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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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mrsmingleton · 23/02/2024 00:17
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yup

JSMill · 23/02/2024 10:11

I feel those comments about 'everything' she did 'for this country not my country' shows the contempt she has for the UK. I may be unfair in saying that but that's just how it comes across to me. Not to mention she quite happily goes around using a title from this country. I'm not exactly sure what she thinks she did for this country in the less than two years she was a working royal.

Devastatedandblindsided · 23/02/2024 10:58

Harry should never have married her with that attitude. It’s clear she resented everything that was expected of her. She thought she’d get all the clothes , jewels and houses without needing to actually find out anything about the country or its traditions or what was required of her in return. She’s still grifting. Living off Harry’s money, not working in any real sense but still bleating about what a victim she is.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 23/02/2024 11:23

JSMill · 23/02/2024 10:11

I feel those comments about 'everything' she did 'for this country not my country' shows the contempt she has for the UK. I may be unfair in saying that but that's just how it comes across to me. Not to mention she quite happily goes around using a title from this country. I'm not exactly sure what she thinks she did for this country in the less than two years she was a working royal.

What gets me is ‘this country’ gave her the vast wealth, fame and status she couldn’t get on her own merit. The contempt she shows for the UK yet has the gall to try and set up their own royal court using titles this country’s head of state bestowed on her is sickening.

CoffeeCantata · 23/02/2024 11:26

When I think of how far I could have got in life if I'd had just an ounce of Meghan's brass neck...

Lampslights · 23/02/2024 11:29

Devastatedandblindsided · 23/02/2024 10:58

Harry should never have married her with that attitude. It’s clear she resented everything that was expected of her. She thought she’d get all the clothes , jewels and houses without needing to actually find out anything about the country or its traditions or what was required of her in return. She’s still grifting. Living off Harry’s money, not working in any real sense but still bleating about what a victim she is.

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To be fair, Harry was selling that to her. He himself said in the docu series she was the new Diana, he seperately took exception when Charles said he wouldn’t pay for her clothes any more due to the eye watering amount she was spending, and he himself said she was there to modernise the monarchy. He was selling that shit to her, and she bizzarely bought it. Likely as she desperately wanted it to be true, it was the gig of a lifetime.

she was going to be the star of the monarchy, have unlimited clothes funds, pick and chose her gigs, run it the way she wished, hang with a list stars, that’s the shite harry was selling her and she was lacking in just enough intelligence to understand there was absolutely no way.

she never thought she needed to learn tradition. Or any thing else. As Harry was telling her she would run the monarchy as she wished.

they are a pair of utter fools.

Vespanest · 23/02/2024 12:08

I do not think for a second Meghan is a fool. Meghan had she stayed could have lived in luxury, the cost of a royal lifestyle is expensive but the money always remain in the direct line. It’s a rented lifestyle. It’s much more difficult to grow your own wealth and especially those marrying in. Ignoring what is state and not state owned the majority of the private wealth of the Queen and probably Charles will do the same stays in the inheritance tax free succession. Balmoral and Sandringham alone a couple of hundred million. Even with all the admirers Diana had she would have needed extra to live a royal lifestyle. I’d go as far as to say that the arrangement at present is far more financially better for Meghan, it’s Harry who looses, whether it can be maintained is a different matter, but she has probably more wealth than many of the royals it’s whether they can keep it and live like they are doing. If it works Meghan has ensured her own and children’s personal wealth, not reliant on father’s and in the future the brother’s approval. I do not think they factored in removal of security and Charles pulling back financial support.

pilates · 23/02/2024 12:51

Little girls dream of being princesses. I, for one, was all about She-Ra, Princess of Power. And grown women seem to retain this childhood fantasy. Just look at the pomp and circumstance surrounding the royal wedding and endless conversation about Princess Kate. “

An extract from The Tig several years before she met Harry.

I sense contempt for Kate from Meghan before she even met her.

