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HRH The Princess of Wales Is Being Treated For Cancer

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TheSquareMile · 22/03/2024 18:02

Radio 4 announcing it now.

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ForestBather · 22/03/2024 23:32

5YearsLeft · 22/03/2024 23:21

With kindness, I completely respect how you think you’d feel. But this is a bit contradictory. As you say, the outcome is “just luck.” So that’s why it can be so detrimental to call it a “fight.” What effect does fighting have if it’s just luck?

I know I’ve said it before, but I think it’s so much more important to love yourself and your life than hate your cancer, to focus on the positive that you want to remain here for, as opposed to feeling like you’re fighting an intruder in your own body. I’ve worked with a lot of cancer patients, most of them terminal, and quite a few were really “hurt” by this fighting/failing narrative.

Sorry, I don’t want to derail. I did make a joke about there being no Banksy paintings since the PoW has been ill, (I still think that would be hilarious), but I couldn’t believe the vitriol of some of the threads lately about how the public was “owed” her medical info by now.

Regardless of rather they’re rich or royal, at the center of this are three young children who have always had a steady connection to their grandfather and a constant connection to their mother. The fear must be absolutely horrendous; I can’t imagine. I do hope for the very best possible outcomes for the whole family.

I appreciate the perspective and will certainly be aware of how other people might feel about it.

I have lost people to cancer and I don't think they fought any less than someone who recovered. So much depends on the type of cancer, when it's found, and sometimes treatment works and sometimes it doesn't. I don't think that speaks to the determination of the person undergoing treatment. I agree it's insulting to think it does.

I don't have cancer but I do have a condition I am actively engaging with at present. Whether I succeed or not says nothing about my determination. I don't have that kind of control. I can do my best though, and that's all anyone can ask of anyone with any condition. You're right though, I don't actually think of it as a battle. I'm getting on with normal life while just doing my best with what is available for the best outcome possible. I'll give it my best and then it does what it does.

CurrentHun · 22/03/2024 23:32

I feel really sorry for her poor thing. How awful the lack of privacy on top of serious illness.

CaterhamReconstituted · 22/03/2024 23:32

OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 23:30

But a divorcee and his affair partner are ALREADY head of the Church of England, as monarchs?

There’s only one monarch. But yes. The CoE changed their position on allowing divorcees to remarry, in 2002. But it’s still damaging to the monarchy.

OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 23:35

CaterhamReconstituted · 22/03/2024 23:32

There’s only one monarch. But yes. The CoE changed their position on allowing divorcees to remarry, in 2002. But it’s still damaging to the monarchy.

Meh, it’s normal now, surely?!?

CaterhamReconstituted · 22/03/2024 23:39

OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 23:35

Meh, it’s normal now, surely?!?

It is normal now, but those of us who are monarchists understand that the monarchy is not meant to be modern. It is a link with the past, with enduring traditions, symbols and protocols. Weaken them and you weaken the monarchy, and eventually the monarchy will collapse. It will become harder to resist the argument that the monarchy is out of date and should be abolished once you have already conceded that certain rules are anachronistic and should be updated. Every royal divorce is a blow to the monarchy. I think there is a good chance the monarchy will be abolished in my lifetime.

OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 23:46

I honestly didn’t think many would care King Charles is divorced and would
care even less if William was when/if he ascends to the throne. I guess some do!

Veggieburgers · 22/03/2024 23:50

Get well soon Kate.

Careforcarers · 22/03/2024 23:54

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 22/03/2024 18:38

She has balls of steel making that announcement in person.

Sadly the vile individuals on social media have made her do so. Spiteful, nasty individuals. Tic toc, X and MN threads taking the piss ( so many filter their own pictures), massive speculation of idiots.

Leave the woman and her family alone.

BoysBagsShoes · 22/03/2024 23:56

CassandraWebb · 22/03/2024 23:19

Would you do this for people with other diagnoses or does it have to be cancer to have you rallying around like that?

