Kate Gate

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Do not read or comment if you aren't interested!

Shamefully starting a new Kate related thread for the fellow people like me who are so far down the rabbit hole they need to talk it out with fellow tin foil hat wearers 🤙
I want to know.. what do you think?
Where is she?
The wild theories?
Will she make the Easter Day service?
What the hell is going on over at KP?

I think she's seriously ill and will be stepping back soon.

I've got popcorn and I've got alllllll night, let's dissect.

They are all very flawed people brought up in an artificially deferential atmosphere.
I don't believe the Camilla and Charles great love story either, she was the last mistress standing afaik.
They are ordinary people who should be released into the wild to live their lives as ordinary people.

I've always thought that Harry fell out with William as he knew about williams affair and he liked kate and felt William was treating kate in the same way his dad treated his mum. But instead of admitting it, William and his team went out their way to smear meghan and make her and harry out to be the problem. Its all a deflection so William can carry on doing as he likes. He seems very entitled and arrogant. But harry knows he cant say whats really happening as it effectively could end the monarchy as we know it.

I've always thought that Harry fell out with William as he knew about williams affair and he liked kate

Is he not quite horrible about her in his book?

I haven't read the book

I don't understand the shock that William has or had affairs. Its what they do!!!

Me neither!

Only seen snippets in newspapers.

Had a feeling that if he did like her he doesn't now!

Could be wrong though,

I suppose a lot of us would like to think that as he married who he chose & not who he was forced to he could be faithful.

Mind you that doesn't work for a lot of people anyway!

I wouldn't be surprised if it's true-bit much if it was with a neighbour/friend though.(imo)

I read the book. Harry didn't say anything about not liking Kate. What he did say was that he had hoped that after William and Kate got married, he would see a lot of them but instead, they became distant. His explanation for this was that the royals are encouraged by their management teams to be competitive with one another and they get offended if someone else gets positive press and there is a rule that you should not upstage anyone closer in
Line to the throne.

He also said that Kate had been offended by Meghan suggesting that Kate had 'baby brain'. Apparently, Kate told Meghan that she felt hurt because 'we're not close enough for you to talk about my hormones'.

Bwa ha ha. You don't know me well enough to talk about my hormones and mean it.

Someone on royal mn posted a link to Anne,Kate & Will being interviewed by Mike Tindall. Anne's comment about how competitive Will & Kate's kids are was thought provoking.

Thank you.

I was equating saying something negative with disliking.

Not necessarily the case of course.

The public doesn’t really care. The RF are utterly irrelevant to their lives and are just another tax burden they have no choice about paying.
They don’t see the gaping irony that a Monarch is anointed by God, that Camilla is Charles anointed Queen… but in the eyes of God she is married not to him but another man. They are literally trying (and succeeding) to have it both ways. For £2 a year most people can’t be bothered to even register it, let alone complain.

I don’t agree - I think the public backlash is coming. The gravy train may well come to a shuddering halt.

I for one want my £2 a year back while it still buys me a Freddo frog

Can only hope.
£2/yr is a creatively accounted figure but even so, it still looks like a pyramid scheme.
Kate seems bright and pleasant but she seems to lack the drive and strength of someone like Anne, I'd pick Anne as our 'soft' ambassador...if I had a choice, fairly sure she wouldn't want it for herself or her progeny though.

It’s the principle of paying the work shy to have a royal life style that might finally finish them, additionally the continuation of hierarchical structures within a society that is or should be working towards obtaining true equality and opportunities and fair playing field for everyone.

An equal society is not really possible as it stands whilst we still have a ‘royal’ family and aristocracy that pools (hogs) its wealth, privilege and power to the detriment of others. And this is before we even get into the historical ties to slavery etc.

Did Harry not say he married for love alone? Re: a PP, the insinuation being others haven’t in past.

Some bits of this post are just so uncharitable - especially as it isn’t known to be true.

TBH it’s as if Catherine’s illness has given succour to all the creeps in the crevices who want it all to implode for her - and, in many cases the rest of them - and they’ve all scuttled out to dine on the gossip in the hope that their little footsteps will add to the din.

What a burst of acrimony and gruesome, gleeful feasting on the misfortune of Catherine’s illness. And even that isn’t enough: they want divorce for dessert. After all, their taxes have entitled them to some entertainment, if nothing else.

Hitherto I have not been much bothered either way about the RF . I admired the Queen for her sense of duty and a job well done. I blocked out the incessant drone of the Harry and Meghan saga. The Andrew thing was awkward. But I think Catherine has done her best, however she arrived at the role; and it’s becoming cruel.

Yep Anne I agree hits the right note. I like her a lot.

I do think one thing that seems to derail things is when Royalty try to go glam ( or the public push it that way with endless focus on what they wore, what their weight is) . Anne’s glam has always been of a more substantive variety: she’s the one who best carried off the regalia at the Coronation because actually she doesn’t need to show her waist etc to do her image. But a more celebrity style glam seems to end in trouble in that it generates a kind of underlying dismissiveness for all it’s cover appeal. TBH it’s the focus on Catherine’s outfits, weight etc that I think have caused this current drama. Anne would have felt able to come out just as she was. If the photos were unflattering it was as it was: one is feeling poorly.

If you weren't bothered either way about the RF you wouldn't call her Catherine.

It's such a giveaway as to having ones head firmly up the RF's bottom

@Severalwhippets Society will always have some sort of hierarchy.

The bigger and more divided the society, the greater the pressure is to control it from the top by fair means or foul.

Even if we have similar aims, we have different ideas about how to get there and none of them will succeed if we don't work together. Not everyone is a good leader, certainly not many that we see in government.
We learn co-operation and leadership like any other skill, by example and practice.

Anyway...back to Kate bait.

Do you know what’s interesting about that: I normally don’t ( though I normally wouldn’t speak much about them tbh). If you’re fixated check my posts. I’ve made an effort to say Catherine because I’m feeling she’s being unreasonably trampled. But sometimes I’ve forgotten. So not the giveaway you think it is. I’m a normally not too bothered member of the public who finds this current thread ( and others like it) ( and that family photo marked up with accusatory arrows) to be going a bit too far.

I don’t think Catherine could win. Come out looking less than 100% and her appearance would have been ripped to shreds (and some on here would have been leading the pack). But if it were said, “The PoW is not going to appear in public until she is happy with how she looks” (or official words to that effect) then there would be roars that she should “celebrate” looking different/bloated/emaciated/whatever or else she is letting down other sufferers.

@naturesform - I’ve always called her Kate, but, like Calliopespa, have now begun using “Catherine” as some small way of showing thatI support her as an ill woman. What has she done that is prompting your stream of nastiness? It sounds mighty personal.

I think there are much better examples out there of societies that do have a far more equal distribution of power, opportunity and wealth. They tend to be the happiest places to live too, which is no coincidence. Although a country needs to be led by someone, I would prefer that to be by collective consensus that they have the necessary qualities and not by birth.

It is very relevant as we are headed for uncharted territory in terms of the RF.

How many new hospitals or nurses could we have if we spent £86 million a year on the health service - anyone? That £2 pp could be an NHS top up fund.