Harry’s security case

[smilesy]

The judgment is in Harry loses High Court challenge over UK security protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68421992 See here

He gets security when he sees the king, because the government is not going to let Harry anywhere near the head of state in the company of some random security guard in the employ of Harry; some random of who knows what training/experience, who will have no briefing about what do do in a dangerous situation in the particular environment they are going in to, or what security threats to look out for. Harry’s protection in this situation is incidental to the king’s.

He gets full security. He will always get full security.
Whether it is at the level he considers appropriate for a man of his title and status is another matter.
He needs to accept that decisions are made based on sound evidence, by experts. Not the whim of a wealthy aristocrat.

The only way to curtail Harry is to control his Security- otherwise he would be doing a Royal Tour here
He needs strict handling or he would take the piss and set up his rival court here

As I’ve said before he won’t be ignored and will never have an epiphany and think hang on is it everyone else or could it be …..me

I have also seen underlying elements of the spiteful streak - throwing confetti at his dad - also teasing a young child with popcorn but not knowing when to stop - I think he can interact with “lads” but there is something off about him

He is spiteful - the official papers detail Harry demanding to know the name of the civil servant who made the decision. Perhaps that person is the one who needs protection!

I think the reason he had the outriders etc that day was because the King was waiting to leave for Sandringham and the helicopter was ready . Harry’s flight was delayed so clearly he had to get to Clarence House as quickly as possible.

@Lockupyourbiscuits I remember that incident with the child and the popcorn and thinking there was a nasty edge to it. However at the time he had this cheeky chappy persona and it was covered by the media as him being a joker.

The level of protection for Harry from RAVEC will be described as intelligence led, more than that it’s usually can’t confirm or deny the exact details of security. They will not want an incident under their watch. It’s the baffling thing for me, it’s more dangerous on an individual level for Harry and by extension his family and the security/police protecting him to imply he has inadequate security. You don’t tell burglars that there’s no lock on the door.

That’s a very good point. I imagine that it’s only foreign heads of state who are allowed their own armed security when in the UK and especially when being anywhere near the King. If that was to change for PH, it would have to be changed for anyone else who usually has armed security.

I don’t think anyone is allowed armed security. Wasn’t there a fuss when Biden came to the late Queen’s funeral because his detail were not allowed their guns?

The US secret service protect the president wherever he goes, no matter the local gun laws. The US regards that as completely non- negotiable.

Surely in a two hour car chase through a busy city, someone would have filmed something?

The claim to a two-hour high-speed car chase through central NYC is laughable. Anyone who believes that this happened is an idiot.

I lived in NY for a few years, plus I was there last month. I thought about the car chase when I was in the same street and… yeah, no. Not even at 3am could you achieve “high speed”.

I wasn’t sure and I just checked: they are allowed to carry but they have to abide by the UK’s rules of engagement. The incident I was thinking of was actually in Ireland where the president’s security were not allowed guns inside the Irish parliament. I was getting a bit mixed up 😆

It's not about armed security. It's about some potential dufus getting in the way. Imagine a scenario with someone approaching the King and Harry is in his path. Harry's private protection moves in to protect Harry, but in doing so, gets in the way of the King's protection or the King's exit strategy, putting him in greater danger. Harry's private security has no joined up thinking with the King's, his job is to protect his man. The government security will have joined up thinking between different people on the ground and different agencies - as well as having discussed with the King what he needs to do to protect himself - with everyone knowing what to do and where to go in a situation.

Posters on X doing a deep dive into that last minute letter submission from NYPD Chief of Intelligence, are finding the Chief of Intelligence and Counterterrorism, a male, retired in March 2023 and the role title was changed to Deputy Commissioner title in July 2023, and a female was appointed. Questions now being asked if someone was bribed to write that letter, or if it was forged. 😱😂

The foolish, entitled and spiteful behaviour of Harry honestly never ceases to amaze me. He is loosing millions on these vanity law suits.

I really cannot fathom this is the life the pair of them actively chose. Selling tawdry stories on the royals, in advisable legal action due to a misplaced sense of entitlement, being rent a royal at award ceremonies, trying to get ludicrous publicity when they can ie the car chase.

its mind boggling when you think about it. They were working royals, could have hung out with a list. Spent some time in the us, been paid handsomely.

and look at the pair of them. Behaving like grubby grifting pretend working royals, trying to cash in on their links.

I really cannot fathom this is the life the pair of them actively chose.

It's the only option they have: H is stupid and M is talentless. They can create nothing of value themselves as they are unable to so their only recourse is to bite the hand that fed them.

@smilesy he should not ever be given security funded by the uk tax payers!! he should also not be permitted to stay at any royal palaces castles or premises. He should be booking himself into the top floor of a hotel and he can have the whole top floor in which to entertain any friends who actually want to see him and his entitled, nasty witch of a wife!!

@smilesy to be honest, not sure how the gun and security actually work because i lived across from the a scottish ambassadors house for a foreign country and when their first minister visited this country, the guards were standing outside with guns!!

“Dufus” is a great word 😆

Scottish ambassador? What are you talking about?

Scottish ambassador?

Scottish Ambassador?

I know the Scottish Government have delusions of grandeur but I wasn’t aware they had appointed Ambassadors!

Aww, thank you 😊

@Gottseidank Scottish ambassador? sorry I meant another country's ambassador in scotland