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King Charles so proud of Princess Catherine

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AliceOlive · 23/03/2024 20:34

King Charles support of his daughter(in law) is so very touching.

Please keep the comments positive and on topic. We have all had enough vitriol for weeks now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-68641142

King Charles is 'so proud' of 'beloved' Kate after cancer news, says palace - BBC News

King Charles, who himself is being treated for cancer, says he is "so proud" of his "beloved" daughter-in-law's courage.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-68641142

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Startingagainandagain · 24/03/2024 08:41

I am not the biggest fan of the RF but I completely understand his reaction.

She was hounded and had to disclose some very private information and she is dealing with a dreadful disease.

He is dealing with the same disease so of course he is going to praise her for handling both the disease and the media scrutiny with dignity.

The woman has been the perfect wife as far as the RF is concerned (quiet, classy, supportive of her husband and no trouble) so of course he is proud of her.

Yes she has access to the best treatment and doesn't have to linger on a waiting list but cancer is still a horrible thing to deal with whoever you are.

Vespanest · 24/03/2024 08:41

I am glad on reading some of the cancer so fucking what post that time has passed since the last person I loved went through it, and im extremely grateful that none of my children have had cancer having to read this.

musthorse · 24/03/2024 09:04

@FKAT you move in lucky circles them. One friend in her 50s died last year and two in their 40s died last year of bile duct cancer. My own father died at 62 of pancreatic cancer. Cancer is not an old person's disease.

VillageOnSmile · 24/03/2024 09:49

The BBC title does it a disservice and will raise grumbles from many people who have had cancer themselves.
As seen by the first posts.

And with good reasons tbh. The image of the cancer patient being a warrior (and if they die, they’ve lost their battle etc…) doesn’t sit well with many people.
And it is a reflection of the way society at large sees cancer patients.

Now saying he is proud of her for the ways he handled things. I have no issues. It’s actually quite refreshing after the photoshop mayhem that saw her (why?) having to apologise. I’m happy that we can see the King actually supporting her.

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2024 10:23

Sorry - doing my usual thing of catching up after a few says, so the thread has moved on.

I do feel the meaning of "proud" as in "proud of someone" is changing.
I use it in the old (my description) way and, if I'm proud of someone, it means someone I actually know: family, friends, colleagues.
I wouldn't say I was "proud" of the PoW because I don't know her. I would say she's being brave, I feel sorry for her and wish her the best.
The king obviously does know her and she's part of his family, so he's said he's proud. If he was told about someone else with an illness, I think he'd say he was sorry for them and hoped they would recover speedily. I don't think he'd say he was proud of everyone in the world who has a diagnosis of cancer, but I'm sure he'd hope they'd recover.

Being "proud" of a stranger sounds odd to me but the "new" meaning seems to be a way of telling someone that you feel they've been brave/done well/done something good etc regardless of whether you know them.
A bit like judges on Strictly telling a competitor (who they barely know) that they're proud of how they've done, whereas I'd say that I was impressed or very pleased or something.

Language changes and - while it's in the process of doing so - this means people can understand things differently.
This probably belongs in Pedants' Corner but it's something I've noticed for a while.

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2024 10:30

(Left it too late to edit)
I also agree that he meant he was proud of her because she did extremely well and was very brave to make that video.

jeffgoldblum · 24/03/2024 10:39

musthorse · 23/03/2024 21:01

It's a shame that some posters feel so negative about something like this. He is an older man and he probably thinks yes I've had a good enough innings but I imagine he feels for a woman, his young daughter in law, his son's wife, the mother of his Grandchildren and future Queen. There is not a family untouched by cancer and yes it is good to show his support in their public role.

Excellent post 👍

diddl · 24/03/2024 10:53

I like observing the relationship between Charles and PoW - it seems such a good one

I remember one picture of them years ago at a school I think, at a table together doing some art of something?

There did seem to be a genuine affection there.

Teddleshon · 24/03/2024 10:56

Why make nasty sniping comments about her and her situation? No need to say anything!

AliceOlive · 24/03/2024 11:13

LaMarschallin · 24/03/2024 10:23

Sorry - doing my usual thing of catching up after a few says, so the thread has moved on.

I do feel the meaning of "proud" as in "proud of someone" is changing.
I use it in the old (my description) way and, if I'm proud of someone, it means someone I actually know: family, friends, colleagues.
I wouldn't say I was "proud" of the PoW because I don't know her. I would say she's being brave, I feel sorry for her and wish her the best.
The king obviously does know her and she's part of his family, so he's said he's proud. If he was told about someone else with an illness, I think he'd say he was sorry for them and hoped they would recover speedily. I don't think he'd say he was proud of everyone in the world who has a diagnosis of cancer, but I'm sure he'd hope they'd recover.

Being "proud" of a stranger sounds odd to me but the "new" meaning seems to be a way of telling someone that you feel they've been brave/done well/done something good etc regardless of whether you know them.
A bit like judges on Strictly telling a competitor (who they barely know) that they're proud of how they've done, whereas I'd say that I was impressed or very pleased or something.

Language changes and - while it's in the process of doing so - this means people can understand things differently.
This probably belongs in Pedants' Corner but it's something I've noticed for a while.

Absolutely.

I only only use it in a relationship where there is a certain level of intimacy. I wouldn’t tell my VP I’m proud of him, I would say I’m inspired.

