King Charles so proud of Princess Catherine

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King Charles support of his daughter(in law) is so very touching.

Please keep the comments positive and on topic. We have all had enough vitriol for weeks now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-68641142

I think hell would freeze over before Meghan made the U.K. her home. I think she would want and need guarantees such as friendly press (facilitated by BP), no duties, freedom to pursue whatever money-making endeavours etc. Basically, nothing possible or likely. I certainly pulsing do it if I were her. What for?

Harry must miss home and his family desperately, but he’s made his bed. And I imagine he’s enjoying being free of the RF machine, although perhaps he worries where his livelihood will come from. I get the impression he’s left that up to Meghan.

It also occurs to me that their children are properly American: accents, culture, school environment, holidays celebrated, food eaten, no church attended etc. Of all the US states, California’s is amongst the most different from British culture, after eg Hawaii, Tennessee, Texas etc. I don’t know how they could ever represent the RF in any capacity as adults, or be more involved than (say) Beatrice’s stepson. They’re literally outsiders to the family and the institution. I imagine this might cause Harry some distress. His actions will have much farther reaching consequences than I think he imagined (even if plainly obvious to any normal adult).

No, I think they will remain married because they have nothing but each other at this point. She needs his name; he needs her potential income and support (he’s totally ostracised all his family and friends, she’s all he has). I can see him going back and forth, maybe with the children visiting, but I do think he will end his days in at least half self-imposed exile. Very Duke and Duchess of Windsor. Nothing wrong with that, if that’s what they want.

That is such a weird partnership! From my limited knowledge of them what is the attraction of a woman who gains notoriety by her daughter's infamy?

I've no idea @musthorse . I think it's easy to think we know about all their relationships from photos we get to see, but of course we don't know about everything they do and who they see - just what they want us to see. Anyway, going on a skiing holiday with the Corey fellow indicates that there's a relationship there that is more than mere acquaintance. Either that, or it's another WME play date like the Katy Perry concert.

Said Kris Jenner.

It’s interesting to speculate.

I always imagine that like many parents of young dc, H&M are probably fully absorbed and happy raising their dc and are relieved that their dc are out of the limelight. I hope so anyway.

I very much agree with you that Meghan will probably have no wish whatsoever to return to the UK! And I don’t blame her for that given the way she has been treated by the tabloids.

Who knows but I think it’s likely that Harry does feel regret and hurt about having to leave but I think he felt that before ifyswim so nothing has changed much there. He was miserable for years and now I imagine he feels hugely liberated. That’s not necessarily sad half-exile; it’s living life freely and enjoying it! It just depends on individual perspectives I suppose.

Plenty of immigrants cope successfully with making a life away from their home country. It’s not without problems but it’s a price you happily pay if you fall in love with someone from another country. Huge numbers of people make it work. And it is possible to live a great life outside of the UK, although even the mere thought of that seems inexplicably offensive to some.

It is very sad if you are estranged from your family, especially when some of them are seriously ill, but that estrangement happened way before when he was living in the same country by the sound of it and there’s no guarantee that their relationships would have been better if they lived in close proximity now. To my mind that’s even more painful.

I reckon some members of the establishment and many members of the tabloid press, have a vested interest in painting Harry’s life in the US as sad and miserable as possible, and I think we should not necessarily take what we read as the gospel truth. None of us know for sure!

Btw there is lots of church attendance happening in the USA, well there was when I visited for several months on several occasions. Even during weekend work conferences.

It's not just criticism from the UK tabloids, though, is it? They were thoroughly mocked by South Park and seen as a laughing stock in New York after the 'car chase'. There is no context in which their grandiosity will not be noticed.

I don’t think his life is miserable- but it’s still hard being estranged from family. He did cause it, but he must feel it too.
They could have left and not expressed all their anger - still have been on good personal terms

"No church attendance" is not "properly American." Regular church attendance in the US is much higher than in the UK.

That’s a very good point about the children. They are being brought up in quite a different way from the other royal children and will just have completely different reference points. If they were to meet in the future with their cousins or extended family there won’t be any experiences they share. ‘Remember that
Xmas at Sandringham when we..’. I feel sorry for H and M’s kids missing out on their extended family. However they will gain other things instead. They are being brought up as Americans . Rich, celebrity Americans. If Harry were to want to move the family back to the UK it would be a huge culture shock for them. I don’t believe it will ever happen.

Wonder why he hasn't been back to visit his father? Was that fleeting 45 minutes after the diagnoses the sum total?

Thank you to the posters re who he's hanging out with over there, the names sound familiar but I couldn't point to them in a police line up!

I think the simple answer to that is even his own Dad doesn't trust him to keep his confidence.

I can't remember where Charles was going but there must have been a reason why Harry wasn't welcome to go with him. It's not like any of their houses are 1 bedroom flats.

Both Charles and William seem to wait and tell Harry things at the last minute just before they are publicly announced. Queens death and Kates cancer.

Other Royals and friends must have visited Charles after his diagnosis. We've never heard anything about those visits, Only Harry's.

Either Eugenie or Beatrice went to see him, can’t remember which. I’m sure they have all been at some point. Charles was going to Sandringham. Harry just jumped on a plane apparently without any consideration for his father’s plans . The fact that he wanted Camilla to leave the room can’t have helped. Obviously they weren’t going to cart Harry with them when he wouldn’t speak to Camilla.

I hadn't realised Harry wouldn't speak to Camilla. What an ass, that's not how you build bridges!

How does anyone know that Harry wouldn’t speak to Camilla or wanted her to leave the room?

If Harry wanted Camilla to leave the room, then the most likely reason was that he wanted to bend Charles’s ear. (For those who might like to report, that’s an expression and I was not suggesting that Harry might be grabbing a royal lughole and twisting it in a violent manner.)

This is very true. But as @TimeToCallItANight said hoe do people know this

Was he not due to be at some glitzy do a couple of days later so the optics wouldn’t have looked good if he could manage to go to a show business event but not visit his father .

I laughed at this 😂. And lughole - haven’t heard that for years but my late parents always talked about lugholes !

I don’t know why I suddenly thought of lughole. Similarly “bonce” - does anyone say that nowadays? Or fizog (sp?). I presume the latter was from WWI and troops hearing “visage” - but I’ve really no idea.

I was more thinking why hasn't he been back again? It's been some weeks now since the cancer announcement, you'd have thought he'd manage to carve out a bit of time for a proper visit....

Why is this thread about Harry and Meghan? The title suggests otherwise.

@Manyandyoucanwalkover it meandered from rude things about Kate

When I went through chemo , I was advised to limit socialising as much as possible as you are more susceptible to other illnesses . So maybe Charles wants to restrict numbers of visitors ?

Not just restricting germy visitors but restricting loose lips, no doubt.

I’d love to know how people find this stuff out so hope someone answers me.