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More Sussex PR antics

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Gottseidank · 10/03/2024 07:02

Imagine using the victims of a school shooting for attention and PR. There seem to be no depths to which this pair will not sink

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13178107/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-pay-surprise-visit-sister-teacher-killed-Uvalde-school-massacre-sing-happy-birthday-heartwarming-clip.html

Meghan and Harry sing happy birthday to school shooting victim family

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle make a surprise visit to Uvalde, Texas, to support the family of Irma Garcia, a teacher killed in the 2022 school shooting.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13178107/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-pay-surprise-visit-sister-teacher-killed-Uvalde-school-massacre-sing-happy-birthday-heartwarming-clip.html

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Roussette · 10/03/2024 19:08

minou123 · 10/03/2024 18:38

I honestly can't see what Meghan and Harry have done wrong in this instance.

The Ulvade school shooting happened in 2022. Irma Garcia was one of the teachers who died, protecting pupils.

The Garcia family and M&H have been in contact for the last 2 years.
The Garcia family and M&H have kept this private. Nobody publicised or used this information for any gain.

M&H were in Texas, and with the family arranged for a private visit.
Nobody told or published this to the the public or press.

The only reason why the press have picked this up. Is because John, the nephew of Irma Garcia, took some photos and put them on his social media, I belive twitter.
M&H haven't published anything about this. Nobody went to the press to sell, use, exploit or publicise.
This was a private matter between two families.

That's it. There really isn't much more to it.

Thank you

The voice of reason

Chupacabara · 10/03/2024 19:12

Blackcats7 · 10/03/2024 19:08

I don’t understand why anyone would want a sympathy visit from someone they don’t know famous or not.
Bizarre.

True words

BemusedAmerican · 10/03/2024 19:30

Perhaps when they showed up at the door with the rent-a-cops and camera crew the sane family members felt too intimidated to shut it in their faces.

Samcro · 10/03/2024 19:54

minou123 · 10/03/2024 18:38

I honestly can't see what Meghan and Harry have done wrong in this instance.

The Ulvade school shooting happened in 2022. Irma Garcia was one of the teachers who died, protecting pupils.

The Garcia family and M&H have been in contact for the last 2 years.
The Garcia family and M&H have kept this private. Nobody publicised or used this information for any gain.

M&H were in Texas, and with the family arranged for a private visit.
Nobody told or published this to the the public or press.

The only reason why the press have picked this up. Is because John, the nephew of Irma Garcia, took some photos and put them on his social media, I belive twitter.
M&H haven't published anything about this. Nobody went to the press to sell, use, exploit or publicise.
This was a private matter between two families.

That's it. There really isn't much more to it.

Sadly poster’s would rather call H&M names than actually look at the truth .
might just keep quoting this post.

Gottseidank · 10/03/2024 20:01

Samcro · 10/03/2024 19:54

Sadly poster’s would rather call H&M names than actually look at the truth .
might just keep quoting this post.

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None of this makes it any less problematic- but their fans seem incapable of seeing that.

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Samcro · 10/03/2024 20:02

Gottseidank · 10/03/2024 20:01

None of this makes it any less problematic- but their fans seem incapable of seeing that.

Who are their fans?

FloofCloud · 10/03/2024 20:07

@Samcro - so you don't think that jumping on someone's grief to garner publicity is ok - wow

Chupacabara · 10/03/2024 20:08

Samcro · 10/03/2024 19:54

Sadly poster’s would rather call H&M names than actually look at the truth .
might just keep quoting this post.

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What names have they been called on this thread?

I find it rather revealing that posters are so aggrieved that griefsploitation is being criticised, and interpret that as ‘name-calling’.

Chupacabara · 10/03/2024 20:15

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 10/03/2024 18:30

I am a bit confused by those claiming that because these photos popped up on the young chap's social media that it isn't a PR thing. Given how controlling the Sussexes are about their media appearances, he will have been given permission to share those images. And the person giving that permission will have done so in order that they can be passed off as NOT being officially released as a PR exercise by H&M, when in fact they absolutely are. If you get my meaning. That young man and his family have been exploited.

you’ve explained it well

ChVrches · 10/03/2024 20:18

FloofCloud · 10/03/2024 15:52

Firstly it was a public vigil, secondly she is part of the royal family, supporting king and country, thirdly its part of her job as a senior royal family member yo represent the RF - had she gone over to Sarah Everards parents house, took photographs and sang happy birthday with a cake now that would have been a very different situation

and then repeated it a year later ? Yes it's odd.

ChVrches · 10/03/2024 20:20

It's a bit like that Punk'd show.

Chupacabara · 10/03/2024 20:34

FloofCloud · 10/03/2024 10:25

Is not an organic meeting though, it is a way to get publicity off the back of someone's tragedy - I'm sure there's a word for that kind of behaviour

Yes, griefsploitation, exploitation of tragedy, and grief.

And grief-vulturing, when people co-opt grief for their own attention and gain.

Gottseidank · 10/03/2024 20:40

Samcro · 10/03/2024 20:02

Who are their fans?

They know who they are - and anyone reading these threads can identify them easily - where’s the confusion?