A stranger sharing something difficult I might say “You should be proud of that.” Or similar.

I wouldn’t say it to one elderly neighbor but there is another to whom I am very close; I could say it to her.

They are obviously very close.

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WandaWonder · 24/03/2024 11:16

If I was him I would be thinking 'I am proud of you for putting up with the nutjobs whose only purpose in life is to make up crap about us royals'

jeffgoldblum · 24/03/2024 14:08

WandaWonder · 24/03/2024 11:16

If I was him I would be thinking 'I am proud of you for putting up with the nutjobs whose only purpose in life is to make up crap about us royals'

Very good point!

FKAT · 24/03/2024 14:23

musthorse · 24/03/2024 09:04

@FKAT you move in lucky circles them. One friend in her 50s died last year and two in their 40s died last year of bile duct cancer. My own father died at 62 of pancreatic cancer. Cancer is not an old person's disease.

I'm not saying nobody gets cancer by that age, I'm just saying it is NOT "very common."

Sorry about your friends and father. My mother had it at 39 and 51 (cervical and breast cancer) - she is alive and cancer free for over 25 years.

ThaMiSporsail · 24/03/2024 14:30

I am a staunch republican but, as someone whose own in-laws won't speak to me or acknowledge me even though I've been married to their son for over 20 years, I found the King's comments about his 'beloved' daughter in law very moving.

How fortunate she is to have such a loving, supportive family around her at any time, but particularly during challenging times.

lollipoprainbow · 24/03/2024 14:38

Both Charles and Catherine had routine procedures where the cancer was discovered 🤔

CoffeeCantata · 24/03/2024 14:47

Startingagainandagain · Today 08:41

I am not the biggest fan of the RF but I completely understand his reaction.
She was hounded and had to disclose some very private information and she is dealing with a dreadful disease.
He is dealing with the same disease so of course he is going to praise her for handling both the disease and the media scrutiny with dignity.
The woman has been the perfect wife as far as the RF is concerned (quiet, classy, supportive of her husband and no trouble) so of course he is proud of her.

I totally agree. She's very stoic in the face of things which would make most of us run for the hills - and I'm not talking about the cancer. The vilification she gets from social media and the slurs thrown at her by the Sussexes must have been utterly horrible for someone not born into the RF and hardened to the living in the glare of publicity.

I've just looked on YouTube, and some of the stuff on there is vicious. It makes me ashamed to be human sometimes!

You're right that it's nothing to do with whether you're a royalist or not (I'm a mild constitutional monarchy supporter) - the behaviour of some people, and unforgiveably, celebrities who've broadcast their spiteful thoughts on SM - is really depressing.

CoffeeCantata · 24/03/2024 14:49

WandaWonder · Today 11:16

If I was him I would be thinking 'I am proud of you for putting up with the nutjobs whose only purpose in life is to make up crap about us royals'

Absolutey!

Seizethedog · 24/03/2024 16:00

ThaMiSporsail · 24/03/2024 14:30

I am a staunch republican but, as someone whose own in-laws won't speak to me or acknowledge me even though I've been married to their son for over 20 years, I found the King's comments about his 'beloved' daughter in law very moving.

How fortunate she is to have such a loving, supportive family around her at any time, but particularly during challenging times.

I thought the lovely message from her brother was moving too.

smilesy · 24/03/2024 16:09

lollipoprainbow · 24/03/2024 14:38

Both Charles and Catherine had routine procedures where the cancer was discovered 🤔

How was Catherine’s “major abdominal surgery” a routine procedure ?🙄

edited to correct punctuation

pilates · 24/03/2024 16:11

Yes it was Seizethedog

Hadalifeonce · 24/03/2024 16:15

I assume he meant he was proud of her to have sent out a personal message about her situation. It's a terrible disease that far too many people have to deal with, most of whom don't have to suffer under the scrutiny of the public and the media.

themessygarden · 24/03/2024 16:24

Carole and Michael Middleton must have been beside themselves, worrying about their daughter after major surgery, then getting a cancer diagnosis, all the while watching the onslaught against her. It must be so difficult to not be tempted to make some comment, they really are to be admired too.

PastorCarrBonarra · 24/03/2024 16:32

themessygarden · 24/03/2024 16:24

Carole and Michael Middleton must have been beside themselves, worrying about their daughter after major surgery, then getting a cancer diagnosis, all the while watching the onslaught against her. It must be so difficult to not be tempted to make some comment, they really are to be admired too.

Yes. They must have been under enormous stress. I very much hope they have good, discreet people in their lives for support.

Reddog1 · 24/03/2024 16:39

I'm anti-monarchy but I thought that Charles’ message was pitched perfectly, a super message. I’d have been delighted to have received that from my (lovely) father- in-law when I was married.

Not that I can begin to imagine what Kate is enduring, having never been seriously unwell myself. I’m lucky in that regard. But it’s my belief that this message will have pleased her.

SleepingStandingUp · 24/03/2024 16:40

DillDanding · 23/03/2024 20:43

What a load of twaddle. Kate has cancer, just like gazillions of others. Shes no more special than any of them.

Well he is to him, surely that's the point
He's speaking of his daughter in law and how she's coped personally probably esp with regards his grandkids. Proud night not be a word you'd use or want using, but he's allowed to be "proud" of how she's coping just like any other family member of anyone else