She-Ra: Princess of Power - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She-Ra:_Princess_of_Power

Lampslights · 23/02/2024 15:59

Vespanest · 23/02/2024 12:08

I do not think for a second Meghan is a fool. Meghan had she stayed could have lived in luxury, the cost of a royal lifestyle is expensive but the money always remain in the direct line. It’s a rented lifestyle. It’s much more difficult to grow your own wealth and especially those marrying in. Ignoring what is state and not state owned the majority of the private wealth of the Queen and probably Charles will do the same stays in the inheritance tax free succession. Balmoral and Sandringham alone a couple of hundred million. Even with all the admirers Diana had she would have needed extra to live a royal lifestyle. I’d go as far as to say that the arrangement at present is far more financially better for Meghan, it’s Harry who looses, whether it can be maintained is a different matter, but she has probably more wealth than many of the royals it’s whether they can keep it and live like they are doing. If it works Meghan has ensured her own and children’s personal wealth, not reliant on father’s and in the future the brother’s approval. I do not think they factored in removal of security and Charles pulling back financial support.

I understand your point, and to some extent agree it. This scenario has made Megan much wealthier than being a working royal. But I do think she lacks intelligence. Being a grifter doesn’t exclude that potential. They are not mutually exclusive.

fortunately for her Harry is a bit thick and very damaged, so easily manipulatable. He wanted to be more important than his brother, to have the wife and kids, and Megan presented him with that opportunity. He thought she was a big star, and I’m sure she didn’t dissuade him of that idea.

but The steps they have taken are misguided to say the least. The lies she has told, have erred on stupidity. From not knowing the royals, to getting married a day early etc, it is bordering on idiotic, her infatuation with being famous, being with the famous, for rhe sake of it, is not the sign of someone highly intelligent. The damage to her own rep could have been avoided, she could have played it smarter.

it also seems highly plausible she did indeed bully staff at rhe palace, and the palace have covered this up for her. A smart person would have managed that very differently.

for me she’s a fame hungry, grabby, grifter. She’s done very well for herself, and she hard core dumps and discards those who don’t serve her in her quest. She’s highly focused on achieving her rich and famous goal and takes everything she can get.

I doff my cap to her, she’s come a long way, she is a self made woman, her children are titled. She’s a multi multi millionaire, she’s grifted her way there and achieved a lot. She is no fool. She has street smarts, she has her eye on the main chance, she knows where the money is, but she’s also lacking in an additional layer of intelligence that would have had her reputation protected as well.

who cares though. She never has to work a day in her life again. Nor do her family. Her kids are protected, so who cares if the public dislike her. She can do as she pleases. Her grifting days are over if she chooses.

Spectre8 · 23/02/2024 16:36

@Lampslights

who cares though. She never has to work a day in her life again. Nor do her family. Her kids are protected, so who cares if the public dislike her. She can do as she pleases. Her grifting days are over if she chooses.

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Crazy how people have so much to say about how they make money and how they spend it abd omg don't they care about their reputation and what people think.

Well no.

You see plenty of threads on here where people moan about how their friend etc inherited money etc and how they don't get it or lazy or it's not fair etc

Just goes to show though when it comes to money and u have it there will always be negative comments made about you and the type of person you are

If I had that type of money I wouldn't give a flying hoot what other people thought of me

BackToWhereItAllBegan · 23/02/2024 18:20

I think they are incredibly rich, beyond most people's wildest dreams but they haven't yet hit the level they want to be at.
For example, their own yachts and jets, multiple homes in glamorous locations and the security of knowing the money will NEVER run out for them or their children.
I often think the perfect level to be at is upper middle class. Mortgage free, good pensions, several nice holidays a year and you can sleep at night with no financial problems. The further people get beyond that, the more obsessed they seem to become with wanting more, more, more and that seem to bring endless grief and problems!

Propertylover · 23/02/2024 20:34

@BackToWhereItAllBegan You are correct.

I have said it multiple times but I don’t think M, and perhaps H, understood the cultural differences between royalty and celebrity. For royalty the palaces, private helicopters, planes, cars, clothes etc. are funded differently. The Sovereign Grant funds public appearances and the associated trappings but only for working royals. The RF are held accountable for that expenditure to the public who fund it via their taxes.

All the trappings on public engagements give the appearance of the RF are billionaires, but the real personal wealth is vested primarily in the monarch and heir.

As you say H & M are wealthy but to afford the RF lifestyle you need 100s of Million or even billions. Some yachts cost £500,000+ to buy and cost at least £50 K a year to run. H & M are not in that league.

CathyorClaire · 23/02/2024 20:44

Meghan had she stayed could have lived in luxury

There was always more than enough for both of them to live in private luxury for their lifetimes. Harold had inheritances from Diana and from the Queen Mother conservatively estimated at tens of millions. Meghan brought several million 'Suits' dollars to the table.

