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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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Viviennemary · 18/02/2024 22:30

Brumhilda · 18/02/2024 22:09

She didn’t really cope, she could have had a much better career than she had.

The great list of folk who have done her wrong is endless. Hmm.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 18/02/2024 22:42

I think this picture sums up Harry’s place in the pecking order.

Harry wants to come back and ‘help’
smilesy · 18/02/2024 22:45

BigWillyLittleTodger · 18/02/2024 22:42

I think this picture sums up Harry’s place in the pecking order.

That is one of the strangest greetings manoeuvres I have ever seen 😂

BigWillyLittleTodger · 18/02/2024 22:47

smilesy · 18/02/2024 22:45

That is one of the strangest greetings manoeuvres I have ever seen 😂

Isn’t it just!

ArcaneWireless · 18/02/2024 22:50

Aye smilesy.

A hugger.

And an afterthought.

GlorianaCervixia · 18/02/2024 23:14

I don't see her as a victim. I see the two of them as a perfect storm of petulant man-child colliding with pompous celebrity. Neither of them ever had any interest in doing the dull day-to-day work of the royal family.

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 23:34

TitusGroaned · 18/02/2024 22:02

I haven’t seen it, as in he was annoyed at her for looking scared?

Yes as if she was holding back. He had to take her hand and support her. His hand holding was 3/10 on her score I think.

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 23:35

BigWillyLittleTodger · 18/02/2024 22:42

I think this picture sums up Harry’s place in the pecking order.

She always does this. Even Harry looks embarrassed.

TitusGroaned · 18/02/2024 23:42

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 23:34

Yes as if she was holding back. He had to take her hand and support her. His hand holding was 3/10 on her score I think.

ahhhh I think I see, I’ll see if I can find a clip

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 23:45

It was in a lot of what I call "raw footage " which CNN were broadcasting live I think. Also there was a bit right after he had taken part in the ice slalom.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 19/02/2024 00:27

Funny how one princess gets criticised for getting stuck in and taking part when invited, not just leaving the physical challenges to her husband; and the other gushed over for her costume changes and posing prettily like a good self proclaimed feminists.

chrisfromcardiff · 19/02/2024 00:29

wordler · 18/02/2024 20:54

There was a lot that was strange with that story.

She went to the head of the Palace HR instead of approaching either her own GP or the doctor in charge of her prenatal care (where they consistently ask you about your mental health).

He felt too ashamed to talk to his own family about it - despite having campaigned with both William and Kate about removing the stigma around mental health issues, Kate attending group therapy with her own brother, William urging Harry to do therapy for years.

And he didn’t think to help Meghan find a therapist in the UK having his own therapist on speed dial.

She said she was told by the HR person that she wasn’t allowed to ‘go somewhere’ for help - I can’t remember the exact phrasing she used but it implied some sort of residential place - but because Oprah abdicated all interviewer responsibility there was no follow up to check whether ‘the place’ she wanted to go was suitable in terms of security etc.

The main benefit of being royal is surely that all the doctors and help you need will come to you privately and as discreetly as you need. And you don’t want to swamp a mental health facility with armed security and all the press outside because that will seriously impact all the other vulnerable patients.

It's not ever going to make sense because both of them are fixated on "their" truth; the one that makes them look like victims. I think they forget that there are tapes of what they say and it is possible to go back to their statements and see they are making things up as they go along. Immense hubris causes a person to lose focus and not see what is already out there. Sickening couple.

Runnerinthenight · 19/02/2024 00:45

I don't understand how a jumped up actress can make so many demands on the Royal Family! Who the hell does she think she is??!

Lancrelady80 · 19/02/2024 00:55

I don't have much time for Meghan and Harry - they have totally betrayed their families and done their best to disgrace the monarchy and Britain as a whole so far as I can see. Where their brains are, God only knows, as there certainly weren't any involved over the disclosures made in Spare, and there seem to have been ridiculously transparent lies aplenty. I think pp who suggested Harry kept quiet about a lot of things and whipped her down the aisle sharpish before she realised what was actually entailed is probably about right. I think Harry has been as much use as a husband as a chocolate teapot, and I think there have been a lot of misunderstandings due to clashes in culture and perspective, where things have been taken in the worst possible way. I think they both keep each other whipped up in a state of victimhood when really things would be best left to die down. I accept I know nothing and these are just my surmisings, based on what the media (and Harry, and Scobie) have told us.

But this from a pp She however could have found a therapist for herself is ridiculous. I am happy that whoever posted it has clearly never been in that state. I have. It was awful, and completely debilitating. I wasn't capable of finding a pair of matching socks from my sock drawer, let alone up to navigating finding a reliable and discreet therapist.

