What exactly is "the Sussex Squad"?

[Prydddan]

I don't know whether this is too controversial a topic for such a thread to be allowed to stand. But I post in good faith on a topic I believe has a lot of social and political relevance.

Does the "Sussex Squad" actually exist? If so, how do you join? If not, do people ever identify as belonging to it?

If it exists, was it hijacked by SarahData and Bouzy or was it their creation? And, if so, to what extent?

Thanks in advance.

But not lunatics on social media apparently. They’re happy for the lunatics to run free on William and Kate

i actually disagree about the press thing. I don’t want to live in a world where poor behaviour is never called out. Such as rape in Animal Parks and telling porkie pies.

what I WOULD like to see stop is nastiness on people’s appearances in the press. There’s no public duty to slag a woman off because she has her shoulders on display. Unless they are wearing something political then it’s just gutter press antics

Other than that a free press is very important

And that is nothing, compared to their character assassination of William, a young father who lost his mother while young and who is now dealing with his wife's cancer diagnosis.

There were two posters on here who were particularly vicious towards William to the point where I felt that if they weren't paid then they were unhinged.

Have they said this to their colluder Bouzy, do you think? Might they have asked their colluder Scobie to not accuse Catherine of racism in his book ( especially since Harry denies that Megham ever accused anybody in the RF of racism)?

I don't get it either. It's like some people are determined to blame William and Catherine for everything that went wrong in Harry's life.

Harry himself said that he and William weren't as close as the media made it out to be and looking back, he was right. When William and Catherine got engaged, Harry said that he was looking forward to getting to know Kate. How do you get to know a woman your brother has been dating for 8 years. Also, when Charlotte was born, he said that he hadn't seen William and Catherine in a while so why are people so mad that Catherine didn't bond with Meghan when William and Harry weren't even that close? Make it make sense.

The squad keeps bringing up the "Meghan made Kate cry" article. Per Harry's recollections, he found Meghan crying alone, on the floor. If so, how do they know that Kate didn't cry? Maybe, she did also cry at home or in front of her staff when Meghan wasn't around?
And honestly, the vitrol Catherine received after the Oprah interview was 10 times worse than the backlash Meghan received after the original story came out.

There's also the "William and Catherine fed negative stories to the media about Meghan and Harry"

This is why the squad wants the Rose-William story to be true because they feel like it would somehow vindicate H&M
It's been years and we still have no evidence for these claims, however we do know that Harry and Meghan fed stories to Omid Scobie for the writing of "Finding Freedom".
And 90%, of the stories H&M got criticised for, William and Catherine got criticised for the same thing in the past: flying private jets while preaching about climate change, the renovations of their home, people going after the kids,Kate was accused of funding terrorism once,... Royals will always get criticised at some point. Not everyone in the UK and the press is pro-royal

Then, there's the "William and Catherine did nothing to help Meghan when she was struggling"

Harry clearly said in the Oprah interview that he didn't tell the family that Meghan was having suicidal thoughts because he was "ashamed of admitting it to them". Non only that, he took her to an event that very same night she told him and he later took her, not to a doctor, but to HR.

The Squad can blame William and Catherine all they want but Meghan's husband, mother and friends failed her because there's no way my friends and family would just sit by and do nothing after I had told them that I was struggling mentally and felt suicidal. They would be on the first flight, on their way to take me to a doctor themselves.

I also feel bad for Catherine because during that period, her brother was suicidal. He was even hospitalised and the Middletons were going on family therapy every week to help him. To then have millions of people accuse you of denying professional help to a pregnant woman struggling mentally must've been greatly upsetting.

Another emerging development in.the Sussex Squad script. Faux-naive queries:

"I just don't understand why people are interested in this couple"

and

"They're not bad people"

I don't think they are 'bad people', they aren't (as far as any of us can tell 😀) torturing fluffy kittens for a laugh. Though some animals do seem to be considered fair game by H...

I do think they are self-centred, consumed by jealousy despite being incredibly privileged, and lacking much self-awareness.

In the end I suspect they hurt themselves more than anyone else. However much they have - money, fame, validation - it will never be enough.

It is fascinating to watch, and a good reality check to appreciate what I have!

Torturing ponies, though.

And dumping dogs.

Why does a grown woman need to be ‘taken’ to a doctor? She was depressed and struggling. She could have had zoom calls with a psychiatrist in the US if she had wanted to, or found someone in the UK.

I’m largely indifferent to them and I was so happy for him when he met her. So many of us weeped when we say a 12yo walk behind hi mum’s coffin, his grief displayed for the world to see. I think the UK really felt her deserved happiness, and when we met a gorgeous and seemingly lovely woman who brought something different to the RF, people were thrilled. I for one thought Meghan was VERY cool and I loved the wedding and the aspects she brought to it. The chatty pastor (who said VERY important words), the amazing choir and walking down the aisle alone after her nutjob father tried to use her for cash.

And there WAS nastiness in the press - nothing Kate and Camilla didn’t endure but at this point it was getting tiresome. Which is when they hot footed it off to America I didn’t blame them a jot. So may people wished them happiness and peace.

