The Princess of Wales..

[CurlewKate]

I just wanted to share some thoughts I've had since talking to some RL friends last night. I'm a Republican, and didn't actually post much on any of the threads on here. But I did read them, laugh at the ones I found funny and speculated a little IRL. I enjoy robust mental health, but I feel a little sad and down today about the news. And a little guilty. It occurs to me that it might be a real source of distress to some other people. Not the big media ghouls, of course, they have no shame and will just move on to the next thing without looking back, but for those of us who bought in to the whole farrago and maybe posted things we now wish we hadn't. So remember, the media often manipulates us, the establishment often lies to us and it's actually a good thing not to immediately take what we're told at face value. Don't beat yourself up and find someone to talk to if you feel really bad about it. Take care of yourselves.

I feel for Kate, William, the kids, wish them all well...

..but the royals just cannot have the same level of privacy as others, there will always be press intrusion etc.

It was monumentally nuts of them to try and keep this quiet for so long, the king was very candid about his health, and consequently the public and press have largely moved on, because it's not that remarkable or unusual for someone to be ill, that's why every town has a hospital.

The mistake made was someone with such intrusion try to keep an impossible secret (given the number of people who knew), it was silly and just made the press and public more interested.

The issue is the deceptions of KP, putting out bogus photos etc.., the RF are a constitutional monarchy, so are in effect in our employ as figureheads of our democratic state - it is therefore very dubious and unwise of them trying to deliberately deceive the people.

Are you serious?

It's not occured to you to educate yourself about chemotherapy or even think about the timeline? She's obviously only just started for starters.

Catherine was dealing with the after effects of major abdominal surgery followed by the hammer-blow of the cancer diagnosis. They also had to prioritise how they broke the news to the children. All of this was happening in the context of William's father having cancer, and of William himself being only too well aware of what it is for a young child to lose a mother.

Do you seriously consider prioritising all of that over public prurience was "monumentally nuts"? I really don't. The King's position is simply not comparable: his cancer was diagnosed after a relatively minor procedure, and he doesn't have young children. KP didn't put out "bogus photos", they published one photograph which had been photoshopped by Catherine in a really minor and trivial way. I for one am not going to blame her for trying to produce the best photograph of her family for Mothers' Day in what must for her have been really quite emotional circumstances.

It does seem to me that it is all the people who were coming up with seriously offensive and outlandish theories who are now trying to blame KP. None of them seem able to come up with any realistic or sensible explanations about what KP should have done differently.

As Catherine said, she's had a really horrible few months. Time to leave her alone.

The French overthrew the feudal Monarchy of a bankrupt state where the population had no representation. I'm not sure how you think replacing that with the blueprint for our liberal democracies was a failure.

As for your wall analogy. If you remove an entire layer of bricks from a wall, it'll be more stable than before. As long as you remove them from the top.

Consider the number of people who must have known, medical staff, palace staff, assorted hangers on - the more people who know a secret the less likely it is to stay such.

So I'll stick with monumentally nuts as my appraisal of KPs efforts, and like it or not, it has damaged the RFs reputation in the eyes of many.

They have my sympathies of course, but they need to get rid of the lackeys who make these stupid decisions

It really hasn't. It'll all be forgotten now.

I don't think it was stupid at all. I don't think there's anything they could have said or done earlier that wouldn't have just caused more speculation. There was no way of winning this so why try?

I have two friends who have gone through chemo and they both used cold caps which helped them retain their hair.

Well for one KP should of stuck to their adamant position of not saying anything.

No.2 don't put out fake images.

No3. Could of just had Catherine write a thanks everyone message im on road to recovery message (not video or pic if she didnt want to) in the first place because she ended up having to write an apology anyway. So wouldn't it have been better to do that message first and avoid what then happened.

So there you go some simple solutions

I would say that all the bleating, lies, pretence, insinuations and other shite that some people are STILL talking about is way down below the empathy that most people will have in this situation. I would say that some are embarrassed that they have been so stupid in the first place hence why they are denying things they have said and done especially when it is clear for anyone to see. As I said earlier shitlizard or shiteaters are the people sucked in by the hatred spewed in certain quarters. They like to think they are critical thinkers and empathetic but the reality is far from that . Even the three blind mice can see that!

