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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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TitusGroaned · 25/02/2024 21:38

Suppress the royal rewrite (whatever that means) and instead continue to distribute the distorted views and untrue beliefs of a mentally unwell woman in the throes of paranoia? I like celebrity gossip as much as the next poster, but that really is a step too far. Her poor brother also admitting how he was groomed and tricked into it all, has also asked for it not be put into the public domain again, he was also an victim of bashirs machinations so I’d rather respect his wishes about the whole episode.

AliceOlive · 25/02/2024 21:40

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/02/2024 15:10

The judge hearing the visa/FOI application is a Trump appointee and described there being a number of “red flags” relating to the matter. I doubt Trump himself would do anything direct, and it’s his government that let Harry enter the US in the first place. However, Biden, wanting to be seen to be being tough on lying, privileged immigrants, in an election year where immigration is the hot topic after the economy, might be a completely different story.

The Biden administration is doing the opposite of enforcing any immigration laws and is suing Texas for trying to implement their own.

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 21:42

It’s like illegally obtained evidence - deemed completely inadmissable because of how it was obtained.

Well we only have the ghastly Spencer's word for how much Diana was influenced by the evidence presented to her.

I think she viewed Panorama as a heavy hitter to get her side out there.

MrsFinkelstein · 25/02/2024 21:44

Diana herself came to regret the Bashir interview, as it led to the divorce and that the means Bashir used to get the interview meant she said things that were deliberately hurtful and provocative (& not entirely true).

She wasn't averse to getting her own side out there (the Morton book), but the Bashir interview was inflammatory in ways the Morton book wasn't.

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 21:46

Diana herself came to regret the Bashir interview

Are there links for this assertion?

TitusGroaned · 25/02/2024 21:48

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 21:42

It’s like illegally obtained evidence - deemed completely inadmissable because of how it was obtained.

Well we only have the ghastly Spencer's word for how much Diana was influenced by the evidence presented to her.

I think she viewed Panorama as a heavy hitter to get her side out there.

So we should ignore what her brother said about the experience he was directly involved in, concerning his own sister, it’s only his word after all.

But we should take note of your personal opinion which claims to have a special insight into her view on the matter. Ok, gotcha.

Serenster · 25/02/2024 21:48

Well we only have the ghastly Spencer's word for how much Diana was influenced by the evidence presented to her.

That’s irrelevant when you can demonstrate it was obtained by fraud.

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 21:54

That’s irrelevant when you can demonstrate it was obtained by fraud

But you can't.

TitusGroaned · 25/02/2024 22:00

Sure Martin, we believe you, the whole thing is really fuelled by ‘professional jealousy’ and you’re only being targeted because of your ‘background and ethnicity’.

We’ll politely overlook the court apology, promise made by the director general, and the first hand eye witness accounts by parties actually involved.

MrsFinkelstein · 25/02/2024 22:04

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 21:46

Diana herself came to regret the Bashir interview

Are there links for this assertion?

I believe it was from friends of hers
(?Rosa Monkton) who said this. I have no reason to disbelieve them. But I would say her family & friends would know her best.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/02/2024 22:06

I saw the interview when it was broadcast. I was never a Diana fan, so thought it was all a bit of a whine.

Do you know what Bashir told her @CathyorClaire ? The forged documents were to persuade her that her royal protection was on the make and betraying her. So she got rid of them. Possibly at the cost of her life. He persuaded her that Charles was planning to have both her and Camilla murdered, because he'd got the boys' nanny pregnant and wanted to marry her. Do you think it's possible, with the seed planted in her head that she was in incredible danger from her husband, that she may have been persuaded to say far more in that interview than she otherwise would have? Blowing up her family and leaving a terrible legacy for her sons.

Serenster · 25/02/2024 22:07

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 21:54

That’s irrelevant when you can demonstrate it was obtained by fraud

But you can't.

But I can:

The BBC fell short of "high standards of integrity and transparency" over Martin Bashir's 1995 interview with Princess Diana, an inquiry has found.
Bashir acted in a "deceitful" way and faked documents to obtain the interview, the inquiry said.
Bashir said mocking up the documents "was a stupid thing to do" and he regretted it

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/02/2024 22:09

Interview with Andy Webb, the journalist who uncovered the Bashir scandal and who recently sued the BBC under the Freedom of Information Act over emails they are still covering up about the matter.

