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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 09:55

derxa · 19/02/2024 09:43

I think Doria worked with the elderly. She wasn’t involved in caring for pre or post natal issues. It would be the responsibility of the HV here not a social worker. Don’t know how that operates in the US. Doria is Meghan's mother. When I suffered pre-natal depression, I called my mother and she came down from Scotland to look after me.

She did have a job though at the time and lived in another country! I recall she was coming over quite a bit anyway. She probably did the best she could but she wasn’t probably familiar with how the UK healthcare system works, what provision Meghan had through her private medical scheme etc.

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 10:00

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 23:35

She always does this. Even Harry looks embarrassed.

Yes I remember her literally pushing Harry out of the way and shoving past him on several occasions. She talks over him, dominates the conversation and behaves as if she’s the one born into the RF. Even at the Heads Together talk when there were four of them she thought it was a platform for her to express her views at the expense of the others.

derxa · 19/02/2024 10:00

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 09:55

She did have a job though at the time and lived in another country! I recall she was coming over quite a bit anyway. She probably did the best she could but she wasn’t probably familiar with how the UK healthcare system works, what provision Meghan had through her private medical scheme etc.

Nothing would stop me coming to help my daughter if she was suicidal. Nothing,

Maireas · 19/02/2024 10:01

Me neither, @derxa . I'd drop everything.

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 10:02

derxa · 19/02/2024 10:00

Nothing would stop me coming to help my daughter if she was suicidal. Nothing,

How do you know she didn’t? She came over frequently.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/02/2024 10:05

Maireas · 19/02/2024 08:47

Indeed. Had he not been with her to the Portland for scans and other ante natal care? Why not contact one of the team?
How about close personal friend Julia Samuels, or other movers and shakers he met on the mental health pathway? His own therapist? It really is bamboozling.

Or how about Lucinda Green, one of the UK's top perinatal psychiatrists, who just happens to have a base at the Portland?

Strange how, with all that support available, Meghan allegedly wasn't able to acccess any, but perhaps no stranger than so many of their claims

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/02/2024 10:13

I think pp who suggested Harry kept quiet about a lot of things and whipped her down the aisle sharpish before she realised what was actually entailed is probably about right

So do I, but the same could be said about the lady herself, in that a longer timescale and more thought might have indicated whether she'd be comfortable the life she was taking on

With more time Harry could even have met more of her circle to get a clearer picture, but perhaps she couldn't risk that happening?

mrsmingleton · 19/02/2024 10:15

M seems to be attention seeking, not happy when she is not the centre of attention, has vague speech patterns, rapidly shifting emotions , dramatic extravagant expressions of emotion , tries to be consistently charming, seems to have difficulty maintaining relationships with people , seems to need instant gratification, looks like she is constantly seeking reassurance . These things are visible when you look closely at footage.

Toooldforthis36 · 19/02/2024 10:29

Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 23:20

What’s ‘largely fabricated’?

William’s utter contempt for Harry and Meghan is evident

Pretty clear that contempt goes both ways. H made such a song and dance about leaving, he looks like a bit of a prat with this.

TitusGroaned · 19/02/2024 10:34

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 10:00

Yes I remember her literally pushing Harry out of the way and shoving past him on several occasions. She talks over him, dominates the conversation and behaves as if she’s the one born into the RF. Even at the Heads Together talk when there were four of them she thought it was a platform for her to express her views at the expense of the others.

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Ahhhh - can that be what Harry was referring to when he said there were ‘cultural differences’?

ArcaneWireless · 19/02/2024 10:36

If Doris came over frequently, then why didn’t M say she was ill to her?

Doria does not strike me as someone who would haud their wheesht if her daughter was struggling.

If she couldn’t organise things then why didn’t she speak to H?

I get that M may not have been well enough to arrange her own help but I’m sorry, her husband and her mother (knowing her best you would think), would have been better placed to identify that something was wrong - even if she was unable to articulate it.

To try to blame anyone else before or instead of those two is bloody unfair and flat out wrong.

Something reeks about the j’accuse. It honks in fact.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 19/02/2024 11:15

I think someone has mentioned previously sometimes Meghan appears a bit socially awkward and seems to be over aware of how she is coming across - I think this has led to her looking like she is acting a role instead of living it

I’m not sure why this is but maybe it could be common to all actors

One instance very telling was when she snapped at an aide at the Windsor walkabout when an aide tried to take flowers
she immediately checked herself and was overly obsequious which just looked odd

I think it must be quite wearing to be always holding your true emotions in check
Most of us don’t have to

I’m sure she did have a melt down when pregnant but then ( like the titles racism angle ) it was shoe-horned into the horrible Royal Family and nasty HR narrative

Perfect to counteract the bullying but saying you were suicidal and told to go away is not believable - but we are not allowed to question it - it’s not the suicidal but we are questioning but it all gets wrapped up together

smilesy · 19/02/2024 11:24

ArcaneWireless · 19/02/2024 10:36

If Doris came over frequently, then why didn’t M say she was ill to her?

