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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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EdithWeston · 20/02/2024 09:30

BigWillyLittleTodger · 19/02/2024 20:21

But are they concerned enough to do anything? surely at some point the government needs to step in and tell Harry to stop interfering in matters of state which don’t concern him?

I'm not sure they do.

What I think they need to do is send a message at the next planned interaction with Harry's interlocutors (so next time the High Commissioner sees the Governor General; plus next time anyone from the High Commission meets a First Nations representative, they will send the message that Harry was speaking in a private capacity and nor representing HMG. (Then they'll repeat the HMG line, stressing the most helpful bits)

Edited to add: it's quite likely, in the diplomatic world, that this is seen as only a small puddle to mop up. And future ones will get smaller and smaller as it's realised he speaks with no authority. Though of course it won't stop it getting press coverage, which could be either positive or negative

MaturingCheeseball · 20/02/2024 09:36

I can see Harry enjoys the Invictus Games and is clearly a sporty person. But wth was he doing mucking around with First Nations issues? Hmmmm, rocking up in Jamaica and then Canada… seems like some bright spark has suggested he colonises the Commonwealth….

wildernesssw · 20/02/2024 09:40

Odd, isn't it?

There are First Nations organisations in the USA, no need to travel...

Mylovelygreendress · 20/02/2024 09:44

StartupRepair · 19/02/2024 23:37

Lol, perhaps he will return Canada to its original people on behalf of the Crown.

I think the FO needs to step in. Harry has definitely crossed a line .

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/02/2024 10:39

As I said, he’s a liability
He’s not a politician. He doesn’t represent the government, or the crown
He’s supposed to be there to promote the Invictus games, not to be discussing any past or present commitments of the crown

Agree with all of this, @PaperSky - it's just that I'd have thought anyone who was listening would have realised it without the need for repetition

BreadinCaptivity just put it better than I could, but as I've said so often it's a matter of judgement (or lack of it) on Harry's part, and I really don't ssee hiim reining it in any time soon

(Sorry, I made a complete mess of the header there, but hopefully you get the gist)

CoffeeCantata · 20/02/2024 10:50

Deavstatedandblindsided
I do actually wonder if the illnesses that Charles and Kate have may have been exacerbated or even caused by stress.

I think you may be right. We know that stress is a huge factor in health, and the mental anguish he's put some of his family through over the last few years must have taken a toll on their mental, if not physical, health. It really don't think it's too dramatic to say that.

Frankly, no wonder William looks so stressed most of the time. Imagine being branded a racist*, and having all your family conflicts told to the world while having to appear in public and perform perfectly.

*It was particularly awful that H & M's original accusation of racism was so vague, so that everyone came under suspicion. If I had to go around having been publicly accused of racism, I'd definitely have a breakdown!! I would be so angry and ashamed.

Lampslights · 20/02/2024 10:57

hoteltango · 19/02/2024 21:58

He does seem like the Duke of Windsor (as others have said). He wants to be important, but doesn't have the smarts for that. Meghan is more intelligent and educated, but I don't think she can grasp the diplomatic aspects.

That's an interesting point, Prydddan. I would hope that organisations realise how much negative publicity Harry brings and not want him involved. He is certainly a liability. His current highish profile in Canada is only because of the Invictus Games.

I think she does grasp it, but she wants harry to be that person, with that gravitas, so badly, she goes with it, encourages it, as by default if he’s that person she is important too.

the problem is they are now setting their stall out. They want to be those people so badly that’s what they will roller coaster try to do, behave as royal, get involved in politics, the fact they have no sway, won’t stop them.

buckingham palace won’t stop them unless they attempt to make a commitment on behalf of the royal family , as long as they are just pretending, playing dress up and going through the motions, they will let them crack on, as it’s no secret that’s what the deal is.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/02/2024 11:16

I'd be interested to know what Meghan did for First Nations groups during her many years living in Canada.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/02/2024 11:23

Frankly, no wonder William looks so stressed most of the time. Imagine being branded a racist, and having all your family conflicts told to the world while having to appear in public and perform perfectly.*

Especially in situations where you know many people of colour will be present (as they will be in anything relating to the arts and sports, which are extremely diverse industries, thanks to our diverse, tolerant and multi cultural society) and possibly judging you negatively or being nervous to meet you because they think you are a bigot. This is the problem with the sort of critical race baiting narratives that H&M have pushed, elevating their own dubious conduct on that score into a protective shield of virtue and victimhood, whilst branding people with no history of racist conduct as the villains. It's a microcosm of what's happened in wider society.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/02/2024 11:25

@mrsmingleton I believe KC and CC were due a visit back to Canada this Spring, but this has had to be postponed because of his cancer treatment. And I do wonder if Harry knew this and decided to steal a march on his father via the IG, or show his father that he could step in for him (so giz a job, gov).

mrsmingleton · 20/02/2024 11:27

It is an accepted medical fact that stress can lead to many illnesses.

mrsmingleton · 20/02/2024 11:29

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/02/2024 11:25

@mrsmingleton I believe KC and CC were due a visit back to Canada this Spring, but this has had to be postponed because of his cancer treatment. And I do wonder if Harry knew this and decided to steal a march on his father via the IG, or show his father that he could step in for him (so giz a job, gov).

He is the false prince - I have to wonder what these people were thinking actually but they would not be the first to be taken in by vague words looking at you Oprah .

Coronateachingagain · 20/02/2024 13:21

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 20/02/2024 11:16

I'd be interested to know what Meghan did for First Nations groups during her many years living in Canada.

