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Are Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lili coming back home?

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NotMyPage · 07/03/2024 18:59

It would be nice to have them back and getting along with the rest of the family, what do people think? They'd have to apologise and try to move forward in a positive way. With Charles being unwell and elderly, and the Wales kids too young to serve as working royals, the Sussex's may be needed. Trump may win the election, which could have a negative impact on them and Archie will start school soon, a great time to relocate home?? Apparently Meghan is looking for PR agencies to help her improve her image. Would the Uk welcome them?

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Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:22

@Kjones27

No one is saying she should hide away. We are saying that she is unable to apologise for things she has done that are wrong and hurtful. She appears to have a complete inability to reflect on her behaviour and change. Which is textbook for narcissistic personality disorder. No one is ever right all the time.

Her fans would get more traction in talking about some of the negative coverage she received if they could acknowledge that she has sometimes behaved hypocritically and done things that were very nice. The fact they can’t do that at all is what puts people’s backs up.

I’m not even going to engage with your faux ‘what’s wrong with that statement’ because I’ve wasted too much of my life explaining to self centred people why it is insensitive to brag about your second child making you a ‘real family’. The only people I’ve ever met in real life who did this are super toxic and enormously self involved. The fact you can’t get that tells me quite a lot about you. It shouldn’t need explaining that someone with a public platform shouldn’t be making these kinds of crass statements.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:22

Gottseidank · 09/03/2024 08:20

How silly, I never said she should hide away.

I suggested that, in her situation, it was ill-advised to actively seek out and even pay for public/media attention. Harry and Meghan are indisputably divisive figures and if they continue to pursue the spotlight, much of the feedback they get will likely be negative. Rather than regrouping and trying to understand why this is, they (and their supporters) dismiss criticism as “hatred.” It’s a pointless circle.

You don't even remember what you wrote just a couple of posts ago.

You said that she should retreat for a couple of years.

Gottseidank · 09/03/2024 08:23

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:11

I agnostic about her until she made that fucking insensitive comment about ‘Archie made us parents but Lilli made us a family’. As someone who has secondary infertility and would live a second baby I found it tone deaf, cruel and self centred. It just sums up to me that other people are seemingly unimportant as long as Meghan is getting her own way- something echoed by that childhood friend she dumped after the wedding and her own family.

I can see how one or two people in her life could have been toxic and that she would need to cut them out. But when it is almost everyone seems ever been associated with then that suggests that she is the toxic one.

My guess is the Sussex Squaddies are just a narcissistic as she is and that why they go out to bat her her so hard. They love to witness how successfully she emotionally drags other people.

She also said “One child is a hobby, two is parenting..” Just a completely thoughtless & insensitive remark, secondary fertility is a big thing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/people/arid-40747842.html

'One kid it’s a hobby, and two children is parenting.' Meghan Markle on motherhood

She opened up about life after The Firm in an interview with Ellen Degeneres

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/people/arid-40747842.html

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:25

@Gottseidank That is disgusting. What a self centred, thoughtless things to say.

Gottseidank · 09/03/2024 08:26

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:22

You don't even remember what you wrote just a couple of posts ago.

You said that she should retreat for a couple of years.

Yes - retreat from the public eye and stop seeking opportunities to appear in public, buying positions on panel discussions, selling tell-all books.

Please don’t bother reading or commenting on my posts if you don’t understand them - it’s a waste of everyone’s time.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:28

Perhaps she should continue doing endless speaking engagements. Hoisted by her own petard! Of course, some (paid) fans will never recognise that she is wrong. I am convinced that they just love seeing her roll about like a wrecking ball and destroy people. Like some sort of proxy narcissistic supply.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:28

Gottseidank · 09/03/2024 08:26

Yes - retreat from the public eye and stop seeking opportunities to appear in public, buying positions on panel discussions, selling tell-all books.

Please don’t bother reading or commenting on my posts if you don’t understand them - it’s a waste of everyone’s time.

I understood you perfectly.

You want her to retreat.

I think that's ridiculous. She is allowed to do what she wants.

Ill ask you again.
you constantly say how awful meghan is.

Do you also think that camilla is awful? She slept with a married man. She caused Diana huge upset and pain
.
What's your thoughts on camilla?

