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TMZ Producer says it ‘might not’ be Kate!

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Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 04:14

So after days of so many of us saying it is not Catherine, and being screamed at, shut down and called ‘crazies’ and ‘trolls’ and all kinds of offensive names. It turns out we were right after all. It does not appear to be Cathrrine (no shock there for many of us) According to the producer that beamed this out across the world. Clearly unverified. Incredible that the news outlets just went along with it - no questions asked. What does that say about the quality of our journalism?

It was a huge gas lighting exercise.

So now we know we have one fake Mother’s Day photo and now one fake farm shop footage - it begs the question in a much more pressing way - where is Catherine? The stupid memes have to stop. This isn’t funny or anything to joke about.

No one can verify even a single shot ( I am discounting the photo of Pippa in the car with Carole, and someone’s head in the car turned away in windsor)

I don’t believe we are going to see Catherine this Easter or at any time soon. I don’t know where she is, or what has happened to her but I feel extremely worried for her.

I await Kensington Palace’s statement - it’s about time we learnt the truth. How can it be any worse than what has been speculated?

What will happen next? As this can not continue any longer.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

Kate Middleton farm shop video 'isn't her' claims TMZ producer who bought clip

The Princess Kate saga continues to rumble on as the executive producer from TMZ cast their own doubt on whether the farm clip was actually her, despite running the footage

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/kate-middleton-farm-shop-video-32398541.amp

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WibblyWobblyJane · 21/03/2024 12:58

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 12:56

Again, and I will keep pointing it out, it was not a simple edit or filter, it was extensive pixel manipulation and a composite of photos, the photo they released was never taken. This was a fake photo.

Well no, it was edited twice. Not extensive.

Mirabai · 21/03/2024 12:58

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 12:55

It does to me! Completely 100% like her. And if you watch the actual video rather than go by the stills, it's even more so.

It's like that blue dress/gold dress phenomenon!

I have watched it several times. There is one frame in which her face looks very like, but otherwise she’s too thin, far too young, and has a different face shape, walk and mannerisms. No idea why people are fooled by it tbh.

LittleGlowingOblong · 21/03/2024 13:02

For comparison sake:

Say Taylor Swift suddenly went in for “planned surgery”. And yet a couple of her tour concerts were suddenly cancelled.

There were a few photos of her, but they were found to be faked. A published author and music journalist doubled down on her assertions that TS had been more gravely ill than had been understood, in a coma even. TS’s lawyers did nothing. The only sighting of her partner was of him in a car approaching the hospital, with his ex-employee (and rumoured ex-lover, according to the gutter press.)

Radio silence from her mum, and her manager. Long-standing rumours of a troubled lovelife, bandaged fingers, her partner berating her in public.

Does that help the “it’s only a family photo fgs” people see why a certain level of concern is legitimate? Or not?

Roussette · 21/03/2024 13:04

WibblyWobblyJane · 21/03/2024 12:58

Well no, it was edited twice. Not extensive.

I thought there were numerous edits, about twenty ?
20 'anomalies' according to the Guardian

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 13:05

Mirabai · 21/03/2024 12:58

I have watched it several times. There is one frame in which her face looks very like, but otherwise she’s too thin, far too young, and has a different face shape, walk and mannerisms. No idea why people are fooled by it tbh.

Meanwhile, I don't get why people can't see it's her! She's walking in trainers so her gait is different from what we're used to seeing in high heels. I don't think she looks any thinner than usual – she's painfully thin full stop. She looks fresh-faced because she isn't wearing make-up - her usual heavy eyeliner/eyebrows look is dated and tends to age her. There's one still from it that is so obviously her I find it baffling people can't see it!

TMZ Producer says it ‘might not’ be Kate!
Spectre8 · 21/03/2024 13:05

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 12:37

The editing of the Mother's Day photo was a mistake, but this is something that Catherine owned up to however misguided it was in the first place. But we all make mistakes.

I am tired of this line, its crazy to me anyone is still saying this given the coverage of actual experts commenting on the level of photo manipulation that was contained. It is NOT a mistake to ADD IN Kate to that photo and claim William himself took a photo that actually does not exist. Either she was not in it, or she was but they replaced her. Why? This has not been answered yet, and they owe it to the public who they wilfully set out to deceive. They not only created a fake photo, they also said Prince William, our future King, took the photo.

Exactly, noone let Boris off for lying to the publiccan you imagine someone saying but you know he was just confused on the rules and he did apologise after lying so thats okay its alrite after all he was under alot of pressue with the pandemic going on so lets fice him a break and stop hounding he about it. I mean lots of us did it too (secretly) so who cares right....

you know in no way anyone would ever say that.

