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Saladcreamdreams · 2024-03-14T21:39:42+00:00

Do not read or comment if you aren't interested! Shamefully starting a new Kate related thread for the fellow people like me who are so far down the rabbit hole they need to talk it out with fellow tin foil hat wearers 🤙 I want to know.. what do you think? Where is she? The wild theories? Will she make the Easter Day service? What the hell is going on over at KP? I think she's seriously ill and will be stepping back soon. I've got popcorn and I've got alllllll night, let's dissect.

martellotower · 17/03/2024 13:03

The Andrew thing was awkward
Awkward? Is that really how you view it ? I'd say it was a bit more than "awkward".

quantumbutterfly · 17/03/2024 13:08

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 12:48

Yep Anne I agree hits the right note. I like her a lot.

I do think one thing that seems to derail things is when Royalty try to go glam ( or the public push it that way with endless focus on what they wore, what their weight is) . Anne’s glam has always been of a more substantive variety: she’s the one who best carried off the regalia at the Coronation because actually she doesn’t need to show her waist etc to do her image. But a more celebrity style glam seems to end in trouble in that it generates a kind of underlying dismissiveness for all it’s cover appeal. TBH it’s the focus on Catherine’s outfits, weight etc that I think have caused this current drama. Anne would have felt able to come out just as she was. If the photos were unflattering it was as it was: one is feeling poorly.

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Style over substance is indicative of our superficial society.

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:09

MaturingCheeseball · 17/03/2024 12:55

I don’t think Catherine could win. Come out looking less than 100% and her appearance would have been ripped to shreds (and some on here would have been leading the pack). But if it were said, “The PoW is not going to appear in public until she is happy with how she looks” (or official words to that effect) then there would be roars that she should “celebrate” looking different/bloated/emaciated/whatever or else she is letting down other sufferers.

I agree. She’s been backed into a corner by the portrayal of her - and at some impressionable age it’s probably fair to say she started playing along. The very first photos of her ever were more down to earth and I think the way forward for Catherine ( or Kate since the other means my head is up their bottoms!🤣) needs to come back and focus on the charity causes, chop the swishy hair to a nice ( and actually age appropriate slightly shorter/ bob length cut), let her waist thicken slightly and get on the job. I think she’s actually got all the skills to be fantastic in her role and the other image is distracting - especially as she gets older. I think she’d feel less under pressure too. But her mistakes have come from trying to please, not out of ego IMHO.

RoyalDramaLlama · 17/03/2024 13:09

Severalwhippets · 17/03/2024 13:00

I think there are much better examples out there of societies that do have a far more equal distribution of power, opportunity and wealth. They tend to be the happiest places to live too, which is no coincidence. Although a country needs to be led by someone, I would prefer that to be by collective consensus that they have the necessary qualities and not by birth.

It is very relevant as we are headed for uncharted territory in terms of the RF.

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The thing is, some of the most equal countries in the world are Monarchies. The difference is that they are far smaller and cheaper, they don't live in the past, they are willing to streamline not only the working Royals but their houses and staff, and when they are crowned, instead of having an enormous ceremony where they get all their jewels out, arrest Republucans for holding banners and ask people to swear allegiance to the King, the King has to swear allegiance to the people.

upinaballoon · 17/03/2024 13:15

mardylookingfrump · 17/03/2024 12:23

I for one want my £2 a year back while it still buys me a Freddo frog

Can't you get 8 Freddos for £2?

Severalwhippets · 17/03/2024 13:15

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:09

I agree. She’s been backed into a corner by the portrayal of her - and at some impressionable age it’s probably fair to say she started playing along. The very first photos of her ever were more down to earth and I think the way forward for Catherine ( or Kate since the other means my head is up their bottoms!🤣) needs to come back and focus on the charity causes, chop the swishy hair to a nice ( and actually age appropriate slightly shorter/ bob length cut), let her waist thicken slightly and get on the job. I think she’s actually got all the skills to be fantastic in her role and the other image is distracting - especially as she gets older. I think she’d feel less under pressure too. But her mistakes have come from trying to please, not out of ego IMHO.