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Em2ds1dd · 10/03/2024 21:16

I find it interesting that the young lads photos on social media were somehow picked up by Hello magazine,
What are the odds!
And yet we are expected to believe the S&M publicity machine had no hand it.

pubblehopper · 10/03/2024 21:23

Meghan is on a roll, Harry never looked more of a Spare than he does now in his marriage. He looks totally emasculated.

Em2ds1dd · 10/03/2024 21:30

Oops -that should say the Sussex publicity machine!

secretpath · 10/03/2024 21:51

The way I look at it is that Meghan and Harry have chosen to be celebrities not royals. (Harry seems not have fully understood this choice, although the penny may be starting to drop).

As celebrities, they have the freedom to support whatever cause they wish, or drum up PR in any way they seem fit. I personally find the Uvalde association rather forced and distasteful, but if they can find families willing to associate with them, then OK. Go your hardest Harry and Meghan, and live your best (celebrity) life.

But what they cannot do to my mind is try and be Royals (capital R) at the same time. Prince Harry will always be royal (small r) as he was born into the family, but he no longer represents the institution. They cannot try to pass off these celebrity PR efforts as being somehow blessed by or associated with or adjacent to the Royals (capital R). They cannot and should not do this because the Royal family represents the Head of State and needs to be non-political.

Regardless of the ethical and constitutional ramifications, it seems to me that this is precisely what they are trying to do. Invictus/St Pauls/Birmingham demonstrates this - they want the veneer of a UK/Royal association to rub off on their personal PR efforts.

Given their persistence in this, the King Charles needs to respond in no uncertain terms. I believe a statement needs to be made whereby it is made extremely clear that Prince Harry and Meghan are acting on their own behalf, and not on behalf of HM or HM's Government.

I don't care what they do as long as they do not appear to be doing it in association with the Royals.

secretpath · 10/03/2024 22:01

Which is why, in my opinion, the RF should stay very distanced from any PR appearances that Prince Harry and Meghan may make in the UK, even ones like Invictus which are so worthy and even with King Charles being head of the military. It may be impossible to stop Prince Harry and Meghan from coming to the UK as part of their causes and PR, but it is possible or them to be deprived of Royal oxygen.

LadyMuckonpancakes · 10/03/2024 22:35

pubblehopper · 10/03/2024 21:23

Meghan is on a roll, Harry never looked more of a Spare than he does now in his marriage. He looks totally emasculated.

I actually think Harry is beginning to look more at ease with it all , whilst she looks quite haunted these days. To me she looks like she knows she’s fucked it up but is doing her best to keep carrying on as if they are the star attraction. I find the two of them a total embarrassment.

Arraminta · 10/03/2024 22:39

The way I look at it is that Meghan and Harry have chosen to be celebrities not royals. (Harry seems not have fully understood this choice, although the penny may be starting to drop).

Yes wires were very much crossed when Megan agreed to marry Harry. I think she genuinely believed it would instantly catapult her into something very like A List Hollywood celebrity status. Instead to her horror, she found herself on the Royal Family B List.

Conversely, Harry thought if he escaped to Hollywood he could rely on his royal status to open all the doors. Except Megan wanted him to be an A List celebrity instead, and poor Harry doesn't have a scrap of celebrity charisma, talent or achievement. Hapless Harry had just the one royal string to his bow, in a country that doesn't recognise royalty.

secretpath · 10/03/2024 22:55

Conversely, Harry thought if he escaped to Hollywood he could rely on his royal status to open all the doors. Except Megan wanted him to be an A List celebrity instead, and poor Harry doesn't have a scrap of celebrity charisma, talent or achievement. Hapless Harry had just the one royal string to his bow, in a country that doesn't recognise royalty.

Yes, I would agree with this. Meghan is definitely the more charismatic and talented of the two. Esp. the charisma. Her smile in those early Royal photos - just beautiful 😍. I wonder if Prince Harry is actually holding her back now? His Royal (big R) connections are clearly tarnished if not severed, and I'm not sure he has much else to offer her. He is royal, but not Royal and is only going to get further distanced in time and memory.

Arraminta · 10/03/2024 23:03

All his life all Harry had to do was be. His royal status did all his hard work for him, opened every door and smoothed every path. Now that his royal status has been mostly nullified he needs to do rather than just be. And he doesn't know how.

secretpath · 10/03/2024 23:15

Yes.

Again, of the two, Meghan is the do-er. She is the one with the energy and the ambition. I would question some of her methods, and the level of output doesn't seem to match the input (one podcast episode in 2 years was it?) but of the two I think she is the one who is likely to actually produce something, even if that something is fairly empty PR.

Having said that, Prince Harry has (sort of) written a book. But now that he has said all that he can say about the RF (surely!) I'm not sure what he has left.

MaturingCheeseball · 11/03/2024 08:45

Agree absolutely @secretpath . They can hang around Uvalde all they like, but it is not a “royal” visit. Yes, the PR people are really egging on the Invictus UK connection in order to reel the rf in and thereby reinforce Harry’s royalty. Otherwise he really is a Spare part.

Gottseidank · 11/03/2024 08:55

Meanwhile, they still haven’t been invited to the Oscar’s…

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