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Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Gottseidank · 16/02/2024 22:55

Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

Revealed: Prince Harry ‘seeks royal return to heal rift with King Charles’

Duke said to have had warm exchanges with King after his father’s cancer diagnosis

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

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Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 20:41

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 18/02/2024 20:38

It’s not being ridiculous to suggest that the husband of a suicidal woman, who’d moved to another country to be with him, should have helped her when she told him he was suicidal.

It’s what any decent partner would have done.

I’m sure he tried his best to be supportive and caring. She however could have found a therapist for herself.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 18/02/2024 20:47

I don't think your question is unreasonable at all @Devastatedandblindsided However, the two of them have tried to make the RF responsible for this lack of help, and in particular through their mouthpiece Scobie, Catherine. Somehow Catherine should have been the one getting Meghan help, not the independent, resourceful, mature, hit the ground running, California therapy culture woman herself, and not her mental health advocate husband.

Flopsythebunny · 18/02/2024 20:48

HaverStockHere · 17/02/2024 10:08

Barely anyone gives a shiny shit that Megan was a woman of colour in the UK

That is absolutely not why we hate the woman

She went on Oprah and said the whiney stupid things she said

Can't be trusted and chatted shit about the royal family

Stupid woman

You think the royal family and upper classes are not racist?
The hate for Megan started long before the Oprah interviews

Lea3 · 18/02/2024 20:51

Flopsythebunny · 18/02/2024 20:48

You think the royal family and upper classes are not racist?
The hate for Megan started long before the Oprah interviews

No, I don't. Not generally, although there may be racist individuals, as there are anywhere and in every walk of life - Harry is one, for example: he was caught on camera racially abusing a fellow recruit at Sandhurst.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 18/02/2024 20:54

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 20:41

I’m sure he tried his best to be supportive and caring. She however could have found a therapist for herself.

Why are you sure of that when he said himself though that he didn’t - he went out to an engagement - and he was ashamed? Nothing in his own words that suggest he tried his best to be supportive or caring.

wordler · 18/02/2024 20:54

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 20:41

I’m sure he tried his best to be supportive and caring. She however could have found a therapist for herself.

There was a lot that was strange with that story.

She went to the head of the Palace HR instead of approaching either her own GP or the doctor in charge of her prenatal care (where they consistently ask you about your mental health).

He felt too ashamed to talk to his own family about it - despite having campaigned with both William and Kate about removing the stigma around mental health issues, Kate attending group therapy with her own brother, William urging Harry to do therapy for years.

And he didn’t think to help Meghan find a therapist in the UK having his own therapist on speed dial.

She said she was told by the HR person that she wasn’t allowed to ‘go somewhere’ for help - I can’t remember the exact phrasing she used but it implied some sort of residential place - but because Oprah abdicated all interviewer responsibility there was no follow up to check whether ‘the place’ she wanted to go was suitable in terms of security etc.

The main benefit of being royal is surely that all the doctors and help you need will come to you privately and as discreetly as you need. And you don’t want to swamp a mental health facility with armed security and all the press outside because that will seriously impact all the other vulnerable patients.

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 20:54

To be honest the more I have read and the more I have looked I can see a woman who thought this was all going to be a cakewalk but then realised that she wasn't going to be Number One Princess . She set out hopefully with a good if somewhat inflated opinion of herself. She ended up overstepping herself on occasions - trying to talk to people eg the Queen when it wasn't appropriate, not understanding protocol eg getting in a car ahead of the Queen and trying to push her way in front of others again out of line with protocol. It was a different culture and for someone who had grown up with this feeling of "never being good enough" she took it hard.

The situation as we know it now developed and she is in an arena where she can control her own narrative ( to a certain extent). We have still seen though that same awkward behaviour though on occasions eg the microphone, the pushing and the shoving. I detect this week in Canada a certain something from her when she sees Harry enjoying the Invictus Games and interacting with competitors. She doesn't like it when she is not the centre of attention.

Brumhilda · 18/02/2024 21:03

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 20:54

To be honest the more I have read and the more I have looked I can see a woman who thought this was all going to be a cakewalk but then realised that she wasn't going to be Number One Princess . She set out hopefully with a good if somewhat inflated opinion of herself. She ended up overstepping herself on occasions - trying to talk to people eg the Queen when it wasn't appropriate, not understanding protocol eg getting in a car ahead of the Queen and trying to push her way in front of others again out of line with protocol. It was a different culture and for someone who had grown up with this feeling of "never being good enough" she took it hard.

The situation as we know it now developed and she is in an arena where she can control her own narrative ( to a certain extent). We have still seen though that same awkward behaviour though on occasions eg the microphone, the pushing and the shoving. I detect this week in Canada a certain something from her when she sees Harry enjoying the Invictus Games and interacting with competitors. She doesn't like it when she is not the centre of attention.

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Three words

histrionic personality disorder

and - you heard it here first - Harry won’t survive it.

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 21:07

It certainly rings a bell @Brumhilda.

ArcaneWireless · 18/02/2024 21:08

I think someone may have heavily hinted she would be number one princess.

If only she’d only googled a bit more, she’d have known he was talking out of his hoop.

Still, she’ll have become accustomed to that by now.

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 21:09

There were several occasions on this trip where he looked behind at her as if to say "WTF" when she was staring at her feet, looking like she was scared to fall and had to go back and get her. This was on the reels of raw footage that they were running.

