Prince William's Absence (Part Two)

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Following on from this glorious thread

William just pulled out of event due to personal reasons http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/theroyall_family/5017144-william-just-pulled-out-of-event-due-to-personal-reasons

No they don't, but they also feel the effects of the financial insecurity that brings, them and their children miss out on the things they could have had and have less choices in life. It's not the same.

The disappearance of Kate is getting really odd now

Well it certainly highlights how much privacy they can get when it suits them.

Honestly all the stuff about the Queen never having time off , what rubbish . She had no engagements ( other than things like the ghillies ball at Balmoral and the local Highland Games) between July and September every single year unless there was the odd v important appearance like opening the Olympics . She also had no engagements in January because she was at Sandringham , a month off after Maundy Thursday etc etc. This was not just when she was old but for most of her reign . We noticed it less because they didn’t announce it .

I have had some contact with the Wales’ through work and I don’t think they are lazy. Yes the Gloucesters turn up to do more ribbon cutting but I can tell you from direct experience that whilst they are brilliant at working the crowd and making the visited feel special they know very little about the cause or organisation. In contrast the Wales’ will know a lot and have really done their research.

William has been open about doing less superficial ribbon cutting and more using their influence and ability to make contacts ( like it or not they are a huge draw to change makers and big donors) to make real and measurable change . Sadly I think the people as evidenced on this thread just want them out there being clothes horses and planting trees, which is a shame because he’s a thoughtful intelligent man who understands how to use his influence.

https://www.eonline.com/news/1396022/thomas-kingston-husband-of-lady-gabriella-windsor-and-pippa-middletons-ex-dead-at-45

Is this why?

Easter is 31st March, not 1st.

So there's a month to go before it's odd

Neither a royalist nor an anti-royalist here, but I have worked in a role where I've interacted with senior royals on a regular, repeated basis, and have to say that I find the idea that they are are overworked very, very funny.

As one example, a senior royal would come for a quite short visit (30 minutes? 45 at most), would unfailing have rejected reading the briefing document about the nature of their visit and who they were meeting, and would be swept away on the dot at the conclusion of their visit.

It would have taken underlings months to prepare for this visit where the senior royal would gaze thoughtfully while having their photo taken and make very shallow small talk reflecting their lack of engagement. That would be their only responsibility that day (as reported in the circular).

I take no view on whether various royals are good or bad people, and I frankly don't care, but my view is that they are absolutely very pampered, priviliged people, surrounded by nannies/cleaners/PAs and staff, who do very little of what normal people would regard as 'work.' They may resent this work when they compare themselves to their extraordinarily wealthy peers who have no public obligations, but overworked or hardworking or even 'working'? That's a no from me, hun.

I'm sure that was known about more than two hours before the service and his parents in law managed to attend.

No.

Oh and on the three months off , there’s another thread on here with someone having lymph nodes removed who has been quite rightly signed off for three months . No one is saying that’s odd and there are plenty of people posting saying they’ve had similar . A colleague of mine was signed off for two months after hernia surgery. No one was out banging on her door for appearances .

oh and for the record she was paid in full for the whole period .

So how many tax payer funded years do they both get to be "hands on parents"? And "wall to wall public duties?" Seriously?

The royal family brings in more money than it costs the tax payer.

William has his own income from the Duchy of Cornwall, anyway.

And yes, once they are King and Queen they will have many more duties.

What's your point?
Envy?
You're a republican?

@CurlewKate

As this is a parenting site, supposedly to support parents, it's shocking how many posters are insisting that parents of 3 children see less of them, and spend more time turning up in suits or a posh dress to cut ribbons.

AND as a PP has said, they are doing a lot more behind the scenes that isn't headline news, than you are aware of.

Your posts just smack of ignorance and envy. And a complete lack of realism.

This has been discussed many times on both this thread and its predecessor.

It's vanishingly unlikely because:
a) death was discovered on Sunday, so family and friends would have known days before the service, and there was time to plan support for Lady Gabriella
b) her parents were at the service; even if William wants to be with her, there was no need to pull out from the service (as lots of other time before and after for that)
c) they were not close family (second cousins once removed); on friendly terms but not clear f they were close friends

Why did you not think it odd when the Queen disappeared every year for over three months with no explanation. It is really because you have a purile interest in someone’s health ?

I agree with this.

I believe that one issue is that the calibre of the Wales's chosen staff, particularly PR, is poor, much lower than the 'men in grey' who facilitated HMTLQ's apparent hard work and efficiency.

Secondly, I see PW buying into the zeitgeist of publicising your suffering e.g. being front and centre with Bowelbabe et al., which would be an alien concept to his grandmother's generation.

Perhaps it's unfair to compare the Waleses to his grandparents' approach as the times are very different, but he needs to bear in mind the level of stress experienced by the average citizen in today's world when referring to 'work'.

Surprised that I've sat and read through this thread despite the fact I'm fairly indifferent to the royals.

My guess is that whatever surgery she had altered her appearance and she doesn't want to be seen till back to normal.

Maybe abdominal swelling from hernia repair/ removal.

Ileostomy or something that may take some getting used to.

Weight loss and looking drawn from having to be on a liquid diet.

Moon face / swelling from a course of steroids

Etc.

Its sad really if that is the case but I don't blame her. The amount of insults selena gomez and Amy schumer got for having moon face as a result of steroid treatment. No wonder she'd want to hide away If she was looking bloated or puffy, or emaciated.

I think many people don't understand the media these days, particularly right wing press and magazines too. The RF provide them with constant 'content' and at the moment that content is looking a bit light- hence stoke up some stuff- that will give them something to write about !! I'm not a royalist but surely any intelligent person can see they are 'an industry' - just the same as these days 'uni' is very much an industry- with lots of people needing to feed off it for their jobs.

'who understands how to use his influence.'
well he's hardly being too thoughtful or intelligent right now is he? I doubt anyone really thinks the speculation and complete lack of communication about representatives of the state who are paid by the taxpayer is good.

Absolutely. They're not ordinary individuals with private lives - they're publicly funded figures, and for all that privilege, part of the deal is they need to continually consolidate their bond with the public as that's the only way to maintain support and relevance.

And because they've explicitly said that's not why he didn't attend.

@ExactlySo Yes, I am a Republican. But I am no more envious of the RF than I am of any other very rich people. Which isn't very.

And no, I don't want them to see less of their children. Go them, IMHO. But they could put themselves about a bit while those children are at school, surely? They could work a normal working week like everyone else?

You do if you’re having a mental breakdown

@Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain if a relative’s husband died suddenly you wouldn’t care because they were posh.

In the process you might lose your home, your job, not have your choice of private facility for treatment, lose all your savings and have to change your child's school, withdraw them from hobbies, downgrade your car or give it up, live on the breadline, among other things. You may end up homeless and struggle to get help if you don't have someone to advocate for you to get you what you need. Unless you are royal and have security while you receive care. I don't begrudge them their more fortunate position in adversity but it is a totally different reality.

Ok so I think the pegging theories might be my favourite. I’m assuming no takes them seriously. Also, just WHY?

Apparently it is ‘common knowledge’ that wills likes to be pegged (wtf!!) and Kate won’t do it. Well! He’s had to sort her out!
Why did he leave the memorial early? Probably some quick pegging.