Doria does not strike me as someone who would haud their wheesht if her daughter was struggling.

If she couldn’t organise things then why didn’t she speak to H?

I get that M may not have been well enough to arrange her own help but I’m sorry, her husband and her mother (knowing her best you would think), would have been better placed to identify that something was wrong - even if she was unable to articulate it.

To try to blame anyone else before or instead of those two is bloody unfair and flat out wrong.

Something reeks about the j’accuse. It honks in fact.

it could be said that the story has more holes in it than a Swiss cheese… 😆

ArcaneWireless · 19/02/2024 11:28

😁

ArcaneWireless · 19/02/2024 11:31

My apologies. My autocorrect went for Doris instead of accepting DoriA. I thought I’d spotted the changes but didn’t get them all.

Sorry.

FuzzyManul · 19/02/2024 11:52

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FuzzyManul · 19/02/2024 11:54

I have asked for my post to be withdrawn so that I could re-word it.

Meghan has form for saying things that do not hold up under scrutiny.

CoffeeCantata · 19/02/2024 12:16

So many perceptive posts here - which ring true to me.

It does seem far-fetched that no help was available to Meghan when she felt desperate. It's hard to make this 'version' fit with what we know - as stated by pps. Much more likely that help was offered, but Meghan wanted her choice (paid for by the RF), and wouldn't compromise. I don't believe for a minute that she was kept as a prisoner and left to suffer alone. And yes, Harry was her first port of call for help in that situation. I'd forgotten the Princess Diana story, which, like so much in Meghan's life, seems to be an echo of Harry's mother's troubles.

Their refusing help and advice seems to be at the bottom of so many of their subsequent problems. Apparently, the RF were really concerned about Doria being M's only relative at the wedding (bit of a red flag, we can now all see) and urged Meghan to allow her to be seated with the other members of the royal party. But Meghan was adamant Doria should sit alone. I remember feeling for her, and wondering why she was so isolated, but it seems it was a deliberate policy from Meghan. It didn't look good, and unfortunately some people inferred that she'd been snubbed by the RF in a very cruel way, when nothing could have been further from the truth.

On the topic of H & M returning to the royal fold, I agree with the poster who made this excellent point that I hadn't considered, but it's absolutely right: leaving aside the deep personal issues involved, as royals they would need to be 'water-tight- in terms of discretion because they'd be meeting politicians, diplomats and foreign heads of state. No-one will ever trust them again, so they've really blown it if they envisaged a return to high-level, glamorous royal life. Maybe the odd ribbon-cutting in Widnes (no offence - I come from near there!!) with minders, but even that would be very doubtful (I hope!).

I'm not a fan of H & M (you can probably tell) but I wish no harm on them, just that they settle down to their life in the US and stop trying to be royals in one of the worlds most established republics.

CoffeeCantata · 19/02/2024 12:23

FuzzyManul · Today 11:54

I have asked for my post to be withdrawn so that I could re-word it.
Meghan has form for saying things that do not hold up under scrutiny.

Yes,and I've always found this incredibly insulting as a Brit! Does she think we're idiots?? I could make a list, but I'll refrain.

Newchapterbeckons · 19/02/2024 13:21

Errrr can’t see this happening at any level. Nope.

ajandjjmum · 19/02/2024 13:53

I think they both raced to the altar for their own reasons. Meghan - so that Harry didn't find out that she wasn't the amazing creature that he believed, and so that he didn't get to know her family. Harry - so that she didn't see/learn the truth of life inside the Royal bubble, and although there are lots of perks, there are many disadvantages. And no payment as such for the hard work.

I can then imagine them being encouraged to move on to their own life, as they'd already shown themselves to be the stars of the show - the promises of a life full of freebies and adulation - and of course, £1 million contracts. Enough to turn anyone's head!

CC49 · 19/02/2024 14:19

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 09:08

How do you know this?

I've seen this mentioned several places for years, but none from an official source. The friend is Taryn Toomey.

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 14:20

So maybe she was quite particular about the ‘place’ she wanted to go. That would fit .

Porkfest · 19/02/2024 14:34

The baby shower with her mother and all her close girlfriends in NYC was in the weeks following the Royal Albert Hall event. From press coverage at the time this appeared an intensely social and high profile few days away - maybe this was the boost she needed to get her MH back on track.

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 14:39

Porkfest · 19/02/2024 14:34

The baby shower with her mother and all her close girlfriends in NYC was in the weeks following the Royal Albert Hall event. From press coverage at the time this appeared an intensely social and high profile few days away - maybe this was the boost she needed to get her MH back on track.

Except the Palace was holding her passport !!

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