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 21:15

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 20:54

To be honest the more I have read and the more I have looked I can see a woman who thought this was all going to be a cakewalk but then realised that she wasn't going to be Number One Princess . She set out hopefully with a good if somewhat inflated opinion of herself. She ended up overstepping herself on occasions - trying to talk to people eg the Queen when it wasn't appropriate, not understanding protocol eg getting in a car ahead of the Queen and trying to push her way in front of others again out of line with protocol. It was a different culture and for someone who had grown up with this feeling of "never being good enough" she took it hard.

The situation as we know it now developed and she is in an arena where she can control her own narrative ( to a certain extent). We have still seen though that same awkward behaviour though on occasions eg the microphone, the pushing and the shoving. I detect this week in Canada a certain something from her when she sees Harry enjoying the Invictus Games and interacting with competitors. She doesn't like it when she is not the centre of attention.

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I picked up in that too. She absolutely hates being second fiddle . Makes you wonder how she coped being an actress really.

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 21:18

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 18/02/2024 20:54

Why are you sure of that when he said himself though that he didn’t - he went out to an engagement - and he was ashamed? Nothing in his own words that suggest he tried his best to be supportive or caring.

You can’t in his position cancel an engagement involving so many people because his wife was having a meltdown. That’s not how it works. He obviously felt a lot of guilt about it . I’m not defending him, Incant stand him now, but it wasn’t a simple matter of just saying ‘OK let’s not go’.

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 21:19

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 21:09

There were several occasions on this trip where he looked behind at her as if to say "WTF" when she was staring at her feet, looking like she was scared to fall and had to go back and get her. This was on the reels of raw footage that they were running.

Why does she STILL cling to him constantly too? It’s so childish and inappropriate.

wordler · 18/02/2024 21:19

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 21:15

I picked up in that too. She absolutely hates being second fiddle . Makes you wonder how she coped being an actress really.

That’s the culture clash - as an actress and an American you are sure that the next job will be the one which makes you, if you just work hard enough, put all your effort in, out maneuver the opposition then you can win.

Sixth on the call sheet this job, but will be the star of the next one.

Monarchies don’t work like that.

MrsFinkelstein · 18/02/2024 21:25

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 21:18

You can’t in his position cancel an engagement involving so many people because his wife was having a meltdown. That’s not how it works. He obviously felt a lot of guilt about it . I’m not defending him, Incant stand him now, but it wasn’t a simple matter of just saying ‘OK let’s not go’.

I would generally agree with this, but Harry did cancel his prearranged engagement to pay respect at the Royal Marine memorial service, to go to The Lion King premiere with Meghan where they tried to get Meghan voice-over work with Disney.

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 21:26

He didn’t just not turn up at the last minute though. That’s entirely different.

MrsFinkelstein · 18/02/2024 21:27

NigellaAwesome · 18/02/2024 17:45

Where was it announced that they wanted to be referred to as Sir & Ma'am?

I know I should look myself, but I don't want to give their website clicks and I can't bear reading the word salad that accompanies anything H&M do.

It was reported in the Mail and Express I think. It is a direct quote from a named source.

Harry wants to come back and ‘help’
Coronateachingagain · 18/02/2024 21:28

"I would generally agree with this, but Harry did cancel his prearranged engagement to pay respect at the Royal Marine memorial service, to go to The Lion King premiere with Meghan where they tried to get Meghan voice-over work with Disney."

Was that when he got recorded telling the Disney guy "do you know she does voiceovers, that's why we are here 😉"

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 18/02/2024 21:47

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 21:18

You can’t in his position cancel an engagement involving so many people because his wife was having a meltdown. That’s not how it works. He obviously felt a lot of guilt about it . I’m not defending him, Incant stand him now, but it wasn’t a simple matter of just saying ‘OK let’s not go’.

There is a middle ground between cancelling and just leaving her to it.

And he could have cancelled. It’s not something they ever want to do, but it can be done when necessary, as we’ve seen recently.

Ticketyboob · 18/02/2024 21:55

I wonder if Meghan had the opportunity to open up to her closest girl friends / mother once she was out of the UK/RF bubble when she was in NYC for her baby shower which was a few weeks after the Royal Albert Hall event? Or if she was also suffering there behind closed doors?

Lampslights · 18/02/2024 21:59

Ticketyboob · 18/02/2024 21:55

I wonder if Meghan had the opportunity to open up to her closest girl friends / mother once she was out of the UK/RF bubble when she was in NYC for her baby shower which was a few weeks after the Royal Albert Hall event? Or if she was also suffering there behind closed doors?

She doesn’t have any close female friends left I think and I don’t think many of the women there were “close “ in the first place, she’s dumped anyone who wasn’t useful to her,and anyone who was, has distanced themselves,

TitusGroaned · 18/02/2024 22:02

mrsmingleton · 18/02/2024 21:09

There were several occasions on this trip where he looked behind at her as if to say "WTF" when she was staring at her feet, looking like she was scared to fall and had to go back and get her. This was on the reels of raw footage that they were running.

I haven’t seen it, as in he was annoyed at her for looking scared?

Brumhilda · 18/02/2024 22:09

Devastatedandblindsided · 18/02/2024 21:15

I picked up in that too. She absolutely hates being second fiddle . Makes you wonder how she coped being an actress really.

She didn’t really cope, she could have had a much better career than she had.

elfies · 18/02/2024 22:27

Dear me , Is Megan a victim AGAIN , of Harry this time

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