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HRH The Princess of Wales Is Being Treated For Cancer

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TheSquareMile · 22/03/2024 18:02

Radio 4 announcing it now.

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OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 22:40

I don’t get how an affair by William and subsequent divorce from Kate would affect the constitution?

Charles is already divorced, he had a well known about, publicised affair, his affair partner is now queen, he is king? It’s been done already?

Rosscameasdoody · 22/03/2024 22:40

madeinmanc · 22/03/2024 22:07

Nothing's changed since the lifetime of Princess Diana, if anything the pressure on them is more intense. No lessons have been learned.

I’m old enough to remember the way Diana was treated. There was no social media then and the only ‘access’ the public had was via the press and the media. After she died, there was a public, and to my mind utterly hypocritical, outpouring of ‘grief’ from the very same public whose voracious appetite for every detail of her private life was responsible for her being harangued into mental health and eating disorders and eventually pursued to her death. So no. Definitely no lessons learned if the latest frenzy is anything to go by.

OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 22:42

I apologise for the double message by me but wanted to keep this separate. I’m not a huge royalist, don’t mind them, like princess Anne, (yeah, I have had extensive personal contact through horses on numerous occasions) and Zara (same) but I wish the entire family, Charles, Catherine, all of the family (bar Andrew) extremely well on this and most other issues. Andrew can go swivel.

MumHereAgain2023 · 22/03/2024 22:46

SnugglyJumpersMakeItBetter · 22/03/2024 22:16

with the old “fighting cancer” milarky. It’s not a bloody fight, it’s stressful, painful, demanding, all consuming… but to say people die becuase they “loose” the fight, or they don’t die becuase they “battled” or “won an fight “ marks out those that died from cancer as being less determined, strong willed, etc. and that’s complete bollocks.

I absolutely agree!

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I absolutely agree. Lost two very close to me from cancer. Did they not put up enough of a battle Angry

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/03/2024 22:46

Is she?! How did I miss this?!!!!

Thank you so much for sharing this information because the TV news, the BBC news app and literally every single SM site in the world seems to have missed it.

Ghoul.

SuperFi · 22/03/2024 22:51

@thegirlwithemousyhair I agree. I also fear that the 3 start members at the hospital where Kate was treated may have already sold the medical data. Their suspensions were only a couple of days ago. The announcement would nullify any potential scoop, but it is so awful that she had to do it, to stop this and insane rumour mill.

thegirlwithemousyhair · 22/03/2024 22:53

Let's just hope to God she gets better.

SuperFi · 22/03/2024 22:55

Amen to that @thegirlwithemousyhair

Nonewclothes2024 · 22/03/2024 22:55

Wendysfriend · 22/03/2024 19:05

Isn't it terrible that she actually had to come forward and make a video to put a stop to the nasty comments and speculations made about her and William, how difficult must that have been.

Exactly.
I hope all the absolute lunatics on MN will shut up now.

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/03/2024 22:55

MumHereAgain2023 · 22/03/2024 22:46

I absolutely agree. Lost two very close to me from cancer. Did they not put up enough of a battle Angry

I couldnt agree more.
Is someone "fighting" cancer? No! I hate the anthropomorphising of illness in this way. Like the Stand up to cancer thing.....it raises money for research and treatment which is great and pulling on the heartstrings helps do that but saying "We are coming for you Cancer!" gives it an agency its simply doesnt have and perpetuates the myth.

Its also, as you say, implies that people who pass as a result of cancer have somehow not fought hard enough. I know several people who have had it and survived and then others who didnt make it. They all "fought" just as hard as each other.

BoysBagsShoes · 22/03/2024 22:56

There still many of us who get ‘the dread’ when feeling like others are speculating about us, in our normal, everyday lives. Now imagine it’s everyone you know, plus the whole world.
I don’t know the Royals, but I do know they’re a mum, dad, grandparents and family for whom cancer has the same effect as it does on us all; trying to be hopeful and balancing those feelings of fear, doing your best to keep smiling for the little ones and thinking ‘what happens next’…
If I’d found out my neighbour had cancer after having a major op, on top of their father in law having cancer, their mum in law no longer here and their brother estranged, I’d be popping round with a lasagne and a bunch of flowers pronto and asking what else I could do. Shame on you if you wouldn’t do the same.
Get well soon Catherine, I’m a mean batch-cook if you need it x

Helpisso · 22/03/2024 22:57

Nonewclothes2024 · 22/03/2024 22:55

Exactly.
I hope all the absolute lunatics on MN will shut up now.

