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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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Prydddan · 19/02/2024 21:03

P. S. Harry is low-hanging fruit for the people who replaced Epstein.

PaperSky · 19/02/2024 21:04

hoteltango · 19/02/2024 20:59

I saw that mentioned on another site, and someone posted an archived link to a news report from the Telegraph:

https://archive.ph/5URkx

Full link for those who'd prefer it:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/02/17/prince-harry-first-nations-vancouver-canada-invictus-games/

I dislike the immaturity displayed by both of them. But Harry, in this case, has taken play-acting a royal to another level. This is potentially a diplomatic row in the making.

This can’t just be left ignored, surely.

The rest of it they can just roll their eyes, but it has to be made crystal clear all round that Harry in no way represents the crown.

The fact he’s agreed to any of this just shows how he can’t see he’s being used.

The man’s a liability.

derxa · 19/02/2024 21:05

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 20:21

I agree. However any protests from them would only stoke the fires and lead to more mud slinging from Harry. I am actually totally staggered by the lack of self awareness. I do actually wonder if the illnesses that Charles and Kate have may have been exacerbated or even caused by stress.

I totally agree. They have caused such distress. Imagine being Charles and Catherine and being accused of being racists and that news being broadcast all over the world. I don't know who or what will stop them.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 19/02/2024 21:13

PaperSky · 19/02/2024 21:04

This can’t just be left ignored, surely.

The rest of it they can just roll their eyes, but it has to be made crystal clear all round that Harry in no way represents the crown.

The fact he’s agreed to any of this just shows how he can’t see he’s being used.

The man’s a liability.

But it is being ignored, no one is shutting them down, no one, and the more this continues the more buoyed they become, this is only going to get worse.

Serenster · 19/02/2024 21:15

The rest of it they can just roll their eyes, but it has to be made crystal clear all round that Harry in no way represents the crown.

To be honest, Charles could quite justifiably leave this to Rishi Sunak/David Cameron to act on.

hoteltango · 19/02/2024 21:15

I think it needs a statement from the Foreign Office that Harry does not represent the United Kingdom nor the King in any such talks.

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 21:17

I do wonder why they are invited to do these things in the first place. Why do their hosts believe they are actually worth listening to?

Prydddan · 19/02/2024 21:26

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 21:17

I do wonder why they are invited to do these things in the first place. Why do their hosts believe they are actually worth listening to?

See my previous post re Epstein.

Anyone wanting to destabilise any Western trade/political alliances/detentes - hire Harry, give him a speech to read ( he knows that bit) and a cheque and a pat on the head, and see what mayhem you can create. He's small fry, but is still a useful, ahem, tool in this kind of scenario.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 19/02/2024 21:30

Prydddan · 19/02/2024 21:26

See my previous post re Epstein.

Anyone wanting to destabilise any Western trade/political alliances/detentes - hire Harry, give him a speech to read ( he knows that bit) and a cheque and a pat on the head, and see what mayhem you can create. He's small fry, but is still a useful, ahem, tool in this kind of scenario.

Agree with this and he’s too thick to realise.

ArcaneWireless · 19/02/2024 21:33

I think that, at some point, the Foreign Office is going to be suggesting that H&M be put on the payroll, so that they can be controlled. With a watertight NDA, I hope

Rewarded for being a liability? I would hope not.

A few beautifully worded statements could do it.

Silence isn’t doing it. Time for him to be told to pack it in in no uncertain terms.

And if they do not? Then every alleged buried story can come out to play in the sunshine.

They've already shown that stories don’t necessarily have to be true. Two can play that game.

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 21:35

Prydddan · 19/02/2024 21:26

See my previous post re Epstein.

Anyone wanting to destabilise any Western trade/political alliances/detentes - hire Harry, give him a speech to read ( he knows that bit) and a cheque and a pat on the head, and see what mayhem you can create. He's small fry, but is still a useful, ahem, tool in this kind of scenario.

It’s quite worrying actually when you consider all the implications.

