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Lovely new photo of Catherine and the children has been released

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BirthdayRainbow · 10/03/2024 09:10

I know there will still be people saying it proves nothing, it was taken pre op but why not just enjoy the photo..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68526972

Kate and children

Princess of Wales: First official picture released since surgery

The image, taken by Prince William, shows the Princess of Wales with her children.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68526972

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Cornettoninja · 11/03/2024 09:34

Ncncncworkywork · 11/03/2024 09:12

I like a conspiracy as much as the next person and don't think there's anything wrong with speculating about the RF.

However I am wondering: considering the Palace told us she would be off until Easter, what's the reasoning for being worried now?

I’m with you, I’m not really seeing the trigger. Well I didn’t until respected sources called the photo into question. Even then I’m not really waiting with bated breath for the royal PR’s next move…

There will be masses of stuff that is kept out of the public domain. I don’t really care what, or the reasons behind it provided it’s within legal boundaries. Everything else is just gossip surely?

SparkIehoof · 11/03/2024 09:38

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/03/2024 09:26

I hope this will put paid to questioning.

This comment aged well 🤣

ChalcotSq · 11/03/2024 09:46

Serenster · 11/03/2024 09:32

Here’s Queen Alexandra retouching her official Coronation photos in 1902, for example!

What’s the point of this post?

Clearly global media standards and rules of engagement have changed since 1902 and KP PR should know these and work within them.

amberedover1 · 11/03/2024 09:48

There will be masses of stuff that is kept out of the public domain. I don’t really care what, or the reasons behind it provided it’s within legal boundaries
I care ,huge amounts of money involved and i don't like hypocrisy.

Serenster · 11/03/2024 09:49

I don’t think PR rules of engagement have changed though, have they? (News is different).

Flatleak · 11/03/2024 09:52

Serenster · 11/03/2024 09:32

Here’s Queen Alexandra retouching her official Coronation photos in 1902, for example!

Was this a Reddit hoax?

Also, no one is mad about 'retouching'. The photo was pulled for being entirely faked not because Kate had a spot she had photoshopped

CathyorClaire · 11/03/2024 09:56

So another day another circus 🙄

It seems to be beyond an awful lot of them to be able to take a step without tripping over these days.

Serenster · 11/03/2024 09:58

Flatleak · 11/03/2024 09:52

Was this a Reddit hoax?

Also, no one is mad about 'retouching'. The photo was pulled for being entirely faked not because Kate had a spot she had photoshopped

Got a source for that? Because the picture agency itself said the Charlotte’s cuff was the reason it was pulled. Which seems likely given it’s looked manipulated from the outset.

It’s the rabid gossips, not the picture agencies who are claiming the whole photo is fake. I think that’s unlikely. (And if you go back and look at my posts right from the start of the thread I have said it looked like they’d tweaked the image to get everyone looking at the camera and smiling naturally in the same shot).

VivienneDelacroix · 11/03/2024 10:00

NossyFramed · 11/03/2024 00:42

Help

Edited

Is that you Kate?

TallerSally · 11/03/2024 10:03

Well what a saga.

When I first saw the photo, three things felt odd:

a) Kate's face not looking anything like the pap shot from last week suggesting one or the other was fake,
b) the synchronous ecstatic smiling by the kids, and
c) the tight skinny jeans worn by Kate, not what you'd expect from someone recovering from major abdominal surgery and still so frail that she can't be seen in public until June.

But what do I know, eh?

Springingtosprimg · 11/03/2024 10:04

Easter is this month, not June. Surely we can all wait a few weeks.

GoldThumb · 11/03/2024 10:04

So did KP release the picture to the media?
Or did the media just take it from IG? (Presumably not, b copyright etc?)

I can definitely see the line on her head, maybe one of those ‘best pics’ type things, and it’s several photos mashed together.

Which is fine for their personal IG, but clearly if they have released it for media use, it doesn’t meet the standards?

Pretty sloppy from them tbh, as people are behaving maniacally already, so you’d think they would have been all over it.

samarrange · 11/03/2024 10:04

Some smartphones can do the ‘best choice/photo merging’ for you automatically these days - you take say six photos then choose the ‘best’ version of each face then ‘merge’ into a combined photo

@Legacy Thank you for this. I didn't know about this feature, but it would explain why a lot of the alleged photoshopping is so weird.

In particular, Louis's fingers look exactly like what you would expect AI (which is presumably what powers the photo merging feature) to mess up. AI is notoriously bad with fingers. On the other hand, a person would have to be on crack to alter his fingers like that with photo editing software (and what would they have been trying to remove - a gun? a syringe?).

This can probably also explain the wobbly sweater pattern at the top of Louis's rlght arm, and the cuff of Charlotte's top that seems to have a hole in it (there is a bit of red just visible to our left of her wrist).

MrsLeonFarrell · 11/03/2024 10:06

Serenster · 11/03/2024 09:58

Got a source for that? Because the picture agency itself said the Charlotte’s cuff was the reason it was pulled. Which seems likely given it’s looked manipulated from the outset.

It’s the rabid gossips, not the picture agencies who are claiming the whole photo is fake. I think that’s unlikely. (And if you go back and look at my posts right from the start of the thread I have said it looked like they’d tweaked the image to get everyone looking at the camera and smiling naturally in the same shot).

And the BBC are pretty clear that the problem for the agencies is that they distributed it onto news sites. If it was simply on Instagram it wouldn't be a problem. The agencies have really strict standards about manipulation of photos in the news. KP released it as a thank you and a nice mother's day image, should someone in the media team have anticipated the issue, probably, but they didn't.