Just curious as people seem to treat it like it is some how apart from all other conditions, yet there are lots of other devastating health conditions

I’d be ‘rallying around like that’ (as you so nicely put it) it for any neighbour or friend I knew who had a serious diagnoses…or was going through a tough time in general…because it’s important to think of others and support them in their time of need.

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 00:02

BoysBagsShoes · 22/03/2024 23:56

I’d be ‘rallying around like that’ (as you so nicely put it) it for any neighbour or friend I knew who had a serious diagnoses…or was going through a tough time in general…because it’s important to think of others and support them in their time of need.

I didn't mean it in a mean way. It's lovely you would do that.

It's just hard because overall there seems to be a weird dichotomy in how people react to a cancer diagnosis Vs other equally devastating diagnoses (see all the hand wringing now we know KM has cancer not "serious abdominal surgery") and I don't really understand why.

5YearsLeft · 23/03/2024 00:07

ForestBather · 22/03/2024 23:32

I appreciate the perspective and will certainly be aware of how other people might feel about it.

I have lost people to cancer and I don't think they fought any less than someone who recovered. So much depends on the type of cancer, when it's found, and sometimes treatment works and sometimes it doesn't. I don't think that speaks to the determination of the person undergoing treatment. I agree it's insulting to think it does.

I don't have cancer but I do have a condition I am actively engaging with at present. Whether I succeed or not says nothing about my determination. I don't have that kind of control. I can do my best though, and that's all anyone can ask of anyone with any condition. You're right though, I don't actually think of it as a battle. I'm getting on with normal life while just doing my best with what is available for the best outcome possible. I'll give it my best and then it does what it does.

I’m so sorry for your losses, and to hear that you’re dealing with a condition yourself.

I think that we agree on a major issue, which is no matter how hard you “fight,” it doesn’t always change the outcome unfortunately. And that doesn’t denigrate anyone’s fight - I absolutely agree. I think that’s why I find the “fight” idea difficult, because I hate this idea that a person “lost.” They may have passed away, but they went through everything that comes with cancer, and that massive act of bravery is not lessened by not surviving.

But I agree that if someone finds the idea of “fighting” cancer or any other disease, or a chronic illness they’re facing, helpful to keep them in a positive mindset (including royals, just like normal people), keep up their stamina, help them do the self care they need, then it’s the right choice for them. I know people deal with things differently.

So, I hope for all the best for you with your condition. I know you said you’re focusing on doing your best, so I’ll wish you luck as well.

BoysBagsShoes · 23/03/2024 00:18

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 00:02

I didn't mean it in a mean way. It's lovely you would do that.

It's just hard because overall there seems to be a weird dichotomy in how people react to a cancer diagnosis Vs other equally devastating diagnoses (see all the hand wringing now we know KM has cancer not "serious abdominal surgery") and I don't really understand why.

I think it’s because the umbrella term of ‘cancer’ covers so many bodily areas and consequently affects so many people. It does have that strange ‘uniting’ factor that resonates with so many of us, regardless of the type, stage or area.
I’ve gone through pretty rough times, with no cancer involved, and I can honestly say the support I’ve received from friends and neighbours has been so overwhelming that I don’t think it would be different if cancer had been an issue. However, I’m under no illusion that PoW and I have (ever so slightly!) different lives, with different levels of interest, scrutiny and therefore compassion. I hope her nearest and dearest are keeping her freezer stocked and the offers of dog walking and looking after the kids flowing.

Alargeoneplease89 · 23/03/2024 00:29

Happyandglorious98 · 22/03/2024 18:12

Hope everyone that speculated and laughing feels awful now horrible twats

I bet they don't because they are twats.

StrawberryJellyBelly · 23/03/2024 00:31

This is extremely upsetting. The most horrendous shock.

To all of the ugly people at MN who made fools of themselves over the last couple of months it would be nice to think you’re now ashamed of being who and what you are. But I doubt you will be.

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 00:42

StrawberryJellyBelly · 23/03/2024 00:31

This is extremely upsetting. The most horrendous shock.

To all of the ugly people at MN who made fools of themselves over the last couple of months it would be nice to think you’re now ashamed of being who and what you are. But I doubt you will be.