So when it became clear they actually didn’t want to just go to America and live a life where they won’t be hounded by the media. They left, promptly booked an interview and sat making the most shocking and most importantly, unfounded, allegations against the RF me the British press and public. They also told a few lies, but what stuck me about why I have decided I no longer find them cool or admirable was 2 things and it centered around Harry

1. Meghan said she wasn’t prepared or trained for Royal life. I’m really disappointed in Oprah that she didn’t ask Harry why HE didn’t train or help her. she said she didn’t know the national anthem. I thought “Well learn it then - did you expect someone to download it into your brain”.
2. Harry essentially sat in an Armani suit in a $14 million mansion at the age of nearly 40 and whined that daddy had cut him off. And that daddy took his security away. Something we later learned was untrue.

At this point I’m going off them and hoping that it was a moment of bad judgement. But no. That was 3 years ago and not only have they Carried on with the accusations and very little consideration of how that affects his family, but they also want to keep their titles to make money. The titles given by an institution they apparently hate.

So I’m now thinking “Huh - feels like they wanna have their cake and eat it too. And they don’t do much about the destruction left in their wake.

They have spoken out about how bullying is unacceptable and how Meghan was at breaking point due to online trolls. Yet when the apparent Sussex Squad formed, with a man they call a friend heading it and encouraging harassment against William and Kate (and by extension their children), they remain silent for years. This is a group of people who worship at the feet of them and also send death threats in their name. And they say nothing.

I don’t think they’re good people at all, all things considered. They are hypocrites to the extreme. They wanted 100% protection and 0% criticism. But they ignore it when their fans went hell for leather on his family. It’s hard to see what’s nice about them now TBH

The Squad can blame William and Catherine all they want but Meghan's husband, mother and friends failed her because there's no way my friends and family would just sit by and do nothing after I had told them that I was struggling mentally and felt suicidal. They would be on the first flight, on their way to take me to a doctor themselves.

And I think Meghan managed to attend several events (official and personal) and go on holiday during the period when she alleged she was suicidal, so for me, something doesn't compute. And (again, a personal take) I cannot take anyone seriously who tells the world (either herself or through Harry) that she sunk to the floor sobbing inconsolably. I think people who are really in this awful state don't go showing off about it. It doesn't ring true somehow.

Plus, of course, the oft-mentioned point that all she had to do was ask Harry for help and she'd have got it. To me, none of it adds up - it's a classic drama-queen victim scenario.

Agree. Diana reportedly tried to throw herself down the stairs when pregnant with William. I think pondering she is once again trying to make out she is Diana Mark 2.

Diana threatened to throw herself down the stairs when she was pregnant with William, Meghan feels suicidal when pregnant with Archie, this comment will probably be deleted but she has modelled herself on Diana to feed into Harry’s insecurities from day one. Some people do use suicide threats as a weapon to control, we hear about it daily in the news and threads on here it’s not uncommon.

I remember a story Diana told about how she was having a nervous breakdown locked in her room and William had to pass her notes under the door to see if she was OK. I’m sure he was about 11, which is the age of my DD.

For context, this was at a time where her peak milking of sympathy happened. So it was all to show how awful the Royals were and how far they pushed her.

If I ever put my DD through what she put William through my otherwise resilient DD would be broken. You do not treat children that way. You certainly don’t treat them that way then use that story to garner sympathy.

I was also around William’s age when she did the Bashir interview. I remember thinking the boys must be mortified at their mum airing her dirty laundry this way. She NEVER thought how doing that would impact them, not for a second.

William has clearly gained strength and chosen a strong wife. Harry has chosen a carbon copy of his mum - perpetual victim and selfish drama llama

The only person that should be painted in a bad light over Meghans mental health is Harry, he plays on his pathetic poor lost boy. The Sussex squad cannot have any claim regarding gutter press and rumours after the horrific treatment of Rose and her son and the includes Harry and meghans confident when needed Scobie.

But why couldn’t she book a doctor’s appointment herself? I don’t go to HR if I have mental health issues

I don't know why Harry hasn't been taken to task for his comment on Oprah that he was embarrassed to ask for help for Meghan
What an absolute cowardly tosspot.
She should dump him for that alone.

@CoffeeCantata
You're not allowed to question some's narrative if they use suicide word.

Not to mention in previous charity work he’d mentioned that there should be no stigma around MH issues

Nobhead

Do you mean for anyone in general?

I’m not going to judge on her state of mind, but I know unfortunately from personal experiences that asking for help can be extremely hard. Its a time when strong advocates are needed. In that I mean Harry

I think he there seriously misled her on what royal family life was like including protocol. Maybe because his exes opted out of that life and he didn’t want that to happen again

Or she knew exactly what she was going into and thought she’d shake things up a bit, and was not happy when that didn’t happen

People that tell you directly, their mouth to your ear ( figuratively speaking). Openly not believing them, we are told, can compound their mental health problem and so is considered bad form.

Funnily, though, if it is reported speech (e.g. if someone on the Relationships thread here were to report that their DP was threatening to kill themselves if they did/didn't <insetdemandof_choice>) cynical disbelief, and a tendency to see such behaviour as emotional blackmail, is the standard consensus.

Yes @Prydddan there is a thread in relationships where this has played out. Like I say it can be used as a form of control and abusive behaviour.

Yes exactly. She knows how triggering it is for Harry.