Scoop on Prince Andrew (Netflix)

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Anyone watching this?
I've just put it on.

Yes it did come through I noticed this too.

Yes I noticed the Maggie voice coming through. I didn't realise that Gillian Anderson played her in the Crown. Make sense now.

Haven't got Netflix so it might take me some time to get to see this but I've read various reviews.

I loathe PA, but to be honest, I'm not an Emily Maitlis fan either. She always irritates me with her over-earnest self-importance, and from reviews I've read, this comes over strongly in the film.

So I'll be disgusted by one participant and infuriated by the other, I suppose.

Even if you find Emily Maitlis's manner irritating, you have to grant her the fact that she conducted an exceptional interview in journalistic terms.

And yet still protected by the royal family, with a vast house etc. despite no conversations with the FBI. It's quite extraordinary.

Hopefully this and the Amazon piece will put pressure on the Palace to show some moral leadership in relation to Andrew because so far there's been none, bar dispensing with him as a working royal.

Born in America, but spent first 11 years of her life in London, then moved back to America. There’s always been a lot of comment on her switching completely between a British and an American accent, depending on the context. (Some people seem to think this is fake, but having a dual accent is a known thing, and I think it adds to her already -in my opinion anyway -phenomenal appeal). That said, like others, I don’t feel she got the voice right in this, though I thought some of Emily’s mannerisms were captured startlingly well.

Each to their own of course, but I really admire Emily Maitlis, and felt this film actually had a few snide digs at her which detracted from the wider interest of the film.

Just watched this, it was OK - I learnt a lot of Epstein I didn’t previously know.

But the interview itself was such car crash TV it’s hard to top the shock factor. I remember watching it in a hotel with DH on a trip away and we just had our jaws on the floor!

Im quite cross with Rufus Sewell, who up until today I fancy the pants off, for uglying up and no I can never unsee it 😂😂

I was however very distracted by Billie Piper’s forehead. It moved a lot!

Clafoutie · Yesterday 23:59

Each to their own of course, but I really admire Emily Maitlis, and felt this film actually had a few snide digs at her which detracted from the wider interest of the film.

Yes - that's what some of the reviews said, but there is/was actually considerable bad feeling between Maitlis and her producer Sam MacAlister, who felt Maitlis had gobbled up all the credit for the interview when in fact much careful planning, strategy and question-wording had gone into it from Sam. I suspect scores are being settled.

I read an article about this and I got the uncomfortable feeling that Maitlis is one of those people who, while good at what she does, stands on other people's shoulders and then happily takes all the credit. I've worked with people like that, so perhaps I'm a bit touchy!!

But what do I know? It just rang true.

Liked this, lots of good performances, but not gillian anderson: far too maggie thatcher.

keeley hawes good: her character’s choices made me squirm!

I enjoyed it and thought Gillian was good. I think maybe some folks pigeon hole someone in a role they have seen and then it sticks in their mind. She’s quite close to how Matis is.

i think the disappointment for me, was I can’t believe they weren’t all giving it a bit of fuck me, he’s toast or what a twat , after. I mean I would have been.

and it seemed to come across keely hawes character was a bit in love with him. Which i found an odd insinuation.

Same. I’m old so I remember her as the pop star who married….Chris Evans?

I agree, Maitlis did a magazine interview afterwards and didn’t credit Sam at all. Awful

and it seemed to come across keely hawes character was a bit in love with him. Which i found an odd insinuation.

It is really hard to imagine anyone being in love with him these days, isn't it? Yes, when he was young he was considered attractive (not by me, though!), but he's got very little to recommend him now. His boorish, unintelligent and pompous personality comes over strongly and he's clearly totally un-self-aware.

SM said in an interview she worked part time at Newsnight.

SM was on GMB and said PA did such a terrible job during the interview, it was hard to keep a poker face yet he was very pleased with himself when he finished!

My grandad was in the navy at the same time as PA, much older than him and senior to him. They met a few times at formal dinners due grandad’s rank and he sat next to him at these things a couple of times.

Now my grandad was the world’s kindest man who rarely swore, and thought everyone was lovely. Even the man who scammed him out of £5k for a tarmacced driveway that was so bad that trading standards got involved, grandad said “I’m sure he didn’t mean to do a bad job, maybe he was having an off day.” He would also say things like ‘drat’ and ‘darn’ even if he’d stubbed his toe really hard. That’s the kind of man he was.

But he always ascertained that PA was, and I quote, “A Pompous and arrogant little twat”.

@YaMuvva · Today 11:23

Yes - that's pretty much what I've heard from people who had to work with him in the RN! Just beyond awful.

I'm a mild royalist and I think the other siblings have some really positive and likeable facets, but PA is a liability and an embarrassment. I think KC has tried to get rid of him, but while he's not been convicted of an offence in this country, it might not be a straightforward matter legally to forcibly evict him from his burrow (??).

I think this situation explains why Eugenie was, alone amongst the RF, (not sure if they've fallen out now) mates with H & M - partly, I'm sure, because her dad is at war with KC and it was a way to get back at him.

I actually think that the Keeley Hawes character did think Prince Andrew was wonderful.
I imagine he surrounds himself with sycophants and admirers.

That’s probably fair and what he does to be honest. Plus you’d not work closely for him unless you thought that as you’d not be able to hide it.

i genuinely believe he is absolutely guilty of the sex crimes he’s accused of, I think he simply thought though she fancied him and wanted to have sex with him due to who he was. Or that it was a treat for her. He’s that arrogant. But he probably didn’t care either way, it was about him and his wants. One of his body guards said he didn’t do drink, drugs, or smoking, but he did do sex.

How he was allowed to do the Matis interview is beyond me. He was never ever going to be able to achieve anything other than disgrace and make himself look even worse due to his character. Maybe the queen had to let it happen so she could take him out. Her communications secretary was there it seems so he’d have known what a car crash it was, and they still let it go out, then used it as the lever to get him out of public duty, before it deteriorated into a 12 million pay off.

so I think thr queen let it happen; either the public bought it and it was all good, or they didn’t and she’d use it to remove him from public duty.

I saw Sam on GMTV earlier and was quite gracious about Emily while making the point that it’s rare to be credited, so she was glad that her editor had acknowledged her contribution publicly.
It was interesting to hear she’s a former criminal barrister and her take on the interview from that perspective.

I suspect that it's more likely that his mother had a blind spot with Andrew. She was seasoned enough in 2019 to know that Twitter bursting into flames with derision and repulsion at what Andrew said was not going to be forgotten easily by the public, especially that section which is more critical of the royal family generally. She went on to shell out 12m to limit the legal damage for Andrew. I just don't see anything honourable or tactical about anything Andrew's mother and siblings have done since Andrew became implicated in Epstein's crimes. And still it continues.

I thought she was incredibly full of herself. I don't understand the point of the film at all. We all saw the actual interview in its full glory

It was absolutely rubbish. Just the media congratulating themselves.

The most interesting bit is obviously the car-crash interview which you can just watch for real anyway. The rest of it was just boring scenes in BBC and Palace backrooms talking about organising the interview.

Gillian Anderson just replayed Margaret Thatcher, who is nothing like Emily Matlis.

Rubbish title too. It wasn’t even a “scoop”. The BBC didn’t reveal Andrew’s association with Jeffrey Epstein.

That’s not right, thr queen didn’t pay it. She gave two million to Virginias charity, as she refused to pay Virginia directly, and Charles paid the majority but as a loan which was to be paid back by andrew or deducted from his share of his mothers will if he failed to do so.so ultimately andrew paid. He sold his Swiss chalet to support the repayment.

the queen did pay Andrews legal costs though.