NotARealWookiie · 19/02/2024 21:36

I think he’s always wanted a foot in so this is nothing new? He won’t be allowed because he sadly can’t be trusted.

hoteltango · 19/02/2024 21:58

He does seem like the Duke of Windsor (as others have said). He wants to be important, but doesn't have the smarts for that. Meghan is more intelligent and educated, but I don't think she can grasp the diplomatic aspects.

That's an interesting point, Prydddan. I would hope that organisations realise how much negative publicity Harry brings and not want him involved. He is certainly a liability. His current highish profile in Canada is only because of the Invictus Games.

Prydddan · 19/02/2024 22:21

@ArcaneWireless

I wouldn't want him to be rewarded either.

But the fact is that Harry is now a liability, and ripe for Epstein#2 picking. I'd prefer that the FO managed that, rather than ignored it.

A few beautifully worded statements isn't going to undo the kind of damage an Epstein-style operation can wreak.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/02/2024 22:29

PaperSky · 19/02/2024 21:04

This can’t just be left ignored, surely.

The rest of it they can just roll their eyes, but it has to be made crystal clear all round that Harry in no way represents the crown.

The fact he’s agreed to any of this just shows how he can’t see he’s being used.

The man’s a liability.

But anyone who's paying attention will know he's not representing the crown

Non-working royal, remember, and even the various things he was made spokesman for have been stripped

BreadInCaptivity · 19/02/2024 22:42

Whilst there are some parallels with the D&D of Windsor I think it's also important to highlight the differences.

As has already been said they received an allowance from the RF which had the benefit of applying certain ground rules to be adhered to if they wished to continue to enjoy that largesse.

It was also a very different age in respect of how people were perceived and perceived themselves.

The idea that the DoW would have to earn his own money would have been alien to him - moreover that he would debase himself by doing so by dabbling in "the arts". Their "star quality" was understood by both of them to rest in their royal titles and connections.

It is worth noting that Wallis got increasingly fed up with being expected to pander to her (man child) husband, keeping him entertained and essentially organising every aspect of his life. Away from the support of The Firm his lack of ability to live independently and thus expectations of his wife became very apparent. He may well have been happy in the marriage but the evidence suggests that Wallis was not.

In contrast the desire to earn their own money was central to H&M's reasons to step away from the RF because they believed their star quality as a couple eclipsed that of H's family.

They felt their "brand" was being thwarted within the institution and outside of it, had the opportunity to earn far, far more than they would gain within it.

They have embraced every single opportunity to earn $$$ irrespective of the consequences and/or optics.

Yet the evidence to date suggests they have been mistaken. Their deals have failed. Their popularity in polling is at an all time low.

H is turning up to the opening of an envelope if there is $$ to be had regardless of how foolish he looks (aviation award) or if it contradicts his own previously stated ethics/behaviours (Kennedy award).

Clearly there is a calculation that the sales from Spare are not going to keep the air con in Montecito running forever.

So what next? Trying to build bridges back with his family (I just can't see that happening especially with William)? Or an ever decreasing and danger spiral of selling himself to the highest bidder and/ or cultivating connections with people ready to fund his lifestyle.....now which other royal does that draw parallels with that didn't end well....

PaperSky · 19/02/2024 22:53

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/02/2024 22:29

But anyone who's paying attention will know he's not representing the crown

Non-working royal, remember, and even the various things he was made spokesman for have been stripped

Edited

Well, someone didn’t get the memo:

The Duke of Sussex has held talks with a First Nations chief about the Crown’s historic commitment to Canada’s indigenous people, as the Duke tells of his hope that “we can depart and return as friends”.
The Duke, who was in Vancouver for an event to promote the Invictus Games, said he hoped to learn more about Canada’s reconciliation process, adding: “Our collective journey through truth and reconciliation is an important one for all of us.”
One chief told The Sunday Telegraph that, while “a lot of politicians say it but they don’t mean it”, Prince Harry has offered to resume discussions next year.

As I said, he’s a liability.

He’s not a politician. He doesn’t represent the government, or the crown.
He’s supposed to be there to promote the Invictus games, not to be discussing any past or present commitments of the crown.