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:29

Gottseidank · 09/03/2024 08:23

She also said “One child is a hobby, two is parenting..” Just a completely thoughtless & insensitive remark, secondary fertility is a big thing.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/people/arid-40747842.html

Let's quote it accurately. You didn't.

She actually said "someone said to me and Harry that one child is a hobby, two is parenting" someone said it to her. She didn't come up with it.

Mylovelygreendress · 09/03/2024 08:33

@Gottseidank a few days ago I said I would eat my words if Meghan criticised people who who have been so awful online about Catherine and talked sense rather than her usual word salad.
Have just read the gist of her ramblings . No need for me to eat my words !
When she was asked by Katie about the P and G thing did she really have to tell the ( exaggerated) story again ?? I am pretty sure Katie was taking the piss .

Mylovelygreendress · 09/03/2024 08:34

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:29

Let's quote it accurately. You didn't.

She actually said "someone said to me and Harry that one child is a hobby, two is parenting" someone said it to her. She didn't come up with it.

If Would have been better for her not to repeat that ridiculous - and hurtful for many- remark.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:35

@Kjones27

Now I know you aren’t for real. You don’t seem to know anything outside of the half truths of The Crown. It wasn’t Camilla that Diana was talking about in that interview. It was Tiggy Legg-Bourke. Bashir had mocked up a document to convince her that Tiggy (at the time the boy’s nanny) had aborted Charles’ baby. It was part of convincing her to do the interview.

You also don’t appear to know that Diana had affairs with married men as early as three years into her marriage. She broke up Will Carling’s marriage and harasses Oliver Hoare and his wife with phone calls. It is not as simple as ‘poor, betrayed Diana’.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:36

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:22

@Kjones27

No one is saying she should hide away. We are saying that she is unable to apologise for things she has done that are wrong and hurtful. She appears to have a complete inability to reflect on her behaviour and change. Which is textbook for narcissistic personality disorder. No one is ever right all the time.

Her fans would get more traction in talking about some of the negative coverage she received if they could acknowledge that she has sometimes behaved hypocritically and done things that were very nice. The fact they can’t do that at all is what puts people’s backs up.

I’m not even going to engage with your faux ‘what’s wrong with that statement’ because I’ve wasted too much of my life explaining to self centred people why it is insensitive to brag about your second child making you a ‘real family’. The only people I’ve ever met in real life who did this are super toxic and enormously self involved. The fact you can’t get that tells me quite a lot about you. It shouldn’t need explaining that someone with a public platform shouldn’t be making these kinds of crass statements.

There's nothing wrong with what meghan said. You're just finding stuff to her annoyed about.

She said "Lilli made us a family".

I've heard lots of people say similar things.

That when they had a second or third child that their family was complete. That they were happy.

They say stuff like " now we have our full family" or "now our family is complete".

It doesn't mean anything negative about the first child.
It is happiness at having your whole family here

NotMyPage · 09/03/2024 08:38

@Gottseidank is correct, it's simply that they are irritating due to lack of self-awareness and hypocritical, as they dish it out relentlessly causing great pain for their families and at the same time complaining about being picked on. It's self victimisation. Their behaviour is obstinate and unsympathetic, much like the Sussex squad's. I guess they won't be coming to live in the UK, so hopefully they'll carve out a lifestyle that suits them in California. The Uk has enough problems without them returning and the media imploding.

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Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:38

And I am telling you that everyone who says that , including Meghan, is an insensitive, self centred arsehole.

But hey- keep in defending her to the hilt for stuff like this. It just makes her look worse to everyone else and drives home how fanatical her fan based are.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:43

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:35

@Kjones27

Now I know you aren’t for real. You don’t seem to know anything outside of the half truths of The Crown. It wasn’t Camilla that Diana was talking about in that interview. It was Tiggy Legg-Bourke. Bashir had mocked up a document to convince her that Tiggy (at the time the boy’s nanny) had aborted Charles’ baby. It was part of convincing her to do the interview.

You also don’t appear to know that Diana had affairs with married men as early as three years into her marriage. She broke up Will Carling’s marriage and harasses Oliver Hoare and his wife with phone calls. It is not as simple as ‘poor, betrayed Diana’.

Are you saying that Charles didn't have an affair with camilla while he was married to Diana?

He did. He had a very long affair with camilla.

There are factual sources for this

Andrew morton, wrote a book about Diana. With her collaboration.

In his second book, he wrote a chapter about how he was able to write the first book.