😅

Devastatedandblindsided · 20/02/2024 14:25

mrsmingleton · 20/02/2024 11:27

It is an accepted medical fact that stress can lead to many illnesses.

Yes it definitely is .

Olivie12 · 20/02/2024 14:30

notthatthis · 18/02/2024 03:55

I bet your family won't throw you under the bus and give stories to the press which are untrue in order to hide their own drama. Why do you think Harry should keep quiet when they are doing that to him? I would never be quiet and wouldn't take it.

That was never proven; besides, don't you think he got enough revenge already? He spilled many secrets, manipulates the information (racism, unconscious bias, etc).

If he hates so much the royals, he should give up his titles, stop using them and would have never given prince/princess titles for his children. It's all about the money and fame he's getting paid to throw his family under the bus. He says he hates the media, yet he can't stop talking to them or giving any small type of new information he gets, such as giving a new interview about his father who was just diagnosed with cancer. It seems he doesn't have any empathy towards his father, it's despicable!

Maireas · 20/02/2024 15:44

Those ridiculous claims that the RF put out negative stories about Harry! We all thought he was a pleasant cheeky chappy - that was palace PR. There were plenty of stories about his horrible behaviour and how unpleasant he is, which I only found out from Spare. The RF protected him, shielded him, put out a good image for him. Oh, and gave him Invictus.

Lampslights · 20/02/2024 15:54

Maireas · 20/02/2024 15:44

Those ridiculous claims that the RF put out negative stories about Harry! We all thought he was a pleasant cheeky chappy - that was palace PR. There were plenty of stories about his horrible behaviour and how unpleasant he is, which I only found out from Spare. The RF protected him, shielded him, put out a good image for him. Oh, and gave him Invictus.

yes He didn’t understand how well protected he was and his own privilege.

anything negative he blamed on someone else, the media, his family. And refused to accept it was his responsibility. Refused ro acknowledge how much of his shit they covered up,

Someone must have leaked,my family ir the media hacked me, he didn’t understand that his family was working overtime to project an image of him that was very positive. And hide his worst excesses from the public and his true nature , which we have now seen as irresponsible, entitled, arrogant and spiteful

I wonder if he realises now, or if he still thinks it was all some big conspiracy against him.

he clearly lacks intelligence, and I suspect has a relatively low iq, and simply doesn’t understand the bigger picture, which is why he’s in such shit now, being a bit thick and supremely self important, is a dangerous mix. And when you couple it with someone fame and money hungry like Megan, it’s a recipe for disaster.

TitusGroaned · 20/02/2024 15:55

CoffeeCantata · 20/02/2024 10:50

Deavstatedandblindsided
I do actually wonder if the illnesses that Charles and Kate have may have been exacerbated or even caused by stress.

I think you may be right. We know that stress is a huge factor in health, and the mental anguish he's put some of his family through over the last few years must have taken a toll on their mental, if not physical, health. It really don't think it's too dramatic to say that.

Frankly, no wonder William looks so stressed most of the time. Imagine being branded a racist*, and having all your family conflicts told to the world while having to appear in public and perform perfectly.

*It was particularly awful that H & M's original accusation of racism was so vague, so that everyone came under suspicion. If I had to go around having been publicly accused of racism, I'd definitely have a breakdown!! I would be so angry and ashamed.

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Maireas · 20/02/2024 15:56

Good points, @Lampslights - also, all that alcohol and drug consumption won't have left him with a clear head.

Direstraightsagain · 20/02/2024 16:00

I think this shows how much the monarch needs Kate.
I hope she’s ok. Haven’t heard anything new on her except return to work except press stories that mentioned she’d be back ‘by Easter’ became ‘at Easter and is now ‘after Easter.’

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/02/2024 16:13

It was particularly awful that H & M's original accusation of racism was so vague, so that everyone came under suspicion

Yes it was, and while I've said this before I strongly suspect the palace quizzed them for details of who was supposed to have said what and when; after all it would be the obvious thing to do

Clearly I can't know if they'd have a credible answer, but if not it could well explain Harry's backpedalling later

EdithWeston · 20/02/2024 16:22

Direstraightsagain · 20/02/2024 16:00

I think this shows how much the monarch needs Kate.
I hope she’s ok. Haven’t heard anything new on her except return to work except press stories that mentioned she’d be back ‘by Easter’ became ‘at Easter and is now ‘after Easter.’

I think that there will be an announcement a couple of weeks before Easter saying her recovery has gone as planned and she will be resuming public duties as expected after Easter (announcement then, so they can start putting things in her diary)

Then first time seen in public at church on Easter Sunday

Lampslights · 20/02/2024 16:30

Direstraightsagain · 20/02/2024 16:00

I think this shows how much the monarch needs Kate.
I hope she’s ok. Haven’t heard anything new on her except return to work except press stories that mentioned she’d be back ‘by Easter’ became ‘at Easter and is now ‘after Easter.’

The palace hasn’t issued a new announcement, it’s just the media use the terms interchangeably.

i also think she will be back after Easter, she needs to be not sore, able to dress as she normally does (ie nothing rubbing on a scar) doing her work is very time consuming, pre briefing, hair, make up, clothes, travel, and she will be utterly scrutinised when she appears, with Saddos trying to identify what she had done. So she needs to be 100 percent back to normal.

people will be looking at her face, does she appear uncomfortable , her body, has she gained or lost weight, how she dresses, is it the same or different, does her style of clothing give anything away, how she moves, what shoes she’s wearing. It would be unbearable for most.

personally my opinion is she needs to stay out of the public gaze till she’s back to normal, as the attention is going to be enormous.

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