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Do the Royal Family just think we are really really stupid?

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Bex5490 · 11/03/2024 11:30

Just that really. From Harry’s car chase to Prince Andrew being at a Pizza Express kid’s party.

And now we’re supposed to believe that the country’s biggest PR machine in the middle of a media storm just let Prince William take a casual Mothers Day pic on his iPhone, let the missus edit it and then post it to the world?

😒

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SweetcornFritter · 11/03/2024 18:18

Bex5490 · 11/03/2024 11:30

Just that really. From Harry’s car chase to Prince Andrew being at a Pizza Express kid’s party.

And now we’re supposed to believe that the country’s biggest PR machine in the middle of a media storm just let Prince William take a casual Mothers Day pic on his iPhone, let the missus edit it and then post it to the world?

😒

After reading all the absolute conspiraloon hogwash that has been written about this photo by members of the general public then yes, I should think the Royal Family does think their subjects are stupid, or at best off their rockers.

marrarda · 11/03/2024 18:18

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Septagenariandaisy · 11/03/2024 18:19

Why oh why are people so bothered about a photograph.
Does it really matter if she tried to make it better than the original.
It was simply a photograph of a Mum with her three young children.
End of. People are editing photographs of themselves all over the place.
She doesn’t pretend to be a professional.
Leave her alone for Gods sake.

Severalwhippets · 11/03/2024 18:22

Septagenariandaisy · 11/03/2024 18:19

Why oh why are people so bothered about a photograph.
Does it really matter if she tried to make it better than the original.
It was simply a photograph of a Mum with her three young children.
End of. People are editing photographs of themselves all over the place.
She doesn’t pretend to be a professional.
Leave her alone for Gods sake.

If she wasn’t there at all it matters. It’s deceptive and misleading (which is why it received a kill notice)

wincarwoo · 11/03/2024 18:24

If she wasn't there at all??? What are you suggesting?

WimbyAce · 11/03/2024 18:24

It's all got so out of hand tbh. I just hope that she's ok. Imagine that she's really poorly and just needing some time away and there's this circus going on 🙈

viques · 11/03/2024 18:26

On a positive note, at least we now have the answer to the “Is she good at everything thread ?” which has been cluttering up the space for a few days now.

Photoshop. She is crap at photoshop.

jeffgoldblum · 11/03/2024 18:27

After reading all the rubbish online lately, if they think we're stupid, then frankly they'd be right!!

Dairymilk99 · 11/03/2024 18:27

Can someone explain what the massive deal with the editing is? It seems very amateur editing but doesn’t seem like she’s edited anything major that if we saw the original would ‘prove’ anything? For example Charlottes hand, what different outcome would that have? I imagine Kate felt under so much pressure to release this and wanted it to look perfect and the opposite has happened.

Salacia · 11/03/2024 18:30

wincarwoo · 11/03/2024 18:13

@Salacia really?? They were recognisably the family. It's an innocuous picture of them. What sinister theories is it meant to indicate?
I mean so what?

The photo agencies have to hold their content to the same standard. That’s how they maintain their trust and integrity. You can’t say the royal family are allowed to submit doctored images and that standards don’t apply to them. The newspapers etc need to know that the images they’re using are real and hasn’t been mocked up for whatever reason because they are coming from a legitimate agency.

For what it’s worth I don’t think there’s anything sinister they’re trying to cover up. She probably just feels crap/is insecure post-op, who wouldn’t be with the world watching and the speculation online. But releasing a fake image isn’t the answer to that. They could have released a throwback image to the family at a royal event (or one that hasn’t been previously released, they must have hundreds of innocuous photos), or a photo of a card made by one of the children or released nothing at all - any of these would have been better than putting out something which has raised significant concerns by the news agencies about legitimacy (a ‘kill’ notice like this is really very rare). I’m a republican, I have little interest in the personal lives of the royal family, but I do care about press legitimacy and I don’t think they should be above that.

RoyalDramaLlama · 11/03/2024 18:30

Dairymilk99 · 11/03/2024 18:27

Can someone explain what the massive deal with the editing is? It seems very amateur editing but doesn’t seem like she’s edited anything major that if we saw the original would ‘prove’ anything? For example Charlottes hand, what different outcome would that have? I imagine Kate felt under so much pressure to release this and wanted it to look perfect and the opposite has happened.

We don't know because they won't release the original photo. She could have changed the cardigan sleeve ( unlikely) or she could have replaced her entire head. In which case, why bother releasing a photo? If you want to do amateurish photoshop, don't send pictures to professional news agencies.

ttcat37 · 11/03/2024 18:32

The top 5 trending topics are this conspiracy about her. @mumsnet can they all be merged into one?

aliceinthecities · 11/03/2024 18:33

ttcat37 · 11/03/2024 18:32

The top 5 trending topics are this conspiracy about her. @mumsnet can they all be merged into one?

don't worry, they'll soon fill up and stop accepting new posts :)

SummaLuvin · 11/03/2024 18:33

@Dairymilk99 image withdrawal this way is rare, I think you can count on one hand normally the amount of times per year, and this is a first for royalty. Most photos in the press have some amount of editing, so the fact it has been rejected suggests they believe the tampering goes beyond "oh that was perfect but Louis had his eyes shut" or Kate giving herself a rosy glow or "dammit we didn't notice George had soup on his collar". It implies that they felt the images were misleading to a point they do not wish to be associated with it.