She’s only just started chemo . She also probably has extensions.

I hope you can reflect on your post and realise how offensive it could seem to many people. Her hair doesn't look like she has cancer or had chemo ? Maybe your words came out wrong and I do know how bitter you can get when you lose someone close to you. I posted recently - two friends used the cold cap during theirs and kept their hair. My SIL didn't and lost hers.

Nr 4. Yawn copiously.

Time for bed thankfully.

And yet here you are post after post. Stop posting if you went to respect the RF privacy.

Of course KP made a huge error, they created a cryptic information vacuum, fuelled it with fake images etc and then berated the public for wondering/worrying about what was going on.

It’s a text book case on how not to ‘manage’ a highly sensitive situation. It will probably be used as a future case study. BP handled it perfectly. Kate didn’t need tso much time to tell the children and to absorb the diagnosis (most of us have days/weeks)
Space and privacy are possible even after the announcement as we will hopefully see now the public knows the truth. I understand the initial shock.

We should stop raking this up now.
We can all support Kate now by allowing them the time and space to recover fully without any intrusion whatsoever.

As we dearly hope Kate will be fine in the long term, and they have caught it early. It is a shocking outcome to most of us. I hope they have privacy and peace now.

Maybe the best thing we can do is respect their wishes?

they published one photograph which had been photoshopped by Catherine in a really minor and trivial way.

It’s weird people still feel the need to try and lie about this. It was not minor. It was a faked photo where extensive pixel manipulation occurred, and several experts all stated it was a composite- the copy and paste function was also used. We now know why they did this. It was an error of judgement to try and deceive the public and was unnecessary for them to do this. I know people want to minimise it, and that occurred before the announcement, but it’s not a minor thing and there’s no point trying to pretend it was. Nobody should want photo agencies to accept manipulated photos.

It’s quite possible to have sympathy for someone who is ill and acknowledge that there was an attempt to deceive.

I agree @Polishedshoesalways BP handled it well and KP did not. I think they will have peace and privacy now, but sadly it won’t stop the unnecessary arguing and hatefulness towards each other online. That seems to have ramped up with some seeing it as an opportunity.

It was monumentally nuts of them to try and keep this quiet for so long

I find this attitude really quite objectionable. Her illness, her news, her family, her life, her choice. Doesn’t matter whether it’s the Princess of Wales or Catherine down the road.

I was speaking generally.

So we are supposed to be interested in what the royal family are doing when it suits them but pretend nothing is happening when Kate disappears behind strange photos that KP issues. It doesn't work that way. Her husband is heir to the throne. And the current king is also ill.

Whilst I can understand the Wales' not wanting Kate's cancer to be public knowledge until their children broke up from school, this could and should have been handled differently. Nobody was asking to see her medical notes. But in other countries, their press was aware that Kate was much more unwell than we were told. How? KP should simply have said that the surgery was more complicated than first thought and that she was going to need more time out of the public eye.

We all have different views on how it was handled, and I don’t think anyone can say KP managed it well. Now we know the truth, maybe the best thing is to leave it be, it’s so sad for them to be in a position of having both senior royals with cancer.

@MyopicBunny and that statement would have stopped all the shit on social media, of course it wouldn’t people would have demanded more information. FGS there are still some idiots claiming Kate’s video is fake.

Many people were happy to wait until Easter to hear an update as we were initially advised would happen. It’s the ghouls on SM who were clamouring for more, speculating all sorts that made this situation worse for Kate and the family.

I haven’t had ANYONE’S post taken down. I just said your list deflected the issue away from bullying towards NHS shortcomings. Which it did.

I have never once commented on Amy layers thread with any nastiness asking to see her, where she was, why hasn't she come out, whi s she hiding. Not one single post about it.

Don't make out I'm someone who did.

I have however questioned and criticised the communications and the fake photo because I feel strongly about the integrity of information that is reported to us. Thag in an age of fake news and misinformation it's incredibly important we have sources of information we can trust.

We won't know if had they done something different if it would of stopped the nastiness but someone asked a question and I gave my thoughts on it.