Only now? There were multiple devastating conditions that "serious abdominal surgery" could have been for. Any of which in and of themselves would have been traumatic and scary and life threatening and involved all sorts of unpleasant medications /procedures. I am not sure why it is only this additional news that makes it worthy of berating people.

friendlycat · 23/03/2024 00:44

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 00:42

Only now? There were multiple devastating conditions that "serious abdominal surgery" could have been for. Any of which in and of themselves would have been traumatic and scary and life threatening and involved all sorts of unpleasant medications /procedures. I am not sure why it is only this additional news that makes it worthy of berating people.

Whilst I totally agree with you, it’s apparent from so many threads on here that the majority of people didn’t even consider the possibilities.

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 00:50

friendlycat · 23/03/2024 00:44

Whilst I totally agree with you, it’s apparent from so many threads on here that the majority of people didn’t even consider the possibilities.

I know..I just find the narrative that cancer is so much worse than these other possibilities so ignorant. It could have been organ failure/organ transplant for starters. That's pretty bloody terrifying and high risk.

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 00:50

friendlycat · 23/03/2024 00:44

Whilst I totally agree with you, it’s apparent from so many threads on here that the majority of people didn’t even consider the possibilities.

I know..I just find the narrative that cancer is so much worse than these other possibilities so ignorant. It could have been organ failure/organ transplant for starters. That's pretty bloody terrifying and high risk.

BemusedAmerican · 23/03/2024 01:00

A number of posters in the past few weeks seemed to think:

  • the POW should have no privacy, including health issues
  • Prince William abused her/locked her in the attic/ buried her in the garden
  • the POW and her husband are lazy and workshy (this one a lot)
  • Prince William was not entitled to spend time with his family
  • the royal family is owned by the tax-paying public and like robots should work 24/7
  • there also seems to be people complaining over the quality of their private health care

Here in the US, healthcare is very uneven since we have no NHS. Both my parents died of cancer. Both were lucky to have good healthcare through their jobs. No one at their funerals even brought up the subject of how they paid for the healthcare or whether it at a public or private hospital. People were just upset that they died. And at least they didn't have to do a public announcement to our village to prove to conspiracy theorists that they were still alive and legitimately sick.

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 01:06

Obviously there's going to be different opinions on this matter but from most posts it seems to be leave her alone and with that in mind ,I fail to see how these threads are still going considering the gossiping over someone else's medical condition.

StrawberryJellyBelly · 23/03/2024 01:10

Only now? There were multiple devastating conditions that "serious abdominal surgery" could have been for. Any of which in and of themselves would have been traumatic and scary and life threatening and involved all sorts of unpleasant medications /procedures. I am not sure why it is only this additional news that makes it worthy of berating people

Yes. It’s the most horrendous of shocks - as someone who also received a cancer diagnosis under the same body slamming circumstances as the POW.

Now bugger off.

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 01:12

StrawberryJellyBelly · 23/03/2024 01:10

Only now? There were multiple devastating conditions that "serious abdominal surgery" could have been for. Any of which in and of themselves would have been traumatic and scary and life threatening and involved all sorts of unpleasant medications /procedures. I am not sure why it is only this additional news that makes it worthy of berating people

Yes. It’s the most horrendous of shocks - as someone who also received a cancer diagnosis under the same body slamming circumstances as the POW.

Now bugger off.

My point is people should have already been being totally understanding and allowing her privacy.

Theres no need for rudeness.

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 01:13

Ps I have heart failure so pretty sure I don't need a lecture from anyone about rubbish medical news.

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 01:21

It's not just the here and now ,it was the where's Katie type threads ...like it was a game and the crackpot theories.many pp on these threads...said leave her as anyone with an ounce of decency would be saying.

CassandraWebb · 23/03/2024 01:33

Northernsouloldies · 23/03/2024 01:21

It's not just the here and now ,it was the where's Katie type threads ...like it was a game and the crackpot theories.many pp on these threads...said leave her as anyone with an ounce of decency would be saying.

I agree. It was vile to do this from the outset. We had been told she had had serious abdominal surgery. That should have been enough on it's own to shut everyone up