He said that Diana spoke into tapes and they were delivered to them.

He said that Diana spoke on the tapes about charles's affair with camilla.

Andrew mourton said that his publishers would not publish the book without proof of the affair.

He said that Diana then showed him postcards and letters from Charles and camilla to each other, spanning years, which confimed their sexual affair.

NotMyPage · 09/03/2024 08:43

There is a term for the behaviour of the handful of batty/botty posters: gaslighting😴

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Lockupyourbiscuits · 09/03/2024 08:43

I’m a bit surprised they haven’t come back at least for visits - if they really want to annoy the royal family and generate lots of publicity this would seem the easiest way

They are both struggling to put in the work for any meaningful money generation

If they were granted their original security I think they would be back like a shot
There is probably some leaning on Charles for another option - I think coming back may soon be their only option and Harry has promised Meghan her popularity can be reversed - this is her condition

Vespanest · 09/03/2024 08:44

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:18

You're saying how horrible meghan is.

And that she should hide away forever?

What about Camilla? Camilla has done things far worse than meghan.

As far as we know, meghan has never had sex with a married man. Camilla has.

WTF shall we start with stoning Camilla in the streets, you can defend someone without the need to attack another woman.

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:45

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:38

And I am telling you that everyone who says that , including Meghan, is an insensitive, self centred arsehole.

But hey- keep in defending her to the hilt for stuff like this. It just makes her look worse to everyone else and drives home how fanatical her fan based are.

"How fanatical her fan base are".

If you read back on this thread, the vast majority of posts on this thread are anti- meghan, the same as they are everywhere else

So i think a more accurate statement is 'how fanatical her bullies are'

I've never liked mob mentality. And I've never been afraid to stand up to them .

Kjones27 · 09/03/2024 08:47

Vespanest · 09/03/2024 08:44

WTF shall we start with stoning Camilla in the streets, you can defend someone without the need to attack another woman.

My valid question is "why does meghan receive so much hate, when camilla _ who has done worse" is just accepted now. It doesn't make much sense.

One guess is because Megan is young and beautiful. Camilla is not.

So there is no jealousy of camilla

Samcro · 09/03/2024 08:48

here we go again. so Meghan was wrong by announcing her pregnancy on a certain day, wrong about saying her family was complete.
batshit really, its almost like anything she says or does is wrong.

Mylovelygreendress · 09/03/2024 08:48

@Kjones27 you are completely missing the point of @Ratsoffasinkingsauage post . We all know that Charles and Camilla had an affair . We all know she was / is the love of his life .
However , Diana had affairs. I am old enough to remember Julia Carling’s anguished article in the press about her husband’s affair with Diana ( they divorced). Diana bombarded the Hoares with silent phone calls which the police traced to Kensington Palace.
What happened to Diana was very sad but she was - like the rest of us- flawed .

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:50

@Kjones27

The only bully I see here is her fans. The misogyny of the Sussex defenders is horrific, yet they claim to be feminists, like their icon.

Let’s talk about shaming Camilla. Or Catherine. Or shall we just whitewash over all the married men Diana slept with because she is seen as #teammeghan?

We see the hypocrisy. The only women who shall be defended by Team Sussex are the acceptable ones. That is not okay.

Salemforcuddles · 09/03/2024 08:52

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:22

@Kjones27

No one is saying she should hide away. We are saying that she is unable to apologise for things she has done that are wrong and hurtful. She appears to have a complete inability to reflect on her behaviour and change. Which is textbook for narcissistic personality disorder. No one is ever right all the time.

Her fans would get more traction in talking about some of the negative coverage she received if they could acknowledge that she has sometimes behaved hypocritically and done things that were very nice. The fact they can’t do that at all is what puts people’s backs up.

I’m not even going to engage with your faux ‘what’s wrong with that statement’ because I’ve wasted too much of my life explaining to self centred people why it is insensitive to brag about your second child making you a ‘real family’. The only people I’ve ever met in real life who did this are super toxic and enormously self involved. The fact you can’t get that tells me quite a lot about you. It shouldn’t need explaining that someone with a public platform shouldn’t be making these kinds of crass statements.

Excellent post

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 09/03/2024 08:52

@Samcro Thabks for calling my sharing my hurt at comments about infertility’batshit’. Par for thé course for ‘feminist’ Meghan supports.

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