StartupRepair · 19/02/2024 03:03

@Lancrelady80 my sympathies to you and to anyone feeling like that. Have been close to it myself. However Meghan had unlimited financial resources, a top obstetrics team, and a husband who headed up a mental health charity. It is hard to believe that help was not available. Given her pregnant state it would have been acceptable to cancel the outing.

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 05:42

BigWillyLittleTodger · 18/02/2024 22:42

I think this picture sums up Harry’s place in the pecking order.

Oh dear! 😳

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 05:48

GlorianaCervixia · 18/02/2024 20:36

Because she was depressed?

I'm not a fan of Harry or Meghan but it's hardly unreasonable to think that her husband should have helped her when she was saying she was suicidal.

So if someone is depressed, it is incumbent on someone else to find them a therapist? I understand how debilitating depression is but this is taking things too far.

GlorianaCervixia · 19/02/2024 07:01

Devastatedandblindsided · 19/02/2024 05:48

So if someone is depressed, it is incumbent on someone else to find them a therapist? I understand how debilitating depression is but this is taking things too far.

So you understand that depression is debilitating but you still think someone who is saying they're actively suicidal, e.g. Meghan saying she could not be left alone because she would kill herself, should be told to pop onto google and sort it all out themselves? Rather than their spouse giving them some help? Even if that spouse has their own therapist, their own mental health charity and a lifetime of experience at negotiating the institution they're part of? That is truly bizarre.

themessygarden · 19/02/2024 07:42

I think it's not hard to believe that she would have been wary of trying to find a new therapist, in her new role, or reluctant to use one she may have used previously from her California days or first marriage breakdown.

This is why it is so hard to believe Harry didn't step in to help her, the woman felt like she was going to take her own life and that of her unborn son, Its hard to understand why she would have gone to HR in the first place, especially when at that time they believed the 'Firm' were leaking like sieves against them. If Harry was totally useless, what about Eugenie who was already a friend and close to Harry, who would have been very discreet, and whose mother must have had therapists on speed dial. The whole HR people not helping, looks like it was just thrown in there to fit their narrative of the horrible RF.

At the same time, when she is felling overwhelmed during her pregnancy, Harry is bringing up an episode from years previous, telling her his family said racist things about their future children, why wasn't he protecting her from unnecessary hurt?. I don't know how she is still married to him, in hindsight.

Theunamedcat · 19/02/2024 08:16

GlorianaCervixia · 19/02/2024 07:01

So you understand that depression is debilitating but you still think someone who is saying they're actively suicidal, e.g. Meghan saying she could not be left alone because she would kill herself, should be told to pop onto google and sort it all out themselves? Rather than their spouse giving them some help? Even if that spouse has their own therapist, their own mental health charity and a lifetime of experience at negotiating the institution they're part of? That is truly bizarre.

Because she quoted his mother that's what made it unbelievable

His mother allegedly threw herself down stairs when pregnant with Harry meghan said she wanted to do the same but wouldn't Because she didn't want him to lose another woman he loved like he lost his mother its all too dramatic to be believed but maybe it is true but it feels like manipulation

Theunamedcat · 19/02/2024 08:18

Anyway the story that was floating around was meghan wanted to check herself in to a clinic (more common in America) and was told that's not the normal here we keep it in house so to me it sounded like a culture clash

Serenster · 19/02/2024 08:22

Theunamedcat · 19/02/2024 08:18

Anyway the story that was floating around was meghan wanted to check herself in to a clinic (more common in America) and was told that's not the normal here we keep it in house so to me it sounded like a culture clash

But also not accurate - as the Duchess of Kent, who in the 1970s had been a very high profile senior royal, checked in for six weeks in-patient care in 1976 or so following a full-term stillbirth and subsequent loss of another baby. Mental health care was certainly not recognised then as it is now - but she had a lengthy stay in a clinic then.

Vespanest · 19/02/2024 08:24

Whatever you think of Meghan, to blame a distressed person for not getting their own help is disgusting, especially if any form of psychosis had developed, or self harm/suicidal tendencies, we encourage those to speak and get help, certainly do not berate. Its victim blaming unless you think mental illness is not an illness.

themessygarden · 19/02/2024 08:26

His mother allegedly threw herself down stairs when pregnant with Harry meghan said she wanted to do the same.

Gosh, I didn't know that Diana had said something similar😮

She could have discreetly got on a private plane to a clinic in the US or even closer to home, in Switzerland, and been treated in a very private, very exclusive clinic who cater to high profile patients.

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