Ep.9 | Diana, Bashir and the BBC - with Andy Webb

Andy Webb is the investigative journalist and filmmaker who revealed the truth behind the infamous BBC Panorama interview with Princess Diana, and generated ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1MmTStvb5c

Coronateachingagain · 25/02/2024 22:09

Well, as much as she was a very intuitive woman, she was not that smart. Who knows what she was told and what she did with it.
Now she did have the courage to stand against the almighty crushing power of an institution a thousand years old and for that I do respect her.

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 22:12

We’ll politely overlook the court apology, promise made by the director general

Royals have always said 'jump' and auntie has always asked 'how high?'.

Plus ça change

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/02/2024 22:16

What on earth are you talking about? The BBC covered up the forgeries - that were discovered very soon after the interview - until the Dyson Inquiry in 2020. At huge cost to the royal family's reputation and to Diana. That's not jumping to the command of the RF, is it.

TitusGroaned · 25/02/2024 22:18

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 22:12

We’ll politely overlook the court apology, promise made by the director general

Royals have always said 'jump' and auntie has always asked 'how high?'.

Plus ça change

So Martin admitted to making false documents because the royals told him to say it? Ok, makes sense 🙃

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/02/2024 22:18

Coronateachingagain · 25/02/2024 22:09

Well, as much as she was a very intuitive woman, she was not that smart. Who knows what she was told and what she did with it.
Now she did have the courage to stand against the almighty crushing power of an institution a thousand years old and for that I do respect her.

Diana knows what she was told. And she told her solicitor. Who told the Dyson Inquiry.

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 22:19

The BBC fell short of "high standards of integrity and transparency" over Martin Bashir's 1995 interview with Princess Diana, an inquiry has found.
Bashir acted in a "deceitful" way and faked documents to obtain the interview, the inquiry said.

And yet the most important voice of all isn't represented.

Coronateachingagain · 25/02/2024 22:21

My point being not that smart and a bit gullible. Combine that with a close net of advisors/trusty people that did not do a good job at it and it is a recipe for disaster.

But.

She was facing one of the most powerful, influential, oldest institutions of the world at the time. So her resources were necessarily limited, difficult to get good advisors who help you see the right picture and make the right decisions.

CathyorClaire · 25/02/2024 22:32

Do you think it's possible, with the seed planted in her head that she was in incredible danger from her husband, that she may have been persuaded to say far more in that interview than she otherwise would have?

I don't think she was persuaded with 'seeds planted in her head'. I think she said exactly what she wanted to say and Panorama presented her with the credible platform to do it.

The fake document circus while a fascinatingly appalling distraction doesn't do her credit IMO.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/02/2024 22:42

Incidentally, it was also on this boat that Diana told me that she regretted doing the Panorama interview, among other things because 'of the damage it did to my boys'.

The words of Diana's friend, Rosa Monkton, who describes how paranoid Diana became after becoming involved with Bashir. How the interview hastened the divorce and left Diana without royal protection.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8931109/ROSA-MONCKTON-Martin-Bashir-filled-vulnerable-friend-Princess-Diana-delusional-anxieties.html

ROSA MONCKTON: Martin Bashir filled Diana with delusional anxieties

ROSA MONCKTON: The first I knew of Diana's execrable interview with Martin Bashir on BBC Panorama was the evening that it aired.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8931109/ROSA-MONCKTON-Martin-Bashir-filled-vulnerable-friend-Princess-Diana-delusional-anxieties.html

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/02/2024 22:57

Coronateachingagain · 25/02/2024 22:21

My point being not that smart and a bit gullible. Combine that with a close net of advisors/trusty people that did not do a good job at it and it is a recipe for disaster.

But.

She was facing one of the most powerful, influential, oldest institutions of the world at the time. So her resources were necessarily limited, difficult to get good advisors who help you see the right picture and make the right decisions.

Bashir persuaded her that her friends were in on betraying her. So she didn't seek their advice.

TitusGroaned · 25/02/2024 23:06

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/02/2024 22:42

Incidentally, it was also on this boat that Diana told me that she regretted doing the Panorama interview, among other things because 'of the damage it did to my boys'.

The words of Diana's friend, Rosa Monkton, who describes how paranoid Diana became after becoming involved with Bashir. How the interview hastened the divorce and left Diana without royal protection.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8931109/ROSA-MONCKTON-Martin-Bashir-filled-vulnerable-friend-Princess-Diana-delusional-anxieties.html

To have distressed another person like that, for a scoop. What a venomous toad. I thought Harry was against underhand immoral journalism like this? Is it only when it results in bad headlines for him?

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