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It comes from Perfectionism and insecurity as she wasn’t born into an aristocratic family. I can’t see her allowing herself to loosen up a little and focus on her legacy and substance.

MaturingCheeseball · 17/03/2024 13:16

@Severalwhippets - the cost of the royal family is chicken feed compared with the cost of, for example, local councillors. They cost the country (you and me, that is) many millions if not billions. Do you know how much they are paid? 99% do nothing and I mean absolutely nothing . Most never even canvass, they just are prepared to stand, get elected and then pick up a very tasty “allowance”. I know this with certainty .

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:17

quantumbutterfly · 17/03/2024 13:08

Style over substance is indicative of our superficial society.

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And yet I think people respect Anne for her no nonsense, grounded approach. I do anyway🤗👍

quantumbutterfly · 17/03/2024 13:18

Severalwhippets · 17/03/2024 13:00

I think there are much better examples out there of societies that do have a far more equal distribution of power, opportunity and wealth. They tend to be the happiest places to live too, which is no coincidence. Although a country needs to be led by someone, I would prefer that to be by collective consensus that they have the necessary qualities and not by birth.

It is very relevant as we are headed for uncharted territory in terms of the RF.

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Denmark and other Scandinavian countries have monarchies and socialism but also a strong sense of identity, whatever change occurs it needs to be done gradually, but I agree that the current members of the establishment are not serving the UK well.

quantumbutterfly · 17/03/2024 13:21

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:17

And yet I think people respect Anne for her no nonsense, grounded approach. I do anyway🤗👍

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Many of us do, she has ovaries of steel😁.

Zara seems a strong, sensible woman too.

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:22

martellotower · 17/03/2024 13:03

The Andrew thing was awkward
Awkward? Is that really how you view it ? I'd say it was a bit more than "awkward".

Tbf it’s not an anthill I’ve wanted to stick my nose very far into! It’s scroll on for me …

ItsallIeverwanted · 17/03/2024 13:22

I don't know why every one loves Anne, she had lots of affairs too!

quantumbutterfly · 17/03/2024 13:23

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:22

Tbf it’s not an anthill I’ve wanted to stick my nose very far into! It’s scroll on for me …

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Well put.

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:24

Severalwhippets · 17/03/2024 13:15

It comes from Perfectionism and insecurity as she wasn’t born into an aristocratic family. I can’t see her allowing herself to loosen up a little and focus on her legacy and substance.

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I tho k that’s probably accurate - and it’s ehh I would find it hard to watch her get churned up and spat out by it all . I hope she can reach into her reserves of substance - because I do feel she’s got them.

quantumbutterfly · 17/03/2024 13:26

ItsallIeverwanted · 17/03/2024 13:22

I don't know why every one loves Anne, she had lots of affairs too!

She comes across as intelligent, well informed hard working and pragmatic. I like that.

upinaballoon · 17/03/2024 13:29

ItsallIeverwanted · 17/03/2024 13:22

I don't know why every one loves Anne, she had lots of affairs too!

How do you know? Why isn't it possible to love someone whether she had lots of affairs or not? With whom did she have these affairs? Were you there? Does an affair include emotional attachment? Does it have to include penetrative sexual intercourse? If a young woman goes out with a man 3 times and they kiss quite a lot at the end of the evening, but no more than that, does that constitute an affair?

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 17/03/2024 13:35

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 12:41

Some bits of this post are just so uncharitable - especially as it isn’t known to be true.

TBH it’s as if Catherine’s illness has given succour to all the creeps in the crevices who want it all to implode for her - and, in many cases the rest of them - and they’ve all scuttled out to dine on the gossip in the hope that their little footsteps will add to the din.

What a burst of acrimony and gruesome, gleeful feasting on the misfortune of Catherine’s illness. And even that isn’t enough: they want divorce for dessert. After all, their taxes have entitled them to some entertainment, if nothing else.

Hitherto I have not been much bothered either way about the RF . I admired the Queen for her sense of duty and a job well done. I blocked out the incessant drone of the Harry and Meghan saga. The Andrew thing was awkward. But I think Catherine has done her best, however she arrived at the role; and it’s becoming cruel.

