The Princess of Wales..

[CurlewKate]

I just wanted to share some thoughts I've had since talking to some RL friends last night. I'm a Republican, and didn't actually post much on any of the threads on here. But I did read them, laugh at the ones I found funny and speculated a little IRL. I enjoy robust mental health, but I feel a little sad and down today about the news. And a little guilty. It occurs to me that it might be a real source of distress to some other people. Not the big media ghouls, of course, they have no shame and will just move on to the next thing without looking back, but for those of us who bought in to the whole farrago and maybe posted things we now wish we hadn't. So remember, the media often manipulates us, the establishment often lies to us and it's actually a good thing not to immediately take what we're told at face value. Don't beat yourself up and find someone to talk to if you feel really bad about it. Take care of yourselves.

republican? american or irish?

It's OTT.

That is what they've done. You have no idea how long it was between the King's diagnosis and announcement any more than we know how long it was between Kate's.

That's funny. The thing is: none of us know Catherine but quite a few people, plus the press / SM seem to want to know all about her, often through nosiness & occasionally through concern. The RF press office don't usually handle things well (tho this was quite a tricky situation) the whole thing grows 'legs' & gets crazier than ever.
In the middle of it all is a woman with young kids, trying to protect them all whilst she gets her health attended to. There are some parallels with Diana. Some parallels with Meghan too. Obviously quite different situations & different characters to Catherine. But my point is all have been 'hounded'. They are all women (like us) We should try to walk a mile in each others shoes.

Ok you had my other reply deleted accusing me of bullying Kate . This thread is taking on an unpleasant life of it's own . I've never been a royal thread sort of person .. You accuse me of bullying , where ?

Surely this was King Charles’ choice, and probably a necessity because of his role has head of state, and a need to explain what had changed.

Trying to throw the blame around about what Catherine choose to do causing the vile speculation sounds like victim blaming to me.

There was always likely to be more speculation around Catherine’s medical condition - she is more interesting for the media and public. It started straight away when she first had the Op - people wanting to know what the abdominal surgery was, was it really routine, why is she going to be in hospital for so long, why is the recovery taking so many weeks? In fact I suspect the speculation helped lessen the focus on Charles’ condition. There is little she or KP could have done differently to avoid speculation, and hindsight is a wonderful tool.

We just need to stop and think about the impact rumour and gossip has on the lives of others. It’s a question of considering where the boundaries of our interest should be.

I am not the poster you addressed but it's plain to see that you were not accused of bullying Kate. You tried to deflect the thread to address the shortcomings of the NHS. Totally irrelevant. What the poster was saying, would you have been ok with the bullying if the NHS was fit for purpose?

Perhaps if you had omitted the rude expletive your post would have stood.

The boundaries should be where the subject of the issue wants them, if it's a personal matter.

I don't think it mattered what KP said, people would still run wild with theories, nasty memes etc. They did initially say she'd had surgery and taking a break. People on social media and forums etc weren't happy
with only that information and been goading for more details for weeks.

There's been a level of nastiness and gang mentality I've not seen before. And it continues even after the statement yesterday.

Anybody normal wondered what was going on. You'd be absolutely strange to not wonder what was happening. To chat about it on Mumsnet? Absolutely fine. I'm pretty sure the royal family expect people to talk about them. I doubt Kate was on here reading our chat. Completely and utterly normal to chat about it. The royals know better than to read their press or social media.

The people trying to shame others for discussing it are absolutely bizarre. Very holier than thou.

And yes, I do feel very sorry for her. It's really sad that she has cancer, at such a young age, and rubbish having to go through that in the public eye. But also way more awesome than going through it as an ordinary member of the public, who likely wouldn't even know they had cancer yet, because they'd still be waiting to see a consultant.

I don't really care about any royals to be honest . But random people on a thread being accused of bullying , the irony .

@TwoWithCurls - this was "chatting about it on Mumsnet"? No, it was far worse than that.
No-one is going to complain about harmless "chat".

The farm video has been checked and checked again by both Sky and the Sun, who paid a small fortune for it, and put it through recognition software. They have both said it was W&K. But, even if it isn't W&K, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with KP. They have never said a single thing about the video, they are not responsible for its existence, its distribution or its authentication. IT is nothing to do with any PR strategy on their part at all.

