Calling her Kate Middleton seems so disrespectful

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In the midst of all this, I hope that anyone who reports on or speaks about the matter can refrain from calling her Kate Middleton. She is the Princess of Wales, and that's that.

Other than that, I sincerely pray that she and the family are offered privacy and respect that they themselves ask for, and deserve.

I lost a SiL to a rare cancer, she died when her children were still young.
Kate Middleton has much bigger concerns, her children and getting through treatments.

Diana Spencer, Sarah Ferguson and Elizabeth Bowes Lyon were all talked about by their given names, as is Megan Markle.

We think we know them (that’s how celebrity works) so it would be odd to use their titles.

If you must be preoccupied by Kate Middleton / The POW, this is not the thing to focus on.

"She" is of course HRH, The Princess of Wales now.

"aitch” thread?

@Jetstream

In AIBU, running since yesterday, last commented on about 8.05 this evening.

I’ll stick with Kate Middleton.

I have empathy for her as a human being but I don’t respect the title.

I don’t think its worth getting upset about. It is common for Royal wives to be referred to by a name that reflects their previous social status.

Anne Boleyn. Elizabeth Woodville. A long time ago, but both these ‘commoner’ Queens are always referred to in this way.

Queen Alexandra (wife of Edward VII) and Queen Mary (wife of George V) are not. They were European Royalty before marriage.

There are no doubt exceptions to this reasoning but as others have said, Diana was often ‘Lady Di’ (which refers to her previous aristocratic status and was guaranteed to sell newspapers) right up until her death.

How on earth does this affect your life, OP? Why do you give a fuck about how a random woman who doesn’t know or care about your existence, is referred to in the media?

also, you repeatedly claim to be not a royalist or a fan or a forelock-tugging peasant, but I can’t imagine anyone caring about this unless they were one (or more) of the above.

Exactly this, people still say Cheryl Cole for example.

She has my sympathy for her travails but an unearned title relating to a country she lived in briefly - no thanks - I’ll stick with Kate Middleton

Diana was Lady Di for most of her marriage and Sarah Ferguson has always been Fergie to the British public.

And yes you do risk sounding like a forelock tugging peasant.

In the scheme of things it is not important. However, I agree with OP and wondered why certain media referred to HRH Kate as KM.

And anyone who abbreviates it to PoW is just an idiot.

You surely can't expect people to be typing out "Princess of Wales" in full when "Kate" would suffice on a MN thread. Surely.

Harry her brother in law has just issued a statement calling her Kate! Maybe send him an email...

I think it's the least of her problems right now.

https://news.sky.com/story/harry-and-meghan-share-message-of-support-for-kate-13100084

Harry & Meghan refer to her as Kate in their statement tonight.. Call the police!

Anne Boleyn. Elizabeth Woodville. A long time ago, but both these ‘commoner’ Queens are always referred to in this way.

Quite. And Elizabeth’s surname wasn’t even Woodville when she married the king!

Names and titles aren't the same thing. She is the Princess of Wales as well as being the Duchess of Cambridge and a number of other titles. She is also Catherine and Kate given that Kate is just short for Catherine.

And if she did change her name on marriage as wll as her title who knows what it is? I don't. Is her surname now Windsor? Wales? Cambridge? Mountbatten-Windsor? I think it's still Middleton and she just changed her title.

None of it matters.

@DappledThings according to many here on Mumsnet she's called Catherine in private by all not Kate.. Obviously Harry & Meghan have just debunked that myth..

Seems like it, eh?

@musthorse is correct - in Scotland your birth name is your legal name for life, unless you're adopted or change it by deed poll. If you choose to take your husband's name on marriage it's a courtesy name only.

I don't think Kate Middleton had any choice though, as the monarchy is notoriously stuffy and old-fashioned in these matters.

No other rational country gives a shit about this nonsense.

See, her name is Kate! Let the woman be and let her use her name.

Also how on earth would they know that?

If you think she had any choice over what she is known as you are laughably ignorant.

"Oh, by the way, I'll be keeping my own surname!" That was never ever an option she would have been able to choose. I'll call her Kate Middleton in honour of the fact that she may well have much preferred to keep her name.

@LighthouseTheme will also need to take the matter up with the publishers of school history books:

Katherine of Aragon
Anne Boleyn
Jane Seymour
Anne of Cleves
Katherine Howard
Katherine Parr

Kate is fine. Kate Wales is ok. Kate Middleton is also ok.
She is just a woman who sadly has cancer.
It isn't disrespectful to call her Kate M.

If you are so concerned about offering her
privacy and respect why are you starting threads on Kate?