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You're quite invested in the threads though.

It may not be known to you, doesn't mean it isn't true.

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:36

ItsallIeverwanted · 17/03/2024 13:22

I don't know why every one loves Anne, she had lots of affairs too!

We might feel differently if she was still having them. But she seems to have settled to something pretty sturdy and well judged. And Zara and Mike seem similar.

TakeOnFlea · 17/03/2024 13:41

A couple of posts on my social media are alluding to some announcement later today.

Probably more bullshit but strange that they both posted at a similar time, they don't know each other.

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:55

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 17/03/2024 13:35

You're quite invested in the threads though.

It may not be known to you, doesn't mean it isn't true.

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Tbh I’m getting really bored of them. I’ve had to have a lot of bed rest recently ( and am doctoring all my photo releases! 🤣) ; my wrist gets tired from holding a book so this is a wrist-position break - and pleeese someone start a fun thread!

mardylookingfrump · 17/03/2024 14:06

Calliopespa · 17/03/2024 13:09

I agree. She’s been backed into a corner by the portrayal of her - and at some impressionable age it’s probably fair to say she started playing along. The very first photos of her ever were more down to earth and I think the way forward for Catherine ( or Kate since the other means my head is up their bottoms!🤣) needs to come back and focus on the charity causes, chop the swishy hair to a nice ( and actually age appropriate slightly shorter/ bob length cut), let her waist thicken slightly and get on the job. I think she’s actually got all the skills to be fantastic in her role and the other image is distracting - especially as she gets older. I think she’d feel less under pressure too. But her mistakes have come from trying to please, not out of ego IMHO.

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But this is also about image? And she really can’t win, because this at-first-glance “supportive” message is weirdly
invested in a stranger’s body and appearance: age-appropriate hair? Let her waist thicken? Her image is a distraction as she gets older? Of course she’s under pressure with this sort of nonsense, none of which should actually impact her role/skills/ability/focus. Maybe she quite likes her hair and waistline 🤷‍♀️

naturesform · 17/03/2024 14:06

MaturingCheeseball · 17/03/2024 13:00

@naturesform - I’ve always called her Kate, but, like Calliopespa, have now begun using “Catherine” as some small way of showing thatI support her as an ill woman. What has she done that is prompting your stream of nastiness? It sounds mighty personal.

How does calling her Catherine support her as an ill woman? If somebody wishes her well but calls her Kate, is their support in some way inferior to yours?

AliceMcK · 17/03/2024 14:18

ssd · 17/03/2024 10:06

I've always thought that Harry fell out with William as he knew about williams affair and he liked kate and felt William was treating kate in the same way his dad treated his mum. But instead of admitting it, William and his team went out their way to smear meghan and make her and harry out to be the problem. Its all a deflection so William can carry on doing as he likes. He seems very entitled and arrogant. But harry knows he cant say whats really happening as it effectively could end the monarchy as we know it.

This sounds like a good theory. I always thought Harry had a lot of respect for Kate, he gave her his mother’s ring after all, I thought that was a massive show of how he felt about her marrying his brother. I have always felt Harry was the more natural down to earth one and think he would make a far better King, which his brother probably knows and is jealous of his popularity.

Harry and Meghan were obviously scape goats and used to cover something up, Wills affairs, Kates health, Andy’s peado lifestyle…. Could be any number of things.

diddl · 17/03/2024 14:22

Anne would have felt able to come out just as she was.

Perhaps that's the difference to being born into it or not?

Also a different generation to Kate who wasn't under such scrutiny when younger?

She has (imo) worn some fabulous outfits over the years.

Minis in the 70s, a white trouser suit, vibrant long, floaty gowns.

Probably very fashionable at the time.

martellotower · 17/03/2024 14:36

quantumbutterfly · Today 13:23

Calliopespa · Today 13:22

Tbf it’s not an anthill I’ve wanted to stick my nose very far into! It’s scroll on for me …
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Well put.

You want to give Andrew's actions a swerve but you feel the need to reference them?
And then to tell us that you are virtuously scrolling on by ?