Again with the "someone in the car". The RF have said nothing other than to ask that unauthorized pap shots not be taken and to leave her alone. They had nothing to do with its existence.

That leaves the MD photo. Yes, Catherine is the regular family photographer, so logic dictates that she'd be the one who'd know how to touch it up with photoshop software. That it had to be released at all was the result of loons wanting proof of life and not leaving her alone. That it was picked apart by news agencies that regularly print, without question, heavily photoshopped images all the time, is a result of the same loons demanding validation for their lunatic theories.

She's a bloody wrong woman who has taken responsibility for the MD photo. But the lunatic fringe who insist still on a conspiracy cannot accept that. I'm supporting her as a senior royal with agency, as a responsible woman who doesn't hide behind men and as the boss of her comms team who knows the buck stops with her and her husband. I'm not the misogynist here, nor one of the loons pedaling conspiracy theories about her.

So it’s normal to chat about a woman who we have been told is having major surgery, to say she is in fact dead, in a coma, getting divorced, being beaten up, husband having an affair, fathered another child. Funnily enough I don’t think of all those things when someone I know is having surgery

"Chat about it on MN"???? Did you read the vile, twisted lies that were being posted? That is NOT FINE!!

And the shyte about her treatment being superior has been done to death, and it not relevant.

She's our future queen, and a mother of three young children. Do you want a widowed king, and three motherless children? Of course she should have the best of treatment. So should everyone, but that's not the point of this post.

If an ordinary member of the public had planned surgery, and cancer was discovered, I don't imagine the protocol would be that different. I had a tumour identified at an unrelated ultrasound. Thank god mine was benign, but I was whipped in within weeks and had it removed. NHS.

Be fair people, it's not as if there's been an event concerning the Princess of Wales where people got all her up and howled about something that was none of their business in living memory.

Oh wait...

Usually indifferent, but I really feel for William. First lunatics demand his presence in London when his mum died, and wail at him during her funeral. Then the exact same type of credulous moron hounds his wife.

Well you weren't so you can untwist your knickers.

Why are you so offended by the speculation? If you didn't want to speculate, that's fine (boring, believe everything you're told sort of fine), don't join those threads. But no, we don't care if you don't like it.

@TwoWithCurls wow! Would you like to be talked about like that, if you have a DD would you like people speculating like that?

Well any poster who contributed to the lies and absolute nonsense spouted here with zero evidence have a serious character flaw.

"Boring" - my arse - what is actually wrong with you?

I'm glad I didn't "believe everything I was told" or I'd have believed William was a wife-beater whose wife was in a coma and they were getting a divorce and he killed his second cousin's husband.

It doesn't make you clever to speculate like that - it makes you look like an unpleasant person to put it mildly and a fool.

Exactly! We're talking about people that believe that William k#lled Thomas Kingston after finding out that Kate is pregnant with his baby (those tweets got 10s of thousands of likes)

Or that William b.at Kate so hard that he k#lled her or put her in a coma (those tweets got 10s of thousands of likes)

You can't reason with people like thet

You can't and clearly the curly lady above is one of their number.

You mean if I was world famous, strangers I've never met, never will, and have no knowledge of their conversation? I think I'd consider myself an abject failure at my profession if they weren't talking about me and wondering what was going on...

Certainly true in this case.

But we still need to be cynically cautious with the desire of many public figures to obscure the truth.

Believing Boris Johnson over Partygate, or permitting TV presenters to abuse their power and influence with sexual harassment. We do need the press to expose this type of abuse of power.

However I would say much ‘investigative’ journalism these days seems to go for the easiest and most lucrative victims. The ‘Public Interest’ versus in the ‘Interest of the Public’ debate seems to have well and truly disappeared.

@Canthave2manycats hahaha no, I didn't have any insane theories like that. I only made a couple of comments, but I enjoyed the threads, they were an interesting read.

I also find your extreme reaction to those people insane. All this holier than thou rubbish. It's just gossip. Pure and simple.