Unfortunately the weirdos and trolls will carry on ,sad but true!!

thegirlwithemousyhair · 22/03/2024 23:02

Media clowns already now trying to back track and pretend like they were the adults in the room rather than the bullies in the playground.

Helpisso · 22/03/2024 23:04

BoysBagsShoes · 22/03/2024 22:56

There still many of us who get ‘the dread’ when feeling like others are speculating about us, in our normal, everyday lives. Now imagine it’s everyone you know, plus the whole world.
I don’t know the Royals, but I do know they’re a mum, dad, grandparents and family for whom cancer has the same effect as it does on us all; trying to be hopeful and balancing those feelings of fear, doing your best to keep smiling for the little ones and thinking ‘what happens next’…
If I’d found out my neighbour had cancer after having a major op, on top of their father in law having cancer, their mum in law no longer here and their brother estranged, I’d be popping round with a lasagne and a bunch of flowers pronto and asking what else I could do. Shame on you if you wouldn’t do the same.
Get well soon Catherine, I’m a mean batch-cook if you need it x

Absolutely agree ! Am planning on being there for my neighbour who is being investigated for mouth cancer,unfortunately her symptoms are ominous. Am ready to jump in and do anything to help her .

Helpisso · 22/03/2024 23:08

thegirlwithemousyhair · 22/03/2024 23:02

Media clowns already now trying to back track and pretend like they were the adults in the room rather than the bullies in the playground.

Particularly Sarah Vine ,Amanda Platell and Liz Jones from the DM . Yes admit I read their comments and their tone changed over the last few days ..I called them out ie humble pie! but my comment not published!!

ForestBather · 22/03/2024 23:09

I don't agree that the terminology 'winning/losing the battle with cancer' is victim blaming or says anything about the person's determination. If I got cancer, I'd fight it and know it's a battle I may or may not win. It's not my fault which way it turns out, just luck.

CassandraWebb · 22/03/2024 23:14

fleurneige · 22/03/2024 22:23

This, big time. Including on MN! (and I am no Royalist)

It was just as disgusting when we were told it was serious abdominal surgery though. They clearly weren't just whipping her appendix out.

I don't get why the behaviour is suddenly seen as more reprehensible now we know it is cancer.

There are so many devastating/terrifying/life limiting etc conditions other than cancer.

I never got the weird sigh of relief that "KP has confirmed it's not cancer".

There are plenty of other damn scary and unpleasant things to be diagnosed with and she (and others) deserve the same amount of sympathy and empathy whether it is cancer or something else.

Health isn't a binary

Amara123 · 22/03/2024 23:17

The worst part of the whole thing was that she had been ill and the ham fisted pr meant she had to come out a few times to clarify this.
Really I don't know why others in the royal family weren't asked to help.

I think they should have handled it better and I felt for her having to get done up to do that video, which wasn't necessary. A statement would have been adequate.

CassandraWebb · 22/03/2024 23:19

BoysBagsShoes · 22/03/2024 22:56

There still many of us who get ‘the dread’ when feeling like others are speculating about us, in our normal, everyday lives. Now imagine it’s everyone you know, plus the whole world.
I don’t know the Royals, but I do know they’re a mum, dad, grandparents and family for whom cancer has the same effect as it does on us all; trying to be hopeful and balancing those feelings of fear, doing your best to keep smiling for the little ones and thinking ‘what happens next’…
If I’d found out my neighbour had cancer after having a major op, on top of their father in law having cancer, their mum in law no longer here and their brother estranged, I’d be popping round with a lasagne and a bunch of flowers pronto and asking what else I could do. Shame on you if you wouldn’t do the same.
Get well soon Catherine, I’m a mean batch-cook if you need it x

Would you do this for people with other diagnoses or does it have to be cancer to have you rallying around like that?