Does he not see how he’s being used, or does he just not care?

BreadInCaptivity · 19/02/2024 23:13

Does he not see how he’s being used, or does he just not care?

Personally I think he's simply deluded as to his own importance and doesn't have the wit to understand the ramifications of his meddling.

He sees an opportunity to keep himself relevant and offer a "modern" alternative to his family without pause to consider why the RF deliberately disassociate themselves from political issues/causes that are potentially contentious.

I think he still believes he has some "soft power" and influence when in fact his involvement in anything, whilst garnering publicity largely shines a spotlight on his behaviour and not the cause he purports to promote.

He and M are out of their depth but lack the necessary ability to reflect or listen to people who say what they don't want to hear.

Surrounding yourself with people who you paid to say "how high" when you yell "jump" isn't going to produce optimal outcomes in any walk of life and you'd think when you've replaced those people multiple times it might start to dawn that the issue is located closer to home.

StartupRepair · 19/02/2024 23:37

Lol, perhaps he will return Canada to its original people on behalf of the Crown.

Maireas · 19/02/2024 23:42

You are spot on, @BreadInCaptivity . "deluded as to his own importance".

Devastatedandblindsided · 20/02/2024 02:02

StartupRepair · 19/02/2024 23:37

Lol, perhaps he will return Canada to its original people on behalf of the Crown.

Love this!

Devastatedandblindsided · 20/02/2024 02:05

BreadInCaptivity · 19/02/2024 22:42

Whilst there are some parallels with the D&D of Windsor I think it's also important to highlight the differences.

As has already been said they received an allowance from the RF which had the benefit of applying certain ground rules to be adhered to if they wished to continue to enjoy that largesse.

It was also a very different age in respect of how people were perceived and perceived themselves.

The idea that the DoW would have to earn his own money would have been alien to him - moreover that he would debase himself by doing so by dabbling in "the arts". Their "star quality" was understood by both of them to rest in their royal titles and connections.

It is worth noting that Wallis got increasingly fed up with being expected to pander to her (man child) husband, keeping him entertained and essentially organising every aspect of his life. Away from the support of The Firm his lack of ability to live independently and thus expectations of his wife became very apparent. He may well have been happy in the marriage but the evidence suggests that Wallis was not.

In contrast the desire to earn their own money was central to H&M's reasons to step away from the RF because they believed their star quality as a couple eclipsed that of H's family.

They felt their "brand" was being thwarted within the institution and outside of it, had the opportunity to earn far, far more than they would gain within it.

They have embraced every single opportunity to earn $$$ irrespective of the consequences and/or optics.

Yet the evidence to date suggests they have been mistaken. Their deals have failed. Their popularity in polling is at an all time low.

H is turning up to the opening of an envelope if there is $$ to be had regardless of how foolish he looks (aviation award) or if it contradicts his own previously stated ethics/behaviours (Kennedy award).

Clearly there is a calculation that the sales from Spare are not going to keep the air con in Montecito running forever.

So what next? Trying to build bridges back with his family (I just can't see that happening especially with William)? Or an ever decreasing and danger spiral of selling himself to the highest bidder and/ or cultivating connections with people ready to fund his lifestyle.....now which other royal does that draw parallels with that didn't end well....

Completely agree.

ajandjjmum · 20/02/2024 08:32

I thought they were friends of the Canadian PM? Stitching him up too.

I think political statements from our Govt. and the Canadian Govt., to say they are getting involved in matters in which they have no authority should be issued, and to ensure there is no confusion, as they are no longer working royals, they will be removed from the royal family website.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 20/02/2024 09:15

I wonder if this is PH showing how he can be helpful if the RF takes him back while HM is unwell (altho that was slapped down yesterday, IIRC). Slap him down again and cue wails of 'but I'm only trying to help papa, you meanies!'

I think political statements from our Govt. and the Canadian Govt., to say they are getting involved in matters in which they have no authority should be issued

I'd imagine that this is being worked on behind the scenes.

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