So why are people more willing to accept it if it's kate...strange

Pepsiisbetterthancoke · 21/03/2024 13:05

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 10:36

Yes the BBC, Sky news to name a few.

Any reports I saw on Sky were very careful around their wording - lots of “claims” and “allegedly” in their reporting. They certainly didn’t say it was a fact when I saw them talking about it, same on their website

In fact this wording was actually brought up on other threads with posters saying that they must not believe it’s real if they are saying such things as “claiming”

WibblyWobblyJane · 21/03/2024 13:06

LittleGlowingOblong · 21/03/2024 13:02

For comparison sake:

Say Taylor Swift suddenly went in for “planned surgery”. And yet a couple of her tour concerts were suddenly cancelled.

There were a few photos of her, but they were found to be faked. A published author and music journalist doubled down on her assertions that TS had been more gravely ill than had been understood, in a coma even. TS’s lawyers did nothing. The only sighting of her partner was of him in a car approaching the hospital, with his ex-employee (and rumoured ex-lover, according to the gutter press.)

Radio silence from her mum, and her manager. Long-standing rumours of a troubled lovelife, bandaged fingers, her partner berating her in public.

Does that help the “it’s only a family photo fgs” people see why a certain level of concern is legitimate? Or not?

No because it’s all made up and only being repeated by people who are not credible, in my opinion, with respect to the subject based on words in their own posts.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 21/03/2024 13:06

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 21/03/2024 09:53

I don’t think it’s her in the farm shop video. Looks like a younger woman. I’m finding the whole thing fascinating as to what, if anything, is going on. May be something. May be nothing but it’s certainly interesting

Hi

As i stated many times, the pic on mothers sunday, it was not it was supposed to be, hence no original and then the appearcned this Sunday.

In the video at the farm shop, 101% Kate, wish her well and nice to see her

I guess there will be more pics from the farm shop as I'm sure more than one person recognised her - it was HRH Kate, 100 and I state my reputation on this

EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 13:08

Pepsiisbetterthancoke · 21/03/2024 13:05

Any reports I saw on Sky were very careful around their wording - lots of “claims” and “allegedly” in their reporting. They certainly didn’t say it was a fact when I saw them talking about it, same on their website

In fact this wording was actually brought up on other threads with posters saying that they must not believe it’s real if they are saying such things as “claiming”

Yes did the BBC say this too?

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 13:09

You must have missed your shift OP. Either that or you are not exactly giving 100% to your job

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 13:09

WibblyWobblyJane · 21/03/2024 12:58

Well no, it was edited twice. Not extensive.

Nope. The saved edits don't indicate how many areas of the photo were manipulated, thats just when the edits that someone did were saved.

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 21/03/2024 13:09

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 21/03/2024 13:06

Hi

As i stated many times, the pic on mothers sunday, it was not it was supposed to be, hence no original and then the appearcned this Sunday.

In the video at the farm shop, 101% Kate, wish her well and nice to see her

I guess there will be more pics from the farm shop as I'm sure more than one person recognised her - it was HRH Kate, 100 and I state my reputation on this

Interesting. I’d say it’s possibly not but it certainly looks like William. No doubt all will become evident sooner or later

PinkTonic · 21/03/2024 13:10

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:52

It wasn’t jazzed up, it didn’t even exist. Kate was never in the original photo.

No expert who has pronounced on the photo has said that.

WibblyWobblyJane · 21/03/2024 13:11

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 13:09

Nope. The saved edits don't indicate how many areas of the photo were manipulated, thats just when the edits that someone did were saved.

Yes, twice.

PinkTonic · 21/03/2024 13:12

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 13:09

You must have missed your shift OP. Either that or you are not exactly giving 100% to your job

Quite. Missing work and sleep. Very dedicated to the cause.

Mirabai · 21/03/2024 13:12

user1984778379202 · 21/03/2024 13:05

Meanwhile, I don't get why people can't see it's her! She's walking in trainers so her gait is different from what we're used to seeing in high heels. I don't think she looks any thinner than usual – she's painfully thin full stop. She looks fresh-faced because she isn't wearing make-up - her usual heavy eyeliner/eyebrows look is dated and tends to age her. There's one still from it that is so obviously her I find it baffling people can't see it!

This discussion has been done to death and is not what the thread is about. Suffice to say we’ve seen her walking in all manner of footwear including flats. She’s a very slim woman but she’s significantly slimmer here. And younger. If you’re convinced by your explanations as to why she looks different, that’s up to you. The simple explanation is that it’s not her.

LittleGlowingOblong · 21/03/2024 13:12

WibblyWobblyJane · 21/03/2024 13:06

No because it’s all made up and only being repeated by people who are not credible, in my opinion, with respect to the subject based on words in their own posts.