Just curious as people seem to treat it like it is some how apart from all other conditions, yet there are lots of other devastating health conditions

5YearsLeft · 22/03/2024 23:21

ForestBather · 22/03/2024 23:09

I don't agree that the terminology 'winning/losing the battle with cancer' is victim blaming or says anything about the person's determination. If I got cancer, I'd fight it and know it's a battle I may or may not win. It's not my fault which way it turns out, just luck.

With kindness, I completely respect how you think you’d feel. But this is a bit contradictory. As you say, the outcome is “just luck.” So that’s why it can be so detrimental to call it a “fight.” What effect does fighting have if it’s just luck?

I know I’ve said it before, but I think it’s so much more important to love yourself and your life than hate your cancer, to focus on the positive that you want to remain here for, as opposed to feeling like you’re fighting an intruder in your own body. I’ve worked with a lot of cancer patients, most of them terminal, and quite a few were really “hurt” by this fighting/failing narrative.

Sorry, I don’t want to derail. I did make a joke about there being no Banksy paintings since the PoW has been ill, (I still think that would be hilarious), but I couldn’t believe the vitriol of some of the threads lately about how the public was “owed” her medical info by now.

Regardless of rather they’re rich or royal, at the center of this are three young children who have always had a steady connection to their grandfather and a constant connection to their mother. The fear must be absolutely horrendous; I can’t imagine. I do hope for the very best possible outcomes for the whole family.

Thinkbiglittleone · 22/03/2024 23:22

same with the old “fighting cancer” milarky. It’s not a bloody fight, it’s stressful, painful, demanding, all consuming… but to say people die becuase they “loose” the fight, or they don’t die becuase they “battled” or “won an fight “ marks out those that died from cancer as being less determined, strong willed, etc. and that’s complete bollocks. The type of cancer, the stage it was identified, the genetics factors, pre existing conditions, age, sex, and individual responses to treatment determine whether you survive. Yes, a resilient mind set is possibly a factor to help reduce stress which is known to hinder recovery form any illness, but whether you survive or not is NOT down to whether you were good at “fighting” it. Or how brave you were. It’s ok to be not brave, firgging scared and impatient, and not very nice at times due to stress. We’re not hero’s all the time.
I couldn't agree more, my amazing mum didn't die because she didn't fight hard enough, a vile illness took her, despite her fighting and longing to stay with us longer. Ohhh I get so annoyed with that idiotic tripe.

Yes it's sad for her and the kids, she will start chemo, having the best doctors and medical treatment around. I hope her l kids are ok it must be hard having such famous parents who's lives are of public interest,

CaterhamReconstituted · 22/03/2024 23:28

OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 22:40

I don’t get how an affair by William and subsequent divorce from Kate would affect the constitution?

Charles is already divorced, he had a well known about, publicised affair, his affair partner is now queen, he is king? It’s been done already?

It wouldn’t affect William assuming the throne of course. But under the constitution the monarch is the head of the Church of England. A divorcee as the head of the Church is very damaging to the monarchy. Anyway, all academic now. God bless the Princess of Wales and wish her a speedy recovery.

OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 23:30

CaterhamReconstituted · 22/03/2024 23:28

It wouldn’t affect William assuming the throne of course. But under the constitution the monarch is the head of the Church of England. A divorcee as the head of the Church is very damaging to the monarchy. Anyway, all academic now. God bless the Princess of Wales and wish her a speedy recovery.

But a divorcee and his affair partner are ALREADY head of the Church of England, as monarchs?

Fizbosshoes · 22/03/2024 23:30

MissMelanieH · 22/03/2024 19:09

Actually I feel incredibly sad for her that she was pushed into doing this by all the gossip, rumours and speculation.
I wish her well and hope that people will leave the family alone to deal with their personal medical difficulties.

Agree - having surgery and then finding out that and processing it within your family and finding a way to tell your kids must be hideous enough, without having to a) appear on camera and b) announce and explain to Joe public what's going on behind closed doors

OzziePopPop · 22/03/2024 23:30

Sorry, I’m autistic, just don’t get it…