Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Absolutely. I reckon more people would turn out to see a sportsperson or an actor

As if more people would turn up to see Tom Daly cut a ribbon compared to the King and William or Catherine!, it’s not just the people concerned it’s what they represent and the cache they bring to events, in the case of royalty they are representing hundreds of years of tradition and ceremony which is ingrained in British life whether you like it or not, would Tom Cruise attend an air ambulance fund raiser if Greg Rutherford was patron? Not likely.

Don't delude yourself into thinking Harry opposes hereditary titles and their privileges - he has retained and made it clear that he's intent on retaining his title and ensuring the next generation inherits theirs.
He comes across as simply a spoilt, self-involved and self-pitying individual who wanted greater control and status within that heirarchy, rather than advocating for the common person or seeking to abolish it. He then lashed out for literally years when he didn't get his own way.

"Buckingham Palace previously announced that Prince Harry and Meghan would no longer use their His/Her Royal Highness titles after they stepped back from their roles as working members of the royal family in 2020. Though they could still be referred to formally as the Duke and Duchess of Sussex."

Harry hasn't turned his back on his family he is only doing his thing and he is entitled to do it.

https://people.com/meghan-markle-prince-harry-tell-critics-they-will-not-be-broken-8584077#:~:text=Buckingham%20Palace%20previously%20announced%20that,Duke%20and%20Duchess%20of%20Sussex.

Brave???!? @Runnerinthenight

You have a strange concept of brave. He has attacked individuals in public, at length, for money, knowing that they lack the ability in any meaningful way to reply. I think that is the behaviour of a bully and a coward. The idea that the British public would now be expected to turn out, cheer, waves flags, clap and show their support for him is revolting. And if that is what KC chooses then, frankly, fuck him too.

Teentaxidriver · Today 19:36

Brave???!? @Runnerinthenight

You have a strange concept of brave. He has attacked individuals in public, at length, for money, knowing that they lack the ability in any meaningful way to reply. I think that is the behaviour of a bully and a coward. The idea that the British public would now be expected to turn out, cheer, waves flags, clap and show their support for him is revolting. And if that is what KC chooses then, frankly, fuck him too.

I think you tagged the wrong poster! I agree with you 100%!

Sorry Runner!! Am getting a bit worked up about PH returning to rescue the RF, or however they spun it 😆

So you have the energy to save articles on these two for future reference, just not actually read them?

They continue to refer to themselves using the titles "Duke" and "Duchess". As stated there.

Yes you are correct because they can use those titles it was given to them so it's theirs to use.

My point being (I can't remember if it was you that I was responding to) that they're in no way against hereditary titles or privileges.

The timing of it just strikes me as distasteful.

I have no doubt that H&M would have some support if they came back. What with his big giving heart and all…

The thing is, his big giving mouth has done a huge amount of damage and will have damaged the trust of not only his family, but those who formerly supported him.

I do understand that his father’s health will have troubled him and both will regret the events causing the current situation. Relationships can be repaired but trust cannot. Not really.

Life would be awkward and uneasy with H (or H&M) in the RF vicinity.

I think it is time for H to step back and make the best of the life he chose.

They are using their titles that was given to them and earning their own money. They are not taking from the public purse so there's the difference. Many celebs who have been given the right by the royal family to use the name dame or Sir for their public services to entertain or win medals etc. They use that title sir or dame but they don't take from the public purse.

Correct, and this highlights their lack of opposition to hereditary privilege or titles.

Celebrities given knighthoods differ slightly: they typically achieve prominence through hard work and talent before being offered such honors. For instance, Paul McCartney, for example, earned his knighthood based on his own hard work and talent - not who his father or mother was. In contrast, Harry would never have been a duke if not for accident of birth.

Carpediemmakeitcount · Today 19:51

They are using their titles that was given to them and earning their own money. They are not taking from the public purse so there's the difference. Many celebs who have been given the right by the royal family to use the name dame or Sir for their public services to entertain or win medals etc. They use that title sir or same but they don't take from the public purse.

Nothing remotely similar to people who have been awarded a title for an achievement. Harry and Meghan have their titles because of his family history. They were specifically told not to monetise those titles, which are a privilege in fact and not a right!

That is a good idea.

We can have all the new Sirs, Dames, OBEs and the rest to turn up to cut ribbons as part of the title deal. They would be still deemed to represent the Crown/Government. We don't need the son/brother/SIL/uncle of the King to do this. Enough of it
After all, what's the Duke of something got to do with the Wimbledon championships for example?

They can't use HRH title because they are no longer working royals but they can use Duke and Duchess.

How could he return when he not just trashed the family but the institution and individuals who work in it? Spare was viciously rude about people who worked for the queen and Charles. Harry expressed his outrage about the whole system, in particular the way PR works, ie relationships built with the press, particular stories timed and pushed over others. None of that has changed.
I still laugh remembering the Netflix's X trailer with Harry darkly muttering 'There. Is. A . Hierarchy '.
No shit.

Coronateachingagain · Today 20:08

After all, what's the Duke of something got to do with the Wimbledon championships for example?

The Duke of Kent had a very long association with the all-England club. The Princess of Wales is now the patron. She has an interest in tennis and plays.

I very much doubt this. If anything he may see it as a way to prove their original request to be part time royals was the best all along

Maybe just maybe all the Sirs and the Dames will be doing their actual jobs which gave them the honours in the first place? how about the royals continue to do what the government instruct and pay them to do, represent the country.

@ArcaneWireless

And also damaged the trust of those who (if he came back to "help out") might be asked to interact with him as the King's representative. Diplomats and politicans at e.g. state dinners should be able to assume that their conversations and behavior won't be replayed for lols in Spare II.

And yet he's never seen to use it.

Unlike 'Harold' and this week's reversion to 'Sir' which seems all the more surprising after the man of the people 'Just Call Me Harry' posturing at the beginning of this circus.

If we are to have senior royals represent the government and country at home and abroad whilst flogging their ‘brand’ to the highest bidder for sponsorship deals then I will be at the front of the queue signing the petition for a republic.

Prydddan

I never thought of that but you are of course right.

I wonder if H ever really considered the full implications of his actions.

I suspect not.

Fine the main ones- monarch and heir and spouses. Get them to actually do more than go to parties. By all means have them if we need a RF so badly. What about the rest of them? I think people would come to see Greg Rutherford over Prince Ecwards, kid. Cut them loose. Including Williams younger kids. This crap about how they need to draft in some random cousins because they are all sooo overworked is nonsense.

I'll join you too if this happens.

Also yes, all these Sirs Dames would make better use of their time if they continued to do their jobs. Was just an idea. Let's keep brainstorming how to change the status quo ha