But everything I’ve said is in the public domain & verifiable, though I think maybe the jury’s still out over the photo of the woman’s profile in a car with William.

The only variable who keen people are - or not - to see various dots and join them up.

This is where Kensington Palace has gone wrong - it’s left the public a massive dot-to-dot puzzle (and I didn’t even include things like Taylor Swift’s f-i-l getting multiple pointed visits from his partner, etc etc etc) - and all sorts of crazy pictures are being drawn.

Theunamedcat · 21/03/2024 13:13

TinnitusEar · 21/03/2024 13:09

You must have missed your shift OP. Either that or you are not exactly giving 100% to your job

Or they are lying about their job

Maybe this is their job? It explains the dedication

IcedPurple · 21/03/2024 13:13

Severalwhippets · 21/03/2024 12:44

We should be able to speak about this without a huge pile on of people saying it’s not Easter or you are not allowed an opinion. It’s been astonishing how many threads have been hammered by those intent on killing the conversation.

What's a 'pile on'?

You started this thread. If people disagree with your contention, they're allowed to say so. Is there a limit of how many people can disagree with you before it becomes a 'pile on'?

Pepsiisbetterthancoke · 21/03/2024 13:14

EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 13:08

Yes did the BBC say this too?

I think it’s probable to cover themselves. I don’t tend to watch BBC news but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did the same

WibblyWobblyJane · 21/03/2024 13:14

LittleGlowingOblong · 21/03/2024 13:12

But everything I’ve said is in the public domain & verifiable, though I think maybe the jury’s still out over the photo of the woman’s profile in a car with William.

The only variable who keen people are - or not - to see various dots and join them up.

This is where Kensington Palace has gone wrong - it’s left the public a massive dot-to-dot puzzle (and I didn’t even include things like Taylor Swift’s f-i-l getting multiple pointed visits from his partner, etc etc etc) - and all sorts of crazy pictures are being drawn.

Yes, it’s verifiable that people make up rumors and repeat them.

areyoutheregod · 21/03/2024 13:15

WibblyWobblyJane · 21/03/2024 13:11

Yes, twice.

Again, that is just saving it twice. It does not indicate how many edits, or rather how much editing and photo manipulation took place. While some have estimated 20 to as much as 60 areas of editing, it would be hard to say conclusively exactly how many edits, but it is confirmed by several experts now that all of the manipulations, including moving of pixels, occurred right around Kate, her head and hands. Many have said it indicates she was added in, and that was confirmed to me by a professional who has been in the industry decades and photoshopped for more than 10 years. It is also confirmed it was not a single image. As I said, this photo as we saw it never existed, therefore William never took that image.

Wordsofprey · 21/03/2024 13:15

Yeah I completely don't buy it's a simple editing mistake and "oppsie! I dabble in editing and accidently added my entire face into the image and purported it to be taken by my husband". It's so outlandish that 1) they wouldn't absolutely make sure the photo was picture perfect before sending it out, knowing that people are going to pull it apart due to it being the first image of her in ages and people are seeking evidence of her being Ok, and 2) that nobody in the palace over sees photos before they are uploaded to the internet, and if they do check photos before release, they wouldnt have noticed the glaring issues with it like obvious cuffs and sleeves fading into the abyss.

It's almost so ridiculous that I've toyed with the thought that they know exactly what they're doing and this is a tremendous distraction, but the question still sits, of where exactly is Kate and why can't they produce an image that is unedited (at least only touched up in the way celebrities usually would like eye bags removal etc) and is definitively her.

I also find it quite odd that this dad trotting about at the Windsor market, Nelson Silva, decided to go and sit in his car far away and zoom so much it's potato quality, behind parked cars so you barely get a glimpse of the pair of them. Anybody inclined to take a photo or video would surely know the press would be offering a high price for it, why not get a clear shot and pretend you're on the phone or something?

To add to the oddities of Nelson, he has been quoted as saying his colleagues convinced him on Monday to share the video with the press, but the video was released around 10pm Sunday evening. Peculiar is it not?

Mirabai · 21/03/2024 13:16

EasternStandard · 21/03/2024 13:08

Yes did the BBC say this too?

No, well not here anyway.

These pictures of Prince William and Catherine, published by the Sun, are the first video images of the princess since her abdominal surgery in January.
The unexpected appearance of the House of Windsor in the Windsor farm shop shows that she's back on her feet and looking relaxed and smiling.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68610202

Prince William and Catherine at a farm shop in Windsor

Prince William and Kate video won't stop online rumours

Blurry video of the royal couple shopping at the weekend has become an international talking point.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68610202

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