Bottom line is they want a billionaire lifestyle on millionaire money and haven't got the wit or talent to achieve it.

MaturingCheeseball · 23/02/2024 20:51

And Meghan (nor Harry either by all accounts) did not want to do the dreary community centre openings - just the glam stuff in glam outfits and with glam A-lister friends. I started to feel a bit dubious about her at that baby shower. It was awfully tacky and grabby.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 23/02/2024 20:58

Just goes to show though when it comes to money and u have it there will always be negative comments made about you and the type of person you are

No not always true there are plenty of mega rich people who don’t draw the same criticism and in fact are loved and admired, people draw their conclusions from their behaviour and the words that come out their own mouths, to say Meghan only gets criticised because she is rich is laughable.

If I had that type of money I wouldn't give a flying hoot what other people thought of me Edited

Meghan cares deeply what people think and say about her, she is incredibly thin skinned, she and Harry want to shut down any criticism of themselves in the media and on social media hence their affiliation with the Aspen institute.

FuzzyManul · 23/02/2024 21:06

CathyorClaire · 23/02/2024 20:44

Meghan had she stayed could have lived in luxury

There was always more than enough for both of them to live in private luxury for their lifetimes. Harold had inheritances from Diana and from the Queen Mother conservatively estimated at tens of millions. Meghan brought several million 'Suits' dollars to the table.

Bottom line is they want a billionaire lifestyle on millionaire money and haven't got the wit or talent to achieve it.

His proper name is Henry, not Harold.

AliceOlive · 23/02/2024 21:14

@FuzzyManul Harry has referred to himself as Harold and to William as Willy. He said that’s what they call one another.

CathyorClaire · 23/02/2024 21:17

FuzzyManul · 23/02/2024 21:06

His proper name is Henry, not Harold.

Please refer to my previous reply to you on this.

Devastatedandblindsided · 23/02/2024 22:04

BackToWhereItAllBegan · 23/02/2024 18:20

I think they are incredibly rich, beyond most people's wildest dreams but they haven't yet hit the level they want to be at.
For example, their own yachts and jets, multiple homes in glamorous locations and the security of knowing the money will NEVER run out for them or their children.
I often think the perfect level to be at is upper middle class. Mortgage free, good pensions, several nice holidays a year and you can sleep at night with no financial problems. The further people get beyond that, the more obsessed they seem to become with wanting more, more, more and that seem to bring endless grief and problems!

It ironic really because before M came on the scene Harry certainly didn’t care about having an ostentatious life splashing the cash. He wanted to live in Africa.

Vespanest · 23/02/2024 22:17

hoteltango · 23/02/2024 22:08

The Heritage Foundation court case re Harry's visa application is underway.

One source of updates is:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1870244/prince-harry-court-case-live-spare-bombshells

I found the part where it states that being in a book doesn’t make it the truth, no shit Sherlock

Devastatedandblindsided · 23/02/2024 22:19

Well there is no way the US are going to kick him out , is there?

wordler · 23/02/2024 22:28

Devastatedandblindsided · 23/02/2024 22:04

It ironic really because before M came on the scene Harry certainly didn’t care about having an ostentatious life splashing the cash. He wanted to live in Africa.

lol! Are we thinking about the same Harry!
He didn’t want to live in ‘Africa’ - he wanted to live like a rich colonial white man in the lap of luxury on a Botswanan or South African mega ranch. With all the rich people. That look like him.

Devastatedandblindsided · 23/02/2024 22:30

wordler · 23/02/2024 22:28

lol! Are we thinking about the same Harry!
He didn’t want to live in ‘Africa’ - he wanted to live like a rich colonial white man in the lap of luxury on a Botswanan or South African mega ranch. With all the rich people. That look like him.

Yes I agree. However not quite as he is living now!

AliceOlive · 23/02/2024 22:30

hoteltango · 23/02/2024 22:08

The Heritage Foundation court case re Harry's visa application is underway.

One source of updates is:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1870244/prince-harry-court-case-live-spare-bombshells

I’m very anti-drugs and the glorification of them but for some reason this bothers me. I guess because it’s not really helpful in anyway to the huge drug problem in the US. And I don’t think our government applications for anything should ever be made public.

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