Harry’s security case

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The judgment is in Harry loses High Court challenge over UK security protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68421992 See here

As you suggest the Express isn't to be relied on, but I'd be absolutely amazed if he doesn't attend

It is after all just about the only thing he's got left which has any credibility, and in fairness he genuinely seems to enjoy being with the vets, even if far too often he's been unable to resist making it about him

Here is the link

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1891747/prince-harry-invictus-games-security-uk-return

..even if far too often he's been unable to resist making it about him

Will be very interesting to see what he does here, as claiming that he can travel to say, Jamaica, without issue but cannot come to an event at St Paul’s in the City of London in the wake of losing his judicial review application is the epitome of making the story about him, not Invictus.

This is interesting, if true, because it suggests a shift in his thinking. Perhaps it has finally sunk in the half in, half out isn’t ever going to happen. He’s hot getting a house or security here and he needs to plough all his efforts into making a proper go of it in the states.

Or the Express is talking shite.

Maybe he's seen the size of the demonstrations in London in support of Gaza/Gazans and he's frit about being party to the recent inclusion of the Israeli IDF in the Invictus Games. Could be fraught.

I know this is really stupid of me, Serenster, but I hadn't twigged that the St Paul's thing is actually an Invictus celebration

So yes, whether he comes or not it might have been better to avoid centreing his own "wants" on this one - if only he could

Absolutely this. Either way, the event ends up all about him.

If and a big massive IF this was true then it is very short sighted. Where does that leave him visiting countries or even Europe who will not allow armed personal security.

If true, he’s behaving exactly like the petulant teenager people say he is. Imagine worrying about your safety in and around St Paul’s / staying in a royal property or a fancy hotel, as a high profile Prince, when you’re supposed to be there to support wounded vets some of whom who literally gave a limb to protect the realm.

Only Harry. What a hypocrite. Making money off of his army career and tours in Afghanistan, now too scared to set foot in the UK. Idiot.

I'd be surprised if he has quite the same issue with visiting other countries, Vespanest - after all they're not the ones who've told him he can't have something he wants

Also, shenandoahvalley, there seems no reason for him to worry unduly since we've never yet lost a visiting dignitary and I don't imagine the security services plan to start now

Good job, isn't it, that all the vets didn't refuse to serve because they "might not be safe" ... and isn't service supposed tao be universal?

It's absurd that Harry, Mr Eco-Travel Guru himself, would fly all the way from LA to London just to attend a church service. I realise he has form for doing exactly that, but personally I think a virtual appearance would be far more appropriate. If he lived in the UK then obviously his presence would be required, but he doesn't and therefore it isn't. He's just a spoiled child trying to make a point. Let's hope that £1 million bill for the court case gives him pause for thought in future and encourages him to be a little less litigious.

He's really painted himself into a corner with this 'security' nonsense, hasn't he?

There's a reason why such matters are normally strictly confidential. But Harry has made his security arrangements, or lack thereof, into a news story.

There is no way RAVEC would want anything to happen to the King's son on their watch. They also have a very good record in what they do. If he's been told he will receive full security should there be a need, that's exactly what will happen. Now he's run up a massive legal bill, wasted public resources, and made what should be a highly confidential and sensitive matter into gossip fodder. He really does not know how to function in the real world.

Shifting the focus a little, does anyone else think a church service commemorating the anniversary of a sports event is strange? Yes, I know it's not just any sport event, but still it seems a bit much.

It’s clear he would get security, it’s a planned event and falls into what he was promised.
At this point he will start hurting the brand of Invictus and stop being an asset if he starts using it in his silly games.

I don’t think it’s a church service. Apparently it’s a fundraising dinner in the crypt below St Paul’s.

No one has said he can’t bring his own security either. Isn’t that what he would do in any other country? Why does he think he can’t do this just because it’s the UK? If the event was in, say, Spain, would he not take his security with him? If another government wouldn’t provide him with security, would he just go security free? Something doesn’t add up

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Because it's not about security.

It's about resentment and ego. He wants what his brother has and cannot accept his loss of status.

He can bring his own security but they won't be allowed to be armed. That's the issue, he wants armed protection.

But he's travelled to other countries where he won't have armed security either.

It's just Britain he has an issue with.

Also, even in American his security may be allowed to carry arms, but they have no special rights above those of any ordinary citizen.

As @IcedPurple says Harry uses this as his excuse, but private security are subject to regulation on whether they can be armed in other countries. He also seems to want access to intelligence about his security from the UK security services but he is not going to get that in any other country either. His position really does defy logic

I’m not sure he can afford, or more likely wants the cost long term of the invictus games, the games in Germany left more questions than answers. At least Canada is not as far and he subsidised the recent pre year event with a film crew. It’s his place to shine and I honestly believe he is passionate about but I dread to think how much he and Meghan have to pay to be the face of. Its costs he’s never had to consider

Yup, it costs a lot of money to be a global philanthropists. Did they not realise?

This is the crux of the matter, yes.

Well, I don't suppose H ever had to think for hinself, so he probably didn't realise. And I think M fundamentally misunderstood the difference between royal and celebrity, that the jewels and glamour are largely loaned/inherited rather than personal property/wealth. So she probably didn't realise either...

How does he think Taylor Swift manages? By paying for her own security.

Taylor Swift reminds me of Martin Lewis's adage that to be successful you need four things: talent, focus, hard work, and luck.

H&M have struck lucky in many ways, but they need to harness those other three things now for real. It's not enough to snipe at others for not having them. They need to demonstrate the components - talent, focus, hard work - and they need to do these things not just say words. Especially as their luck seem to be running out.