Dairymilk99 · 11/03/2024 18:33

RoyalDramaLlama · 11/03/2024 18:30

We don't know because they won't release the original photo. She could have changed the cardigan sleeve ( unlikely) or she could have replaced her entire head. In which case, why bother releasing a photo? If you want to do amateurish photoshop, don't send pictures to professional news agencies.

I did read a DM article (shame me I know) which pointed out all the editing and none of it was a replacement head etc so my point is if it’s just small retouches surely the original isn’t going be much different.

TheWernethWife · 11/03/2024 18:34

Yes. The RF do think the public are really really stupid.

Charles and Camilla hid their sordid affair for years, even getting their friends to say that Diana was mad, bloody disgraceful.

As for the coronation, families on the Mall had their children waving at the adultrerous pair.

Not a Diana fan just not taken in by all their BS.

samarrange · 11/03/2024 18:34

Dairymilk99 · 11/03/2024 18:27

Can someone explain what the massive deal with the editing is? It seems very amateur editing but doesn’t seem like she’s edited anything major that if we saw the original would ‘prove’ anything? For example Charlottes hand, what different outcome would that have? I imagine Kate felt under so much pressure to release this and wanted it to look perfect and the opposite has happened.

The argument seems to be that the whole picture is totally fake, perhaps because Kate is dead, or has done a runner and is now on a beach somewhere without William. And the RF are putting out the picture to buy themselves another week of cover-up time.

This all seems like bollocks to me, because it's not as if such a death/flit could be covered up for ever, but the alleged motivations behind conspiracies always seem to me to be even more obscure than the just-so stories of the details.

SummaLuvin · 11/03/2024 18:37

SummaLuvin · 11/03/2024 18:33

@Dairymilk99 image withdrawal this way is rare, I think you can count on one hand normally the amount of times per year, and this is a first for royalty. Most photos in the press have some amount of editing, so the fact it has been rejected suggests they believe the tampering goes beyond "oh that was perfect but Louis had his eyes shut" or Kate giving herself a rosy glow or "dammit we didn't notice George had soup on his collar". It implies that they felt the images were misleading to a point they do not wish to be associated with it.

Edited

to clarify, it might be that it was very minor changes but it seems KP have not reassured the press of this enough to give them confidence in the photo. If it was a small change it would be easy as pie for them to privately send the original to demonstrate no material changes were made, so the fact this hasn't ben done is suspicious.

ttcat37 · 11/03/2024 18:38

aliceinthecities · 11/03/2024 18:33

don't worry, they'll soon fill up and stop accepting new posts :)

And then they’ll start more! News flash, Kate seen out the house! News flash, Kate wears a grey cardigan! MASSIVE NEWS, Kate seen putting a sugar in her tea!

Bex5490 · 11/03/2024 18:39

Dairymilk99 · 11/03/2024 18:27

Can someone explain what the massive deal with the editing is? It seems very amateur editing but doesn’t seem like she’s edited anything major that if we saw the original would ‘prove’ anything? For example Charlottes hand, what different outcome would that have? I imagine Kate felt under so much pressure to release this and wanted it to look perfect and the opposite has happened.

I think the point is more that most people do not believe that this picture was casually taken by William and edited by Kate.

The royal’s social media isn’t just like one of the mums on the school run’s. They have teams of people vetting and agreeing on what they put out.

It seems pretty implausible that while everyone’s going crazy with the where’s Kate stuff the RF PR team just left it to the pair of them to take an amateur pic in their garden.

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Severalwhippets · 11/03/2024 18:42

Sincerely whatever is happening the image of Kate in the car is very sad. I felt angry with William for just ignoring her and looking down (at his phone or whatever) and it has made things worse not better - again. She cut a lonely figure in the car looking out, and I would be heartbroken if that was my dd.

They knew the paps would be there, and that is the best they can do? I feel more uneasy than I did before.

StrawberryJellyBelly · 11/03/2024 18:42

DrJoanAllenby · 11/03/2024 13:53

She only tidied up the original photo like many people do nowadays.

This is the original.

Whose face is that in the window?

wincarwoo · 11/03/2024 18:42

I can see the press integrity aspect. But as for "nobody believes it was William who took it bla bla bla" is only for conspiracy theorists.

Bex5490 · 11/03/2024 18:45

ttcat37 · 11/03/2024 18:32

The top 5 trending topics are this conspiracy about her. @mumsnet can they all be merged into one?

With that logic shall we merge all ‘my mother in law’s controlling’ or ‘my neighbour’s a knob’ threads?

Just skip the threads that don’t interest you! I manage to live my life happily avoiding inheritance threads and there’s always loads of them!

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Postapocalypticcowgirl · 11/03/2024 18:46

Livelovebehappy · 11/03/2024 15:15

What? So she took a picture, didn't like it, just made it look 'nicer' and this comes under the heading of misleading the whole country and media, because she made a picture look nice? There was a picture a few months ago where the press spotted a picture of her and the children which they thought might have been changed. It barely got a mention.

If this is the case, why not release the original?

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