ) saying I had no right to expect an update .
So that was me telt !!

Right. Is it protected information?!

Pretty sure that if it had been a rip roaring success we would have heard about it !!

40x40 quietly dropped according to the tabloids. Certainly no update on the Archewell website. What exactly she thought some actress could do for a pleb in 40 minutes is beyond me.

I haven't read the book, only the things which others have said or written, and this is the first time I've heard about Meghan kneeling on Diana's grave, clutching the headstone and asking for guidance.

I talk to my lot when I go to the grave/s, but I haven't done any headstone-clutching yet. Sometimes I drop a little kiss on a headstone. Well, I must stop. This seems to be all about me, not the title of the thread.

I looked at a video but I couldn't see Meghan waving anyone away. Did that happen? If so, at what part in the proceedings? Harry and Meghan's kiss was definitely warmer than that time when Diana presented something to Charles and he leaned forward to kiss her and she turned her head to deflect the kiss.

I can understand why this happened, memory is not fallible and I have myself recently been absolutely certain of a particular sequence of events that happened tp myself and DH. It was only this week that I realised I had actually forgotten a critical part of events abd was misremembering the time line. Many people muddle things, especially in times of stress.

the difference of course is that I'm not publishing a book using my false memory to slag off my family.

The bit about him being at school and an aide phoning to say the QM had died was just so daft . There is photographic evidence of him skiing overseas with his Dad and brother !
I think it was him trying to suggest that family didn’t tell him about the death and he heard from a member of staff .

Not INFALLIBLE I mean obvs

@upinaballoon - I'm sure that some of us get comfort from talking to loved ones no longer with us.
However, Meghan had never met Diana. This episode was recounted in Spare, and I find it very peculiar.

Oh yes, of course I'd forgotten the details. Probably more to it than just false memories then

why on earth they didn't get the whole thing fact checked...

Megan reminds me a bit of Catherine Tate's "I can do that" character. A bit of a a Walter Mitty on a rather more grandiose scale. If she was an regular worker she would definitely be the one claiming to have advanced qualifications she didn't have.

The true events should stick in Harry's mind for a number of reasons. That ski trip was Harry's first public appearance since being busted for doing drugs at school. His dad let the press take some organised shots of him and the boys in exchange for the press leaving them alone for the rest of the holiday. When the news came that TQM had died, all 3 flew home together. It would have been highly unusual - in fact it may never have happened before in Harry's life - for the 3 next in line to the throne to be flying on the same transport. So there are a couple of surrounding events which you would have thought would anchor the memory.

I'm not quarrelling with your use of the word 'peculiar'. I haven't thought of the term 'headstone clutching' before. :)

I knew a man who attended funerals. He once said, in a recklessly frank moment, and with a small smile on his face, having known the family of the deceased for a long time, "I expect there'll be a bit of swaying near the edge of the grave today."
Some folk like a spot of histrionics.

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Work is already drying up. Charles would probably take them back if they could no longer afford their LA lifestyle (after all Harry is still his son). But my god it would be a hard slog for the British public to forgive and forget, so it may be difficult for them to become working royals. A lot of bridges would need to be repaired but some may not be able to be mended.

I would be devastated if H & M returned to the UK in anything but a very private capacity where I didn't have to look at them or hear about them.

Apart from the bridge-burning they've done with the RF, they would never be allowed back into official life because they've proved themselves to be totally untrustworthy. The RF have to meet with military personnel, diplomatic staff, home and foreign politicians and heads of state etc etc. It's always been a given that any conversations with these people are confidential - but with H & M?? I don't think so. It's more than a 'redemption' thing - it would be an issue of national security.

Also, I don't suppose either of them is any more interested in the nitty-gritty royal duties of visiting unglam locations with very little (other than local) publicity. I'd hazard a guess that Meghan wouldn't want to do anything unless she could dress in 50K outfits and get photographed doing it.

Plus...Meghan wants to bore us with her awful word-salad speeches all the time, and royals aren't supposed to do that! Their speeches will be at least co-written and she would never be allowed just to spout her own stuff unregulated.

Their only motivation for wanting to pop back occasionally is to re-affirm their fading 'royal' status (but for me, they lost that when they went to the US - I do not buy the nauseating 'Duchess Meghan' stuff) and to pick up more supply for their self-publicity and material for further books, interviews and documentaries. The RF would be utterly mad to allow them back into the fold.

It would turn me into a republican!!! And that's saying something.

I suspect they do! It's strange though when they've never actually met the person and attempt a communion.
Not the oddest thing in the book, though!

If for some unfathomable reason they ever did return to royal duties I would hope William would take great delight in giving the pair of them the visits that the Gloucesters will no doubt have to give up soon, attending the opening of the extension of the local refuse centre, the opening of a new sewage plant where the pair of them have to don hi viz overalls, oh how revenge could be so sweet for William!

If Charles can do it…..