The fact that people are using it to stir more of what Newscast yesterday called nonsense says more about them than Catherine.

MrsLeonFarrell · 11/03/2024 10:10

TallerSally · 11/03/2024 10:03

Well what a saga.

When I first saw the photo, three things felt odd:

a) Kate's face not looking anything like the pap shot from last week suggesting one or the other was fake,
b) the synchronous ecstatic smiling by the kids, and
c) the tight skinny jeans worn by Kate, not what you'd expect from someone recovering from major abdominal surgery and still so frail that she can't be seen in public until June.

But what do I know, eh?

The face descrepancy is I think down to the fact that one is an extremely zoomed long lens of a private moment and one is a posed deliberate shot in fairly close quarters. If you have seen people do make up tutorials on shading they show how different a face can look.

Maybe the kids were happy?

I suspect that the dark top was chosen so it was hard to zoom in on her stomach area, not surprising given the online comfortable. I bet her jeans were undone too.

EdithWeston · 11/03/2024 10:13

Serenster · 10/03/2024 22:26

Are photos that have been photoshopped no longer going to be accepted by photo agencies? I can see an argument that with deep fake technology they are going to start maybe having some guard rails in place. I think it might cause some upset in certain corners, not just royals, if they do, though!

That's the existing policy - though of course a certain level of touching up may still slip through through unnoticed and of course deep fake is a much bigger issue.

But the main agencies have set themselves against all photo manipulation, as a principled stand, because they do not want their photos to lie, even when it could just be little tidy ups that do not change the context or message of the photo.

Fibble · 11/03/2024 10:13

BemusedAmerican · 11/03/2024 01:19

They've gotten more publicity than today's Uvalde trip and the Oscars. In the PR world they've won. I am waiting for Kate to show up on the news tomorrow explaining that William had been messing with the advanced image features on his phone. A good excuse to bring her back early to shut up the critics.

It's not a matter of getting the most publicity, it's a matter of getting the right publicity. This has been a giant PR mess and the palace bods will not be congratulating themselves this morning.

Are the men in grey suits no longer about? Couldn't see this happening under Lizzie's watch.

Ncncncworkywork · 11/03/2024 10:14

The Queen would be appalled

Alltheprettyseahorses · 11/03/2024 10:19

Serenster · 11/03/2024 09:58

Got a source for that? Because the picture agency itself said the Charlotte’s cuff was the reason it was pulled. Which seems likely given it’s looked manipulated from the outset.

It’s the rabid gossips, not the picture agencies who are claiming the whole photo is fake. I think that’s unlikely. (And if you go back and look at my posts right from the start of the thread I have said it looked like they’d tweaked the image to get everyone looking at the camera and smiling naturally in the same shot).

Out of interest, do you have a source for the withdrawal only being about Charlotte's sleeve?

SignoraVolpe · 11/03/2024 10:19

Surely if the photo was lifted from a sm account then no one asked the press to print it?
There decision to pull the photo doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

BemusedAmerican · 11/03/2024 10:21

Isn't all publicity ultimately good publicity?

ColleenDonaghy · 11/03/2024 10:29

samarrange · 11/03/2024 10:04

Some smartphones can do the ‘best choice/photo merging’ for you automatically these days - you take say six photos then choose the ‘best’ version of each face then ‘merge’ into a combined photo

@Legacy Thank you for this. I didn't know about this feature, but it would explain why a lot of the alleged photoshopping is so weird.

In particular, Louis's fingers look exactly like what you would expect AI (which is presumably what powers the photo merging feature) to mess up. AI is notoriously bad with fingers. On the other hand, a person would have to be on crack to alter his fingers like that with photo editing software (and what would they have been trying to remove - a gun? a syringe?).

This can probably also explain the wobbly sweater pattern at the top of Louis's rlght arm, and the cuff of Charlotte's top that seems to have a hole in it (there is a bit of red just visible to our left of her wrist).

They won't be using a smart phone though. Kate has proper equipment, they'll have used that.

BemusedAmerican · 11/03/2024 10:29

There was also a lot of snark about Harry's allegedly photoshopped hair on his BetterUp profile months ago but oddly no news agencies pulled their photos of his hair.

WCBS News specifically mentioned a child's arm last night. The AP website also specifically states Charlotte's arm.

EdithWeston · 11/03/2024 10:30

AInightingale · 10/03/2024 22:57

Christ, I looked at Twitter about 15 mins ago and there were 17.5K posts about Kate, just checked again and it was up to 22K. So much for quelling speculation, more like putting out a fire with petrol.

Yes, the posts about "one picture and a(further) message of thanks will end all this speculation" really didn't age well.

There have been discussions in the past about the possible photoshopping of a number of released pictures from various Royals. It's quite likely that they do use a kind of "best shot" for groups (and would be far from alone in that)

Does any manipulation change what the pic is showing - a smiling mother with laughing children to mark Mothers Day (as this family does every year). Well, to some it will - especially those who have been banging the "where's Kate" drum.

To others, it'll make no difference to respecting the "privacy until about Easter" request, on the grounds that they must be OK (as no parents would put their DC through a pretence of that scale)

commonground · 11/03/2024 10:31

Ah, Louis fingers are the most authentic part of this pic I think - I recognise that energy - the vibe of a kid who has to stand still long enough to get the pic but would rather be active...he's itching to hold a tennis ball. Or a lego minifigure.

Surely this is cock-up rather than conspiracy. The picture was released to KP's SM and the press, in their haste to be the first to publish on their outlets, lifted it and ran with it. But who hasn't filtered or altered an insta